Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

how can anyone do "very effective low key advocacy" that "penetrates the public conscience."

if you're going to say nice bullshit tho why bring up something that no reagan fans will care about and that is false? she couldn't find anything else w/ slightly more reality than the reagans and HIV? she should've praised nancy for her excellent seance skillz.

if i may rephrase that reactionary closet fag Ed Koch, gays would be craaaaazy to vote for Clinton

in my dream world hillary just talked for a solid 40 mins on astrology

tbf (and tbf there is no reason tbf) this sounded like an off-the-cuff remark to me rather than a prepared statement.
like she had read a piece in the paper a few days ago about how nancy doesn't deserve to be held in high esteem because of the way she helped contribute to the mass ignorance and denial around HIV in the eighties and HRC just kinda reflexively pushed back

if you're going to say nice bullshit tho why bring up something that no reagan fans will care about and that is false

^^^

"now one thing people don't know about nancy is that she could summon pretty much anyone from the dead."

idk Maybe Nancy whispered "gays" in Ambassador Gromyko's ear instead of Ronnie's

just praise her for her fashion sense or hair or devotion to her husband or something

xp

the degree of distrust i take inherent from anyone who says "it may be hard for your viewers to remember" on television
it's a dog whistle that says "I WILL BE VOICING MY OWN OPINIONS AS HISTORY FROM THIS POINT ON"

when you see the video, the part where she says "and you know that too is something that I really appreciate with her" is clearly a moment where a little voice in her head says "uh oh, i think i just said some total bullshit, i should probably wrap this up"

let's just throw some oxymoronic word salad about very effective low key advocacy and get back to the limo

in more mundane pandering, nice move, Marco:

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/708328767366832128

Part of me thinks that as a person who has spent most of her life in politics Hillary Clinton can say nothing without ridiculous warning lights blinking in head and can only speak in the slovenly language of non-responsibility and therefore should be cut some slack but the rest of me wants to throw her off a cliff.

...the inflation-adjusted annual median household income in Michigan fell by about $14,000 a year — down to about $52,000 — from 1999 to 2014.

How could this be true? Wouldn't that mean the average family income in 1999 was $27,000 in today's dollars?

Sorry, $277,000 per year.

as it may be hard for our readers to remember, let's meet a few of those men who benefited from Nancy's very effective low key advocacy and continue to reap the rewards of the hard fought progress her husband made those many years ago
http://projects.sfchronicle.com/2016/living-with-aids/story/

It's hard to mock up a possible apology... "Alzheimers! I meant Alzheimers."

Michigan's median family income in 1999 according to census data was $44,667 unadjusted ($63,519.37 adjusted to 2016)

census data: https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/historical/state/state1.html
inflation calculator: http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

Sorry, $277,000 per year.

― nickn

no that would be per year but yes that sentence was worded terribly,she just meant to say it dropped 14,000 in total

or 11-12k w djp's numbers

yeah I assume different inflation calculators use slightly different formulae, which is why I provided a link to the one I used

really curious whether hillary/her surrogates will apologize, or say 'context' or lash out at sanders somehow or double down

'conversation' is certainly one of her phrases but jfc

yea that was an astonishingly full-of-shit statement from hrc

"The thing people may not remember about the Reagans, and especially Nancy, is that they were six-winged seraphim descended from Heaven and given human for to guide a troubled nation through a dark, turbulent time. May their names be magnified in The Father's light. Amen."

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/113130_angelsinamerica3_slide.jpg

Nancy, 1982

from ACT-UP's page:

I told one of my students that the most memorable Reagan AIDS moment for me was at the 1986 centenary rededication of the Statue of Liberty. The Reagans were there sitting next to French President Francois Mitterand and his wife, Danielle. Bob Hope was on stage entertaining the all-star audience. In the middle of a series of one-liners Hope quipped, "I just heard that the Statue of Liberty has AIDS but she doesn't know if she got it from the mouth of the Hudson or the Staten Island Fairy." As the television camera panned the audience, the Mitterands looked appalled. The Reagans were laughing. By the end of 1989 and the Reagan years, 115,786 women and men had been diagnosed with AIDS in the United States, and more than 70,000 of them had died.

oh that bob hope, what a kidder, always helping get the word out

Asked about Clinton’s comments, the head of the nation’s largest LGBT rights organization — which has endorsed Clinton — avoided criticizing Clinton directly.

“While I respect her advocacy in other areas including stem cell and Parkinson’s research, Nancy Reagan was, sadly, no hero in the fight against HIV/AIDS,” Human Rights Campaign president Chad Griffin told BuzzFeed News.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/clinton-praises-reagans-for-starting-a-national-conversation#.rn2dQdqMn

checked some of the pro-clinton twitter ppl, all v negative about this: michael cohen, marcotte.

i tried to look up sady doyle but i see that i am blocked! i don't think i've ever tweeted at her. i wonder if i've ended up in some 'follows too much weird left twitter' block bot

#Millennials4Hillary
‏@StillWithHer

One clumsy quote does not undo a lifetime of work to prevent HIV/AIDS #ImWithHer

wow, she has a twitter just to act as an apologist?

fyi, Sady has not tweeted in the last 3 hours

I cant lose my shit over trying to say something nice about someone at their goddamn funeral, sorry

apparently, I can

COOKIES FOR EVERYONE

it's just dumb as hell and if the campaign has any sense she'll apologize for it (and strongly - actually condemn nancy's lack of action)

a funeral where the mourners should all have been fecal-sprayed by helicopter

I like the sentiment but I don't think helicopters can poop

It's what they call an unforced error. There are a million easy nice things she could have said. She just happened to say the wrong thing.

I would've supplied all the shit.

sorry jings, you don't do a historical Stalinist rewrite of a genocide to be nice. Say "she'll be missed" and fuck off.

I cant lose my shit over trying to say something nice about someone at their goddamn funeral, sorry

― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, March 11, 2016

tbf im getting exhausted defending hillary

lol

Wow what an insane statement.

the mind boggles

AFAIC, Hillary is not much more than the least revolting of the twisted homunculi currently running for president (Bernie excluded but, y'know, so no gonna happen).

Like did the person who wrote that hate her? I can't fathom the delusional and ahistorical mind who put that sentence together and didn't think "well this is sure to cause an issue."

It's like praising Woodrow Wilson's strong civil rights record or something.

it was extemporaneous pandering, not a speech

and has been pointed out, w/ no political upside