Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

oh so it's Pelosi Democrats who are the trouble now

we are all about to waste our time with much more insane shit thrown in our faces all summer Morbs

Soon we'll be needing to worry about Hillary's supporters' well-being. Hard to picture them matching the Trumpiacs in a brawl.

trump is onstage with the guy who assaulted that reporter?

Actually it's easy to picture them in a brawl, it's definitely going to happen. Stay away from Trumpiacs, Daria.

xpost That's his main campaign adviser!

not afraid of trumpiacs, grew up in a county full of em

that is in fact trump's campaign manager who assaulted a (friendly!) journalist, denied it, attacked her character, had the candidate say she made it up, and it was all on video just as she said. and putting him onstage right now and congratulating him by name is deliberate

Morbz hates pelosi now too?

Trumps stump speech is basically Charlie sheen talking politics

Yeah the campaign manager nod was gross

So just to clear things up, Kasich win in Ohio means Trump cannot get enough delegates to win the nomination?

look at the short guy in back who has to keep moving back and forth because he can't see over the campaign manager's shoulder

man I'm really scared of Nice Trump

well that group of smirking white guys certainly represented all of america there

don't be scared, organize

trump has said and done enough already to have by far the most negative approval ratings of all the candidates (and it's not even close) and the democrats haven't even BEGUN to drop oppo research on him

all the audio of him saying hateful and degrading things about women
can't walk back the comments on mexicans, muslims, etc..

i mean i'm uncomfortable with this because he's a wild card and i don't even like the idea of him being nominated but he has the worst negatives, if there's anything that will drive overwhelming democratic turnout, it's this guy

So just to clear things up, Kasich win in Ohio means Trump cannot get enough delegates to win the nomination?

no, he can still get enough

Morbz hates pelosi now too?

hate would be pretty strong, she's just a good party soldier/traffic cop

i know you love her getting floor votes for progressive bills she knows will lose tho. very important.

re walls, the more you poll

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/709913295482793985

i've been scared of Nice Trump for months just as a spectre but

don't be scared, organize

^^^

Republicans are gonna back Trump hard imo

yep

even though he will govern like a liberal

lol yeah cops under president trump will be super liberal

because cops will be governed by Trump?

by govern I mean his positions will be way more liberal, not by the amount of people he has lined up and shot or put in the Gulag

good god he's such a fucking buffoon

i tend to include the gulag in my estimation of people's liberalism

i know you love her getting floor votes for progressive bills she knows will lose tho. very important.

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius),

I know you refuse to understand how politics works. Sometimes you vote on shit that you know won't get passed, other times you vote on shit because your constituents threaten to withhold support, still other times you do the heavy lifting for voters like you too pure to be seen supporting a cause or candidate that might embarrass them

sry i am just very opposed to what i can easily imagine becoming a centrist-media ambience between now and november that trump is really One Of Us, he just uses plebian methods, and after all it would be nice to tamp down on some of this chaos

and all this panic is awfully alarmist not to mention leftist and

these people screaming fascist are maybe the real fascists and

yknow.

i do understand it, i just have considerable contempt for it xxxxp

i'll go find a good Twitter quote you can blog about in 2 hours, now

dlh my impression atm is that the media is more likely to err on the side of hysteria re 'the meaning of trump' than cautiousness. restraint doesn't give big ratings.

didn't you mean 'vacuum' up

xpost

well, this means more NRO thinkpieces about the irrelevance of poor white alkie voters

So as we go into the halftime show Sanders is just barely clinging to his lead in Missouri and trading blows with Clinton, down one run with two on base in the bottom of the 6th, bleeding a little but still showing fight. If he can draw a foul and get the and 1, a two-point conversion attempt might keep him in the game, but Clinton has been ably parrying his thrusts and the Russian judge gives her a 9.4.

at this point i'm thinking (hoping? no, cruel) the nro staff might literally self-immolate

Henry Olsen ‎@henryolsenEPPC

Depth of Rubio's FL defeat stunning. He only broke 30% in two counties, Orlando (Orange) and Miami-Dade. 1/2

Who is stunned by that

i read "defeat" as "despair"

I basically never watch cable news except around elections, but I have to say I kind of enjoy the dgaf-ness of Brian Williams in exile.

Ted Cruz is talking about Marco Rubio weaving tapestrires

weave tapestries about his bartender mom and his Cuban dad and his open arms

you try not to give too much weight to meme politics, but i really do remember watching the water bottle thing at the time and thinking "this man will never amount to anything"

dlh, why are you resisting his tapestries

yeah I can't believe Rubio came out of Operation Poland Spring still thinking he could be the leader of the free world

With the returns right now, if every Rubio vote had gone to Kasich, he still would be in third place in all the states except Ohio.

The most depressing takeaways for me in this election have to do with just how much the media and the professional class on the dem side of the aisle seem to have abandoned the working class and economic issues, and how pained they seem at the thought of having to take someone like Sanders seriously, and how strong their grip still is in spite of a populist turn in politics. I don't think it's just a matter of "media conspiracy" that Sanders hasn't gotten more coverage, I think a lot of it is intuitive class sympathies and alignments among the media -- Clinton is the candidate to take seriously because she's like them, Sanders just so obviously isn't. Very much felt this in my own workplace -- highly intelligent people making actually not very sophisticated arguments for why obviously Clinton was the right choice and Sanders was clearly a joke. That depresses me, and the fact that we couldn't quite reach breakaway speed with a campaign that ran against that depresses me, although it was such an unlikely campaign to begin with that it's amazing it got this far.

Now we'll probably get four years of Clinton, during which she'll act nominally progressive but not deliver anything real on economic policies, and as a recession batters her already polarizing presidency, we'll be primed for another Republican in 2020.