Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

there is this guy who is running for PA Senate seat dem primary:
http://www.thenation.com/article/this-tattooed-head-shaven-straight-talking-mayor-wants-to-be-the-next-senator-from-pennsylvania/

idk maybe it's just my neighborhood but it seems like ppl are still pretty complacent about local politics. maybe it'll heat up closer to the election.

there's not gonna be much of it this cycle because people are excited about bernie. you remember how it was in 2008. obama won and disappeared into the white house, taking his momentum with him; bernie will not. this is forced optimism of course haha but conditions are not unfavorable to it.

i think you're right Mordy. here's an article about nobody wanting to run in PA: http://www.pennlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/02/public_outrage_over_budget_deb.html

i saw a good campaign video from fetterman not too long ago. i think he announced his candidacy from the roof his house. i didn't realize he was originally from york. it's crazy the political weight that's come from york lately: the Gov, the Auditor General, and reigning House dickhe@d Sen. W@gn3r

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obama won and disappeared into the white house, taking his momentum with him; bernie will not.

this is kinda what concerns me about bernie is he's been doing this for 30 years and until this election he's built nothing nationally. it's not necessarily his fault that's a lot to ask from one person but it does kinda show how impotent the left has been over the last few decades that we have an election where the republicans are possibly the weakest they've ever been and no one is like ok let's get a list of every flippable seat in the country and see what we can organize.

i have to read more about fetterman, i don't think dems should run sestak again that would be a mistake xp

Someone Will Die

I'm a bit fatigued thinking about enduring several more months of this. the Romney-Obama election year was exhausting, and all we had then was a privileged Mormon idiot that occasionally acted like a dick. this is a goon-puppeteer who seems beyond reproach to his barely-ambulatory stooges. and moreso, being in a bit of a backwards state, there are a lot of these idiots here.

Do I have to be worried now that I'm going to have a la carte dental work done to me in the street if I flip off a Trump supporter? I mean it's not like it was any big secret that human garbage exists, and on one hand I am glad these people are being exposed so that otherwise unknowing people can more easily identify who they should ignore. But part of me was also happier pretending they didn't exist.

I think that's part of the reason I dread a Trump campaign so much. Not that I'm afraid he'll win. But just the exhaustion of dealing with him through November. True, his base isn't going away even if he does, but he's kind of like the mothership in that when he dies, they'll probably return to their holes for a little while. Until the next one shows up.

the GOP taking the nom from him by any means nec could still happen, im thinking 30-40% likely

Were you ever guaranteed a high five from flipping someone off

I mean.

no, but I've also never been made a paraplegic for doing it either.

my point being his goons respond rabidly to often innocuous behavior from Trump protesters like a dog let off a leash.

fortunately haven't seen it in my town lately, but did have several friends report back some ugly stories from the local rally that was here last week.

thankfully, more of the "they were harassing assholes" variety and not the Chicago/Cleveland variety.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12670776_992901257450931_3541445652712028491_n.png?oh=c28e0c79e4efd114088cea0ee0750ed0&oe=575638D1

I watched Laura Poitras's documentary CitizenFour last night for the first time.

It throws a very horrific sidelight on what a Trump presidency could mean. As Snowden remarks near the beginning of the film, if administrative policy is the only safeguard against using the NSA against every US citizen, then the instant those policies change, the entire apparatus of the world's most oppressive totalitarianism is sitting there, ready and waiting.

If you haven't yet seen this, get a copy and watch it.

why does trump think it was bernie supporters at his rally? is it easier to threaten a jewish guy than a woman?

― rap is dad (it's a boy!), 13. marts 2016 17:59 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A lot of the stories from protestors include them wearing Sanders clothing, and descriptions of the troubles include the protestors yelling 'feel the bern' and 'sanders sanders' etc. Also, it's largely young people. Of course, that doesn't mean that the Sanders campaign is organizing it or anything (but I'd still call it a feather in the cap for the Sanders supporters, and an indication that they care about a lot more than just their candidate)

Sanders has explicity said there's no 'revolution' possible if he's the fulcrum

and also people think it was Sanders' supporters because that's the narrative needed to make it their fault for getting beat up

this is kinda what concerns me about bernie is he's been doing this for 30 years and until this election he's built nothing nationally.

i don't even really mean that bernie will continue as a national leader, just that the people he's fired up won't consider themselves satisfied at the end of this campaign.

nothing national except this run for president of the nation

Yes Adam that's what I said

i'm on yr side whether it comes to it or not neanderthal but yeah along deems' lines i'm not sure i've ever flipped off a stranger without preparing for violence, so the answer to your question in this climate is definitely yes

is that stryper

yes

Anyone with drunk revanchist relatives is ready for fists at 5 at any moment.

Xpost ok then a scenario where a simple disagreement spills over into something violent. Say someone walks by with a Bernie shirt for instance

Doesn't have to be a middle finger.

Lol alfred

iirc florida provides plenty of reasons to avoid flipping people off, trump or no trump

Boehner endorses Kasich

That should energize the base

https://twitter.com/EliBWatkins/status/709100267304828928

I think that particular pic is very unfair to Michael Sweet who while he is slightly odd in appearance (esp because of an over-application of makeup) is nowhere near as freaky looking as Ted Cruz.

Sanders began a CNN town hall by calling Trump a pathological liar. Good for him--about time somebody did. (Will probably bail on this soon.)

A member of my wife's doctoral thesis committee is seated front row and just to Bernie's left on stage right now. So bizarre.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489415/Mike-Tyson-empathizes-Trump-says-hatred-innately-American.html

@ggreenwald Glenn Greenwald Retweeted David Chalian
I've never seen a photo that begs more for a caption contest. Lots of good suggestions already in the replies

https://twitter.com/DavidChalian/status/709200276226449408

Jesus. Caption contest? That could be a campaign crippler if she's not careful. And man, she's really not ...

http://i67.tinypic.com/2lnva5v.jpg

Oddly enough, the Reagan funeral was directed by Dario Argento.

Sanders the comedian is getting sharper--he had this perfectly timed one-minute answer tonight linking trade pacts to Trump's wall.

if "fraternizing with the enemy" at a fucking FUNERAL makes a person unfit to rule in the eyes of the people these days, america is completely screwed.

Especially a funeral she was going to as a former first lady.

i keep having this v risky thought that the only chance a person like bernie sanders would ever conceivably have of accessing the power of the presidency would be in an election against an incompetent, buffoonish villain like trump

but by the same token, the only chance that an incompetent, buffoonish villain like trump would ever conceivably have of accessing the power of the presidency would be in an election against a socialist senator from vermont

xp Her husband survived saying nice things about Nixon at his funeral - she'll be fine.

but there's a self-destructive part of me that wants it, like in the 9th inning of a deciding game, slugger vs fireballer, don't throw me a curve you fucker just bring the heat, power vs power, let's see who's got it

Tracer otm (from a safe vantage point)

Since when is Hil Bush's enemy? His ally vs those WMDs!

@MazMHussain
Establishment American politics is a lot like WWF, everyone just pretending to oppose each other onstage.

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2014/September/140909/1D274906737364-today-bush-clinton-140909-01.today-inline-large.jpg

but shove the sanctimony, rushomancy

Xpost Not the act, just the picture. Not unlike the picture of her and Bill with Trump. Context hardly matters, just visceral impact.

the only chance that an incompetent, buffoonish villain like trump would ever conceivably have of accessing the power of the presidency would be in an election against a socialist senator from vermont

I can conceive it if his opponent is the most hated person in the Democratic party.

But kudos on the fearful mental gymnastics, that's Chelsea Clinton's best chance for the 2040 Waterworld crown.