Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

Also I have created an autosubstitute where "new new deal" is replaced by "bag of rotting assholes"

The compromise of a Hilary when I needed the fire of a sanders sorry jjj I'm voting strongo in 16

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdKGvYgUkAA0cG_.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dWMIuipn_c

Remember when Howard Dean was railroaded out of the 2004 Dem primaries for acting 1000x more dignified than this? C'mon, biased liberal media, do that thing you do.

I've been reading (slowly) "Dark Money," and it's proven an ironic backdrop to the current campaign season, in that the GOP candidates with the most money and/or libertarian cred got knocked out early, and the Democrat with the tightest ties to money has been neck and neck with the grassroots guys. I don't know if the ongoing Koch bros. charm offensive has gotten in the way of their evil meddling, but it seems like these conservative foundations don't have a real voice in this race.

the coda to Dark Money is that the Kochs are horrified Trump's gonna be the nominee.

I guess if there's one heartening takeaway from Trump's ascendancy it's learning that shadowy billionaires don't have quite as much control over the puppet show as they'd like to think they do.

fortunately heartless millionaires have state legislatures and assemblies with which to play.

C'mon, biased liberal media, do that thing you do.

Bern still scariest to WaPo and the like

Kochs, et al. have done just fine for 7+ years without one of their guys in the White House. in fact, things like ACA and climate change have been a boon to whipping up donor-class outrage and subsequent spending.

Paglia angling for that VP spot

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/10/i_was_wrong_about_donald_trump_camille_paglia_on_the_gop_front_runners_refreshing_candor_and_his_impetuousness_too/

Wd love to see how she'd redecorate the Senate chamber

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/10/i_was_wrong_about_donald_trump_camille_paglia_on_the_gop_front_runners_refreshing_candor_and_his_impetuousness_too/

― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles)

"I read with some glee that Doanld Trump had indeed, in his words, 'taken a crap' on a Mexican immigrant. Let me say well done! I admire when our leaders keep their promises! Too often we elect empty suits uttering scripted lines. In addition, Trump's action reminds me of pagan rituals associated with Dionysian cults."

If Trump wins the White House, that no-holds-barred video will go down in history as “the shot heard round the world,” Ralph Waldo Emerson’s phrase for the first salvo of the American Revolution by rural insurgents at Concord. (How many words is this yet?)

Paglia's quotes increasingly remind me of monkeys with typewriters

so i feel like maybe i missed out on some time in the past when paglia was good because i always kinda had this impression she was a really respected thinker etc etc

but in general everything i've read my her (and this is let's say mostly ILX link in the last 10 years) has been like hot garbage, did she used to be better?

jesus fucking chris paglia go away

"so i feel like maybe i missed out on some time in the past when paglia was good because i always kinda had this impression she was a really respected thinker etc etc"

I think she had some respect when sexual personae first came out but she became tiresome almost immediately after that

But Trump is a workaholic who doesn’t drink and who has an interesting penchant for sophisticated, strong-willed European women.

She's got me convinced!

"His apartment has many leather-bound books and smells of mahogany."

I'm pretty sure Paglia is Italian for Palin. Makes you think....

Kinda shocked she can relate to a candid buffoon.

That said, I do think Trump's lack of a censor btwn brain and mouth could be a political advantage in "debates" vs HRC, who generally can't fake spontaneity in any way, flattering or not.

I was reading the quotes excerpted here thinking "surely this is a satirical piece, why are people taking it seriously" and then I started reading the actual piece and hoo boy

My quote was fiction.

yeah but the others weren't

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H66X68Y4L._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Must admit I had that book in college. She's surfin' the wave of the NINETIES! Gleefully snickering iconoclasms galore!

And every sentence is in the first person: I responded enthusiastically to this, I abhorred that, this art repels me, this art validates who I am, this thinker is insufficiently aligned with me, that thinker is excessively interested in me, me, me.

I'm fine with first person - I absolutely hate it when cultural critics (or any other type of essayist) use "we" - as in, "Why We All Love Bruce Springsteen." My instantaneous reaction is "Fuck you, I'm not part of your 'we.'" Saying "I" is definitely preferable.

Yes but it can be overdone. I have read quite a lot of art criticism, and usually there are at least some sentences that discuss the work at hand. This is a painting my Berthe Morisot, here are some things about that painting. Here is a record by Magnetic Fields, and here are some things that are on the record. This movie is about some people moving about in rooms and saying things to each other.

But just as you can't spell CAMILLE PAGLIA without ME I, almost everything is "When I first saw X, I responded like Y, because clearly they had read my essays on Z."

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/a-brief-autobiography-of-camille-paglia-as-told-through-introductory-appositive-phrases-in-her-online-column

The godmother of #slatepitches

in other news
https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/707910779698216960

xpost OMG I don't think I'd seen that McSweeney, it makes my lame-ass attempted Pagliaparodies worse than redundant. Almost impossible to top "As an Amazon with the brain of a pre-Stonewall gay man, I..."

pretty sure that was randy meisner who threw that sucker-punch

as Perrin put it, "Oliver North: Feminist."

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/10/hillary-clinton-stalwart-friend-of-worlds-worst-despots-attacks-sanders-latin-american-activism/

At this rate, it shouldn't be more than a month or so until we get to hear Trump explain that his rebranded swastika isn't a swastika at all but a 'loyalty trademark' or something.

https://twitter.com/labuzamovies/status/707777046429065216

Kevin Williamson on Paglia:

She is also, unhappily, exactly right about Ted Cruz’s stage presence:

I mean that she is correct about the impression Cruz sometimes gives, not about the substance. The substance of Ted Cruz is his constitutional scholarship, his quick mind, and his deep patriotism. The substance of Donald Trump is some sort of howling psychosis playing itself out in public for ends that Sigmund Freud himself would hesitate to consider. The problem is that voters are not reliably all that good at distinguishing impressions from substance. Camille Paglia is a scholar of surfaces. Let us hope that the electorate is not entirely out of its depth.

I found it improbable if not impossible that Trump could survive his klutz-o-rama cascade of foot-in-mouth flubs, from carelessly categorizing Mexican immigrants as rapists to hallucinating about “thousands’ of Muslims cheering the fall of the twin towers from the mean streets of New Jersey.

whoops!

pretty sure paglia dresses up in a nazi uniform to get off

so what?

#notallnazifetishists

paglia is dumb, and she always has been.

Lol mordy

Paglia is so genuinely stupid it's just dazzling

In high school, I would say I was a moderate to liberal Democrat. It was an article of faith among my set that US intervention in Central America was not only strategically unwise but also morally unsound. Still reeling from Vietnam, nauseated over the barbarity of the Contras and the Salvadoran death squads, it didn’t take much in the way of liberal sympathy or imagination to think that anything the US did in Nicaragua, Guatemala, or El Salvador—short of getting the hell out of there—would be a disaster for the peoples of those nations.

Again, this was a position that was widely shared among mainstream liberals and Democrats. I just looked up the 1982 House vote on the Boland Amendment, which prohibited all military aid to the Contras, and it was 243 in favor, 171 against. Which means that some portion of moderates also adopted this anti-interventionist position.

The only reason Clinton and her supporters on Twitter can so reflexively attack Sanders over this issue—not his support for the Sandinistas or Castro, but his opposition to US intervention—is that, thanks to two decades of liberal support for regime change and humanitarian intervention, the whole discourse of liberal anti-interventionism has practically disappeared from the scene. Today, the only solid and reliable anti-interventionists you can find are either left-wing anti-imperialists, paleo- or other brands of conservative at outlets like The American Conservative, or an ever narrowing circle of IR realists like Steve Walt.

http://coreyrobin.com/2016/03/10/liberalism-and-the-millennials/

Paglia is great, always a riot.

so corey robin's pt is that this version of liberalism cannot be reasoned/negotiated with, but in the past it could. of course in the past i'm pretty sure the hard left was making similar arguments. honestly i've gotten to the pt where i think reformers and revolutionaries are not allies and the latter are trying to destroy anything good and should probably be kept as far away from the levers of power as possible. nb i don't think bernie is a revolutionary or on the hard left. he's a reformer lib.

When they think liberal, they think of the Clintons and their allies, who are not only terrible on the issue of US power around the world, but also terrible on the question of economic justice and equality at home. They have no memory of a generation of left liberals who fought firmly for labor unions, who pushed hard for universal health care, public housing, and the like. They have no memory of a young Arthur Schlesinger rejecting Communism but nevertheless affirming that “class conflict is essential if freedom is to be preserved, because it is the only barrier against class domination.”

That Schlesinger sentence confused me. He was a liberal who supported anti-communist activity, covert or overt.

he's an idiot. i mean not just based on this, but also yes based on this.