Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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I mean Bernie Sanders vs a GOP congress: "I demand free college tuition" would not be an effective "negotiating" technique -- or else what? However his speaking about it can help to shift the populace into a mindset of thinking "yes, actually college SHOULD be affordable," which can in turn lead to pressure on govt in the long run.

yes exactly. it doesn't necessarily mean an outright deal negotiation. it's about shifting expectations and discourse.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

I mean the clear distinction between Sanders and Trump in this sense is that Sanders says we'll need a political revolution if we want any of his proposals enacted, whereas Trump is more like "it'll happen because I'll say so." In either case, one is left with a yawning gap, a large question mark, between "promise" and fulfillment.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link

A Dumb Bro, No?

flopson, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link

what you had should have been yours forever, even if it's something that no longer exists. take it.

Even if it's something that *never* existed, like an America in which the women and the blacks were happy and knew their place.

brotato chip (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

“Sometimes we’ll do it for fun, and they’ll start screaming at me, ‘Do the swear-in! Do the swear-in!’” Trump said on “Today.” “If it’s offensive, if there’s anything wrong with it, I wouldn’t do it.”

Given the similarities to Hitler’s “Heil” salute, Trump was asked if he would stop doing the pledge.

“Well, I’ll certainly look into it,” Trump replied. “I mean, I’d like to find out that that’s true, but I’ll certainly look into it, because I don’t want to offend anybody. But I can tell you that it’s been amazingly received.”

where does Trump find all the time to look into all these things

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link

When thinking about how to get Mexico to build the wall.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link

Wait is he "looking into" the heil salute...? Like he's gonna find out what it was?

Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link

he also needed to look into the kkk

Treeship, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link

the heil thing, like everything else in his campaign, felt like a joke he was playing on his supporters

Treeship, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link

lol neil

Treeship, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link

I like how Cruz roped the slimiest Bush bro

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Margin supports Buchanan iirc

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Margin too

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Sanders is different from Trump because his agenda is a part of an established political philosophy and Donald Tenor Trump's platform is Donald Trump is great and will fix stuff

robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link

otoh trump comes from an established political philosophy too - and one that he purportedly has studied over the years

Mordy, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link

whoah I had no idea Trump had ROY FUCKING COHN lobby Es Meese to appoint Trump's sister to her judgeship.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link

i don't think sanders is anywhere near the existential threat as trump (tho i don't really think he's much of one either but clearly they are separated by leagues)

Mordy, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link

Cohn was Trump's lawyer!

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link

Roy Cohn: No. I have clout. Lots. I pick up that phone, dial 15 numbers, and guess who's on the other end of the line? In under five minutes, Henry.

Henry: The President.

Roy Cohn: Better — his wife.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:51 (eight years ago) link

just chatted with a local black small-business-owner here in Wisconsin who's voting Bernie

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

yes that post was my audition to replace thomas friedman at the new york times

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

where in wisconsin?

you know, i was reading about the oregon standoff folks today, and i'm surprised trump hasn't gone in on the feds over that stuff -- seems up his alley to float some conspiracy theories, gov't tyranny yadda yadda. wouldn't put it past him to glorify a bunch of militiamen.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

just chatted with a local black small-business-owner here in Wisconsin who's voting Bernie

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, March 8, 2016 6:56 PM

uh no dude this is Freddie B in disguise

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 00:07 (eight years ago) link

ratfucking the election

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 00:07 (eight years ago) link

ben carson currently w/ larger % of the vote than rubio

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:29 (eight years ago) link

(in MS)

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:30 (eight years ago) link

Clowning Rubio is one of the only true pleasures of this hideous election season

robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:30 (eight years ago) link

Sanders appears to be doing fairly well so far in Michigan, possible upset?

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:30 (eight years ago) link

I'm gonna miss him. He's the sort of guy to whom you gave noogies. He's the Sam Alito of GOP candidates.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:31 (eight years ago) link

Sanders appears to be doing fairly well so far in Michigan, possible upset?

― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles),

A few counties don't close until 9 p.m.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:31 (eight years ago) link

hillary campaign was managing expectations today

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:31 (eight years ago) link

not much reporting from detroit yet:

http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/dem/president/michigan/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:33 (eight years ago) link

if wayne goes like macomb then she'll take the state no problem

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:33 (eight years ago) link

he'll?

flopson, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:36 (eight years ago) link

trump is over 50% in MS (early but still terrifying)

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:37 (eight years ago) link

he has assembled large piles of trump water, wine and beef on the stage where he's due to speak

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:42 (eight years ago) link

is that his rescue package for flint

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:50 (eight years ago) link

Oh he's got a 'rescue package' for them awrite

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:52 (eight years ago) link

"DON-DAY E-STA MARCO?"
MSNBC bro just now

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link

is that his rescue package for flint

― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries

can they shower or drink meat

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link

they can shower in trump wine and use the meat to build shelter

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link

this has gotta be little marco's last night

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:01 (eight years ago) link

trump is over 50% in MS (early but still terrifying)

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 8, 2016 7:37 PM (16 minutes ago)

Wish I could say I was surprised.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:03 (eight years ago) link

He's the sort of guy to whom you gave noogies.

^word for word what I told a friend two weeks ago

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:06 (eight years ago) link

i know detroit hasn't reported in yet so that will change things pretty dramatically, but bernie's up 51-48 in MI so far. polls had hillary up by a wide margin so this is kind of surprising.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:08 (eight years ago) link

yeah who knows whether it'll hold but clearly the polls were off on the dem side

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:11 (eight years ago) link

I'm curious: what sort-of candidate could the ILX collective get behind? The only person I can imagine is des Esseintes from À rebours.

larry appleton, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:12 (eight years ago) link

this has gotta be little marco's last night

― k3vin k., Tuesday, March 8, 2016 9:01 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if he comes in below the threshold to get _any_ delegates in MI or MS then i guess it's not out of the question that he could go before florida

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:14 (eight years ago) link

clearly the polls were off

Or partly late campaigning payoff?

timellison, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:14 (eight years ago) link


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