Rolling 2016 Thread on Race

Yeah I just found it fascinating how the character feels sort of like an attempt to meet people halfway on that, and the subtle ways in which the "stage" dialect plays out that I probably wasn't picking up on. I mean on the immediate level I agree with you, best thing anyone can do is teach their children to negotiate the world they live in. But there's still a lot there about the power dynamics around race in America.

Anyone who isn't trying to teach their children fluency in the dialect of English spoken by the people who control the wealth in this country is a short-sighted idiot...(By which I mean there is a tangible difference between identifying AAVE as a legitimate English dialect that is not inferior to standard English and formally teaching it as the primary mode of communication to a segment of the population already facing system-driven barriers of entry to the highest echelons of power in this country.)

All true. (I'm not the biggest David Foster Wallace fan, but his writing on this subject - it's included in the essay collection A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again - was pretty amazing.) But, you know, 1973.

And also, if you're an educational show aimed mostly at urban black and latino kids (which apparently SS was when it started out), is it better to just have everyone on the show speak standard American English, or is it good to have AAVE-speaking characters for validation, and is having a character that's sort of in-between in a contrived way the worst of both worlds?

Anyone who isn't trying to teach their children fluency in the dialect of English spoken by the people who control the wealth in this country is a short-sighted idiot.

this is a righteous post

I thought about posting this on I Love Games but I don't actually love anything about this, which sucks:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc9585gW8AEisWq.jpg

I mean come the fuck on

wow

wow

(xpost)

what is that?

Avengers Academy, a time-wasting world building freemium mobile game in the vein of Simpsons: Tapped Out only with de-aged Avengers

btw these are great:

http://the-toast.net/2016/01/05/what-goes-through-your-mind-casual-racism/
http://the-toast.net/2016/03/08/on-race-good-intentions-benefit-of-the-doubt/

Does anyone else see anything subtly wrong with this ad?

http://i.imgur.com/VEosU1B.png

I am pretty used to "black people in service to white people" imagery at this point but why is he stooping?

Meanwhile, in more blatant "what the FUCK were you THINKING" news:

https://twitter.com/evanfmoore/status/708311829739675648

xp yeah it was the posture and the way it was shot that made it a little worse for me -- stooping, smiling-yet-faceless, literally below the white woman

OMFG. They seriously need to be boycotted out of business for that.

Reminded of an article I read about Atlantic City that described how in the pre-Casino years, the highlight of the trip for its middle class visitors was to hire a black person to push you down the boardwalk in a grown-up stroller.

xp, and I assume Old Lunch's was an xp about the hanging photo

yeah I mean I have not noticed decor like this in either of the Joe's Crab Shack restaurants I've been in in Boston and I don't get why anyone would think anything about that would be a good idea

that was on facebook trends earlier except they said "the photo appears to depict an execution"

which to me felt like an unwillingness to engage with the substance of the event

judging DJP for having visited multiple Joe's Crab Shack locations right now

all other things being equal, all restaurants deserve a chance

I mean, I'd had a good meal at this place before this incident from last year (which IIRC was on the 2015 thread about race):

http://verification.blogspot.com/2015/02/strange-fruit-in-friendly-toast.html

I learned about this time that the decor in this place included a golliwog that the owners chose to paint white when they received complaints about it rather than remove it.

interesting course of action

sorry, apparently they painted it green

MUCH BETTER

I don't care if you're black, white, green...

sad lol

I've never got the "whitewashing" of racial artifacts.

"See? See everybody? I just wanted a jockey boy of any color at the end of my driveway. Just so happened the first one was black, why did you all flip out?"

Ugh, someone I know on FB a few weeks ago posted some nonsense about how we have black lawn jockeys all wrong, that they were originally used to designate houses that were on the Underground Railroad, so really they're ANTI-racist. Am I correct in assuming that this is complete bullshit?

yes

http://www.snopes.com/jocko-lawn-jockey-racist/

haha that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

that was on facebook trends earlier except they said "the photo appears to depict an execution"

which to me felt like an unwillingness to engage with the substance of the event

― 龜, Friday, March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

http://i.imgur.com/JNbeS0f.png

call it for what it was

"Nooo, a burning cross in your yard is a just a friendly way of saying 'Welcome to the Neighborhood!' Like Christian fireworks!"

Joe's Crab Shack: Restaurant sorry to hear that you think photo depicts execution scene, but restaurant thinks maybe you need to ask yourself why you would think photo depicts execution scene, maybe you have some things you need to deal with before eating at Joe's Crab Shack

"execution" instead of "lynching" would be like calling a cross burning a "residency dispute"

The bigger point, regardless of whether this is an "execution" or a "lynching", is why you would think a picture of someone being killed would be appropriate decor for your chain restaurant; that alone shows massive disregard for life and is fucking racist

https://www.aclunc.org/blog/two-lawyers-walk-bar-and-get-kicked-out-being-black

I posted this on my Facebook wall and one of my friends from college, who currently lives in DC, works for NOAA, and has morphed into a conservative libertarian, responded with "Unreal. Especially as it's in California."

I feel like posting a bunch of stuff about Orange County on his wall now.

DO IT

or the new residents in San Francisco who keep calling the police on people who have lived on their block for 30 years but they view as suspicious

He clarified with "I figured this sort of thing was limited to the deep South."

He further clarified with "Rephrase: I would have hoped this was limited to the deep South."

I responded with "As long as we're hoping for things, I would have hoped that things like this didn't happen anymore."

OH btw re: the Joe's Crab Shack talk up thread, I realized very belatedly that I was thinking of Jasper White's Summer Shack. I've never been to Joe's Crab Shack.

With a name like that, I think you'd be forgiven for the mix-up.

so this thing.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/do-you-live-in-a-bubble-a-quiz-2/

I clicked through that thing the other day and again today and I realized that at no point does it ask anything that could be a definite indicator of race, only economic/social class

A lot of assumptions in those questions - like, I don't drink, therefore there is neither domestic nor imported beer in my refrigerator.

i kind of think that's more of a qualification question than a disqualification

i would ignore that it's by the same guy who wrote the racist book The Bell Curve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

hmm, not sure i would ignore that

lol at them qualifying him as "libertarian"

https://theawl.com/our-racist-dogs-dc83ca711b42#.9qyo16r3u

12 grafs retelling the plot of 'White Dog' is maybe not the ideal lede

one of the great sam fuller's last films, and -- iirc, i saw it in like 1987 -- a *very* sam fuller movie, meaning intermittently o_0 in amazing ways that literally no one else wd dare

sam's fuller brand of anti-racism was so goddamn weird, god bless him

Good Morricone soundtrack too!

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/12/what-on-earth-was-the-los-angeles-times-thinking

Well, as we are discovering day by day, every single historical issue about which we thought we expressed shame–genocide against Native Americans, slavery, Jim Crow, Japanese internment–are all now being actively defended by Trump supporters. And because the mantra of the media is that Both Sides Must Be Represented, these absolutely revolting viewpoints are being mainstreamed. This is deeply disturbing and as I have been saying, we are simply going to have to fight this at every juncture.

candidate for 2017 thread?

In the vein of the rap thread, it should be "Rolling 2017 thread on Pepes"

No it shouldn't.

remember "crack babies"? well

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/health/rise-in-infant-drug-dependence-in-us-is-felt-most-in-rural-areas.html