Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

Oh hey Ben Carson's quest to counsel Christian voters and continue to rake in money has lead him to the conclusion that endorsing Donald Trump is the way forward.

now envisioning Putin paying Carson to stab President Trump to death following some policy dispute

goole I answered your question in my own copy-pasting of that very sentence upthread!

in other news:

https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/708120011039068160

tracer this thread is for posting the same clip half a dozen times w/o reading, have you learned nothing this season

be sure to re-post it on next month's thread

holy shit at that tweet video shakey just posted.
cruz's pastor is a straight up psychopathic zealot

I thought we'd all seen Cruz's pastor by now; footage of him has certainly circulated through the news cycle.

this guy is literally calling for the death of homosexuals and then saying he's not afraid to die for his beliefs only moments before introducing ted cruz and ppl were worried about reverend wright???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pLobWHDdVw
"IT'S NOT A GAY TIME! This is, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WITH THE SORES, THE GAPING SORES! THE SORES THAT ARE PUS-SY AND GROSS! AND PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND CARVING HAPPY FACES ON THE SORES! That's not a nice thing to do! DON'T YOU DARE CARVE HAPPY FACES ON OPEN, PUS-SY SORES! DON'T YOU EVER DO THAT, DON'T YOU EVER DO THAT, I TELL YOU DON'T DO IT! Sackcloth and ashes, this is what America needs. America needs to hear the message... we are messed up."

I thought we'd all seen Cruz's pastor by now

this is a different guy from the one who converted his dad, afaict

i've never seen this guy before; he's a piece of work.

ts: "they eat the poopoo" vs "the people with the sores that are pus-sy and gross"

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-the-anti-gay-pastor.html?_r=0
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-leandro/arrest-pastor-kevin-swans_b_8534488.html
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ted-cruz-boasts-about-endorsement-from-anti-gay-pastor-and-convicted-stalker/
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cruz-huckabee-and-jindal-will-join-pastor-who-wants-gays-put-death

I think I saw this mentioned on Inside Edition?

hm, so a little reading suggests this is not "Cruz's pastor" but some fuckhead that Cruz happily cosigned and this is old news
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-the-anti-gay-pastor.html

beat me to it.

it bears repeating that Cruz is an amoral bastard tho, especially in the face of #anybodybuttrump

Anybody Butt Rump

a movement we can all get behind

Yet a quick web search will turn up Mr. Swanson’s references to the demonic power of “the homosexual Borg,” the unmitigated evil of Harry Potter and the Disney character Princess Elsa’s lesbian agenda.

wait what's this about the borg, my star trek fandom is not strong but

it's a tennis diss

wtf is that pastor even talking about, "carving happy faces on the sores"?

it bears repeating that Cruz is an amoral bastard tho, especially in the face of #anybodybuttrump

― ulysses, Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He does have a weird face, after all.

I want to walk that joke back, I should have thought more than 5 seconds before posting it

lol

http://barbwire.com/2015/04/02/0900-indiana-meets-the-big-gay-borg/

Update: The revised language has now been released, and it’s even worse than we thought. The new language forces Christian bakers to bake cakes in violation of their faith and conscience.

Baker Lives Matter

I may never read a sentence more glorious than "The new language forces Christian bakers to bake cakes in violation of their faith and conscience," in the rest of my lifetime.

wtf is that pastor even talking about, "carving happy faces on the sores"?

― Treeship, Friday, March 11, 2016 1:01 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's saying there's gross gay stuff happening that are sores in america/culture and people are trying to forcefully make it seem like something to be happy about?

hey man, you bake the cakes, what we do with them once they leave your store is our own business

"I'd like a cake that says, 'THIS BAKER SUPPORTS SATAN' and the law says you have to do it!"

oh it's a metaphor xp

All kidding aside, whether or not it was intended as such by the Star Trek writers, the Borg collective is a chillingly appropriate metaphor for Cultural Marxism, the driving force of the LGBT movement. What we know as “political correctness” is simply the “group-think” of the Marxist hive mind.

Ulster (where else?) beat you to it.

So, America, is resistance to the LGBT Borg futile? Marxist regimes have been overthrown before. (And even Jon-Luc Picard eventually defeated his Borg opponents). I guess the outcome of this battle depends on how much we the not-yet-assimilated want to avoid becoming mindless slaves to the Collective.

maybe they missed the episodes where there were plenty of people the borg had no interest in assimilating

any body butt rump

"in closing, i'd like to say that i really like star trek and i have no idea how much we as a nation want to avoid becoming mindless slaves. Also, thanks to Janet for bringing her famous date-nut bread; it's $1.25 a slice and all proceeds go toward fighting the Collective. It's gluten free so please buy some on your way out. See you next Woden's Day."

Jesus never would have given baked goods to someone he didn't like...

oh wait.....

i think there was something called The Last Supper....?

oh yeah, Jesus comes out and say "Someone here will betray me, hey Judas, you want the first piece of bread?"

so yeah Jesus himself gives bread to somebody he knows will betray him. and he still does it.

i guess no place for forgiveness in modern "Left Behind" style Christianity.

you are bad at reading the bible

cool plz point out how i am bad at it rather than just saying "you are bad at it". cos i can just throw that back at you and we'll be here all day.

Judas received the sop in John 13. i'm curious as to how else you read that.

I think most if not all of what I’m about to say is obvious to folks itt, so don’t take it as me trying to “reveal” anything. I just need to register a response to what I see as a deafening silence in the msm today.

So the big post-debate headline seems to be that Decorum Has Been Restored. Last night too everyone was gushing afterward about how disciplined everyone was, how restrained Trump was, and how substantive a debate the moderators orchestrated.

Meanwhile, the Great Whitewashing of racially-charged mob violence slips by unnoticed. Not a peep about the fact that nobody has dared directly confront Trump on his promotion of violence (on the same night at Fayetteville he had pined for the good old days when they used to treat protesters “very, very rough” so they wouldn’t come back so easily).

Jake Tapper did bring up the issue, but in the blandest terms. He distanced himself from it (attributing the critique to Clinton) and cast it as a matter of “tone.”

He then let Trump get away with an answer that pretty much justified the violence (the beautiful passion of my supporters; we have some protesters who are bad dudes).

Tapper then asked Cruz about whether he was concerned that “these kind of scenes” potentially hurt the GOP for the general election (again: no ethical import, it’s only a matter of electability). Cruz blurted out one quick remark about how “we need to show respect to the people” because they’re the ones “we’re working for” and (yes, Ted?...) well, we’ve had a President who for the past seven years who has acted like an Emperor above the law etc. Cruz went on to blather about how Trump asks his people to pledge their support to him but he’s got it backward, etc,

Tapper: Thank you, senator.

Now it’s Kasich’s turn: Governor Kasich, do you worry about the scenes of violence at some of these rallies affecting the Republican party's chances in November? Kasich: (I’ll paraphrase, bc running out of time): well I’m worried about violence at rallies period. But you know what Jake, I think people are worred, they’re worried about their jobs, they’re worried about trade deals. But the thing is we need to unite around these issues not divide.

Tapper: Thank you governor.

Senator Rubio? I know you want to say something.

Rubio goes on to talk about how he’s concerned about violence in general in this society and btw the first people that are facing that violence are our law enforcement officers. Of course people are angry, every institution in America has been failing us for the better part of 20 years or 30 years. Leadership is about using the anger to motivate us, not to define us. Then anecdote about his grandfather born in 1899 and the man on the moon and *bell rings* Americans can do anything and our principles etc.

Thank you senator. *applause*

Onto the next question (“The math suggests that it possible that not one of you will reach the magic number of 1,237 delegates before the Republican convention, which would mean a contested convention….”).

How restrained. How civilized. All presidential candidates on a debate stage are allowed to justify and tacitly enable assaults on (mostly black) protestors, and the next day we all congratulate them because they didn’t make dick jokes. Got it.

otm

Judas received the sop in John 13. i'm curious as to how else you read that.

this isn't the thread for it but you have a penchant for removing biblical things from context (as displayed on other Xtianity-specific threads). There's loads of instances of Jesus being a forgiving sort in the NT, including his treatment of Judas, but that particular passage is mostly irrelevant to the (obviously batshit insane) pastor's point.

revive some other thread if you really want to argue about this

xp

in other news:

https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/708120011039068160

― Οὖτις, Friday, March 11, 2016 12:28 PM (59 minutes ago)

i mean...leaving aside the whole "kill the gays" thing, which is pretty bad

what the fuck is up with this dude's voice/stage presence?

haha yeah he is def unhinged, all that arm-flapping, leaping about the stage. altho tbf that's not that unusual for tent-revival-style preachers

i know krugman is becoming unpopular since he's not on the bernie train but i'm glad he is giving free trade v. protectionism a close look:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/opinion/trade-and-tribulation.html

between this and other reading i've done what seems to be true so far is that a. free trade has minimal benefits and minimal drawbacks, b. the link between free trade agreements and job loss are overblown (outsourcing is more impacted by other things than free trade agreements - cf china where lots of manufacturing has gone even tho we don't have an agreement with them), c. that there may be climate change + credibility repercussions for not enacting said agreements / reneging on old ones. i'm not 100% sure about any of this but it does seem a little bit like the case against free trade is a little overstated culturally?

collardio on fire