Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

Christie has fun with "people on the internet"

http://gawker.com/chris-christie-on-obvious-hostage-video-i-wasnt-being-1762674155

Cruz has been mentioning it but I don't know what it refers to xp

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/trump-tape

okay i googled my way to some clarity. what a fucking world.

john cassidy theorized that they think trump, as a new york city real estate developer, has mob ties. he also theorized that if trump does, they're unlikely to appear in his tax returns

If I were the Mexican president, I would demand America build a wall to keep Americans in.

I missed why everyone hates Cory Booker.

old (2013) but still true

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/11/cory-booker-newark-neoliberal-egomaniac

not much on his

...Senate career cuz he really hasnt done much

Listening to trump speaking rn. It's just bragging.

re: booker, there's also this: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/05/19/schooled

and this: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/12/the-cory-booker-show/266271/

Basically people think he is mainly good at getting national headlines as a rising star while doing a shitty job actually listening to and serving his constituents

TRUMP: I RUINED MY CARPET ENDORSING ROMNEY

Am I correct that there is a concerted push declaring Trumpf unfit to be president?

I don't know if I hate Cory Booker but his schtick always made me skeptical of him.

he's just an empty suit full of ambition and cash from i-bankers across the river in manhattan

as one tweeter said, man, that Obama DOJ is on a partisan witch hunt!

The Justice Department has granted immunity to the former State Department staffer who worked on Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private email server, a sign the FBI investigation into possible criminal wrongdoing is progressing.

A senior U.S. law enforcement official said the FBI had secured the cooperation of Bryan Pagliano who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign before setting up the server in her New York home in 2009.

As the FBI looks to wrap up its investigation in the coming months, agents will likely want to interview Clinton and her senior aides about the decision to use a private server, how it was set up, and whether any of the participants knew they were sending classified information in emails, current and former officials said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-clinton-email-investigation-justice-department-grants-immunity-to-former-state-department-staffer/2016/03/02/e421e39e-e0a0-11e5-9c36-e1902f6b6571_story.html

Allegedly-smart money has been on Castro for a while - younger, diverser, more charismatic.

Not sure whether his last name will be a drag on the ticket or a hilarious tweaking of Cold War-era kneejerk anti-communists (who are, one presumes, either dead or Republican - or both - by now).

It's time for Senator Joe Hitler (D) to finally get his shot.

hillary clinton / ha ha clinton-dix

also this thread got off of bad elevator puns a few floors too early

You're just trying to push our buttons.

from what i understand the emails weren't classified top secret until after they were sent so i honestly do not get what part of this scandal is actually "real," and i suspect that the answer is "none of it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Yrhv33Zb8&list=RDh3Yrhv33Zb8

Richard M. Nixon ‏@dick_nixon
Why in the name of God am I watching Romney now?

The mob has pitchforks and scythes and this son of a bitch says "innovation dynamic."

mitt smacks his lips a lot

i was on a walk through the skyway and i had headphones on but i swear the crawl on CNN on a TV i walked by in the lobby said "Trump: I Ruined My Carpet Endorsing Romney"

???

i saw that too but i don't remember what it refers to. i do remember trump said that romney wanted his endorsement so bad that he could've told romney to get on his knees and he would've done it

don't look at the carpet trump drew something awful on it

lol

He's not a wonderful person, and he's got problems.

The thing about the alleged hypocrisy of the Republican establishment turning on Trump the Candidate when they loved Trump the Wealthy Donor is that it is not at all hypocritical or even surprising to think that a great donor would make a terrible presidential candidate. There's certainly the argument that you should only accept money from people whose views you agree with, and I understand where a hypocrisy charge could be leveled on those grounds, but even there people should be donating to the candidates whose platforms represent the policies they want to see in action rather that buying a plank on a candidate's platform with their money (nb I am not a naive college student and I know that this happens). Every party has donors that the candidates don't want to put in front of a camera because they are embarrassing/terrifying; I don't see why having a tv show should exempt Trump from that status.

from what i understand the emails weren't classified top secret until after they were sent so i honestly do not get what part of this scandal is actually "real," and i suspect that the answer is "none of it."

― Mordy, Thursday, March 3, 2016 3:11 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for me, the claim that a professional lawyer with security experience would think hosting your own email was a good (or at least uncontroversial) idea is so far-fetched that i pretty much assume there is something "real" to it.

among mitt romney's bons mots: "this reckless is... recklessness... in the extreme."

er i mean "this recklessness is recklessness... in the extreme."

(said w/ no gravitas whatsoever)

Am I correct that there is a concerted push declaring Trumpf unfit to be president?

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, March 3, 2016 2:44 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the first 3 stories on nytimes.com/index.html right now fwiw:

Romney Leads the Charge to Stop Trump: Front-Runner Is a ‘Fraud,’ He Says
Anti-Trump Faction in G.O.P. Is Seeking Third-Party Option
G.O.P. Foreign Policy Figures Denounce Trump

for me, the claim that a professional lawyer with security experience would think hosting your own email was a good (or at least uncontroversial) idea is so far-fetched that i pretty much assume there is something "real" to it.

i just assume (maybe wrongly) that email security doesn't mean the same thing to a 60yo in 2008 as it does to me. at this pt i need to see an actual bombshell and not just all these "implications" before i believe that there's a fire to go along w/ all the [v artificial looking] smoke.

wondering if this election cycle is gonna put the nail in the coffin of political TV ads as major campaign expenditures - seems like they're increasingly irrelevant. Have any of those TV ads - Bernie's Erica Garner ad, or any of Jeb's anti-Trump ads, or Cruz's bizarre comedy ads - done anything at all?

mitt seems to be getting heckled pretty hard starting at 12:30 in this video of his anti-trump speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iefXdC794I

Watching the Romney speech now. Someone may have pointed this out, but I'm not sure if the "Hinckley Institute" is the best backdrop.

for me, the claim that a professional lawyer with security experience would think hosting your own email was a good (or at least uncontroversial) idea is so far-fetched that i pretty much assume there is something "real" to it.

i just assume (maybe wrongly) that email security doesn't mean the same thing to a 60yo in 2008 as it does to me. at this pt i need to see an actual bombshell and not just all these "implications" before i believe that there's a fire to go along w/ all the [v artificial looking] smoke.

― Mordy, Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I assume Clinton hasn't practiced since the 80s and I dont think there was alot of email server related discovery going on when she was doing it.

has a single email even been disclosed from the investigation that would've benefited hillary by not appearing on official servers? the only emails i've seen so far are about gefilte fish and thanking sidney blumenthal for sending max's articles over.

they locked file cabinets in the 80s iirc

xp

she's familiar with the legal implications of a written record, not "email discovery" in particular

Not a bad speech, but I can't see it changing anything, except maybe having the reverse effect. Heard someone unironically call Romney "the de facto leader of the Republican Party" last night. That's laughable--he pretty much vanished after the last election, and it's not like there was a lot of positive feelings within his party to begin with.

also the 'yay we sold a shit-ton of bombers to the Saudis' email

the gop's problem is that he's the de facto leader of the republican party _and_ you're right about his profile

I'm not sure that there is one, but I just can't see it being him. Maybe Ryan at the moment, maybe still Limbaugh or someone like that. Maybe Donald Trump.

Sometimes the internet truly is a gift.

http://worldmeets.us/images/donald-trump-tronald-dump-tron-caption_pic.jpg

It's hard to tell which one is the head chicken when they're all running around headless.

i'm not sure y'all have a handle on what "de facto" means

it doesn't mean "de wanto"