Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

ugh @ that anti-hillary trumpstagram. this'll be unpleasant.

it's a special kind of hindsight where you know what happens in the future (DNC) and forecast that hindsight to the past (the present).

just keep unskewing those polls, adam

polls are for failed astrologers

Pardon me, I'm having a private message Facebook brawl with a good friend who called Sanders a Jacobin and a crazy man yelling in the streets and has posted reams of link showing how trade deals have actually been good for forcing Columbia and Mexico to care about the environment.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, March 16, 2016 11:25 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You are facebook friends with Paul Krugman?

My bright side takeaway from Bernie's candicacy is that a professed socialist was able to get as far as he did on his platform. I'm sure we will see future candidates for all different offices picking up that torch now that they see that there's a demand.

there was a WaPo piece awhile back about the poor coordination/prospects of Bernie-associated candidates in downticket races, but yeah it would be good if the energy behind his campaign was directed there.

I'm 100% okay with losing Bernie staying in it as long as possible. JiG otm. Bernie's campaign is performative, it does things. He gets people registered, he gets people stoked up about socialist policy state by state, he gets words into the conversation, and afaict a donation to his campaign has a good chance of either paying an intern for a few hours' work, or producing really really nice ads about issues/constituencies that deserve an airing. The benefits of those will not vanish instantly and imho they feed directly into the kind of medium-turn Left-building some folks are worried about (or in some cases, not necessariily on this board, concern-trolling about).

hillary from pivoting to the center

you mean from the 'left'? haha, tell me another dad.

pivoting = telling different lies

do you ever smile?

just wondering

even when i agree with you, which is actually quite often, you come across as a horrible scold

maybe ILX is cathartic for you and when you're offline you're working on expanding your collection of vintage chinoiserie

I would think it takes a tremendous amount of energy to be that hysterically angry all the time, but maybe it's just the flipside of slurping down all that gloopy Spielberg chum

also chemo and a shitty employer-mandated healthcare plan

Chemo makes a man mean. It's poison in the veins.

I don't recall you being all sunshine and lollipops pre-chemo

http://st.gde-fon.com/wallpapers_original/366408_art_paren_volosy_kimono_busy_businy_1680x1050_www.Gde-Fon.com.jpg

Morbs in kimono circa 1994

ignore these trolls Morbz. keep fighting the good fight

i don't really mind the misanthropy, just wish it came packaged w/ more ideas than a bitter junior high anarchist

Speaking of junior high, I posted a video of Trump motor-boating Giuliani. I hope everyone enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE

No not that one, it's a different youtube link.

what this thread needs now is Jerry (not his senile praise of Trump either, but hey a 90-year-old bootstrappy millionaire whaddya expect)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erLJdTPa2i4

hope that's junior-high-anarchist enuf for Mordecai

he praised Trump?! I missed that

he said in his birthday interview he's blind and almost deaf, so who knows what he's getting

concentrate on the work

he just feels the good vibes

maybe he just appreciates Trump's deluded manchild schtick

damn i've been school on grayson. thank you based ilx

I would remind (Trump and Cruz) that John Kasich is the governor of Ohio and, as such, he's the commander-in-chief of the Ohio National Guard of long historical memory. If he wants to get to the floor, he'll get to the floor. Seriously, though, if they think they can ram Paul Ryan through in the face of what's coming, then obvious anagram Reince Priebus has departed for the Land of Nod, never to return.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a43073/republican-convention-civil-war/

http://www.newsweek.com/my-god-theyre-killing-us-our-1970-coverage-kent-state-328108

Next scheduled debate cancelled by fox

Kasich’s win in Ohio, with Rubio quitting, puts him in play for California, Maryland, and Wisconsin, among others. California,
with 172 delegates, may be Trump’s last chance to win outright; Kasich will be strong on the coast, and Cruz will go after Palm Springs, the desert cities, and parts of Orange County.

Don’t count Trump out. But Republicans are in a clear three-way split, and I doubt it will change before Cleveland.

Prepare for war—-physical, political, and otherwise. And if you have doubts, go with the one who attracts the quiet man.

Because to confuse silence for weakness is a terrible mistake.

http://mashable.com/2016/03/15/kasich-is-the-man-of-the-silent-majority-says-dick-nixon/

I was about to say, is someone imitating Dick's prose

[Grayson]'s a world class asshole

This matches what I've heard about him.

― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:52 PM (2 hours ago)

for a politician, give me an asshole with good policy positions over a guy you'd want to have a beer with with worse opinions any day

from today's Bernie fundraising email:

What you will not hear from the political and media establishment is that, based on the primary and caucus schedule for the rest of the race, this is the high water mark for the Clinton campaign. Starting today, the map now shifts dramatically in our favor.

Arizona, Idaho, and Utah are up next Tuesday. Alaska, Hawaii, and Washington State caucus the Saturday after. Then it's Wisconsin's turn to vote.

That means we have an extremely good chance to win nearly every state that votes in the next month.

doesn't matter unless he wins 99% to 1%, which he won't

bernie's only chance to win is if hillary gets indicted or something. which is possible!

i agree bernie supporters ideally should be (co-)focussing their energies on down ballot and local races. fail to see the necessity of speculating on whether our nationally representative sample of facebook friends are doing so

is there a recent poll that shows Sanders doing particularly well in Arizona?

How likely is this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-nicholas-phillips/doomsday-savior-how-paul-ryan_b_9474788.html

That piece is barely written in English.

This Year’s Biggest Superhero Movies Are All About America’s Descent into Fascism
http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-year-s-biggest-superhero-movies-are-all-about-amer-1765086280

if any bernie fans wanna help contribute to a quixotic house race against one of the leading climate change denialists in congress (lamar smith), this is your mans

http://www.wakely2016.com/contribute

lol "Here's what I surmise about some movies I didn't see" xp

nice to see Shakes getting his arguments out to a wider audience though

is there a recent poll that shows Sanders doing particularly well in Arizona?

― There was a hole bunch of problems whit his campaigns (crüt), Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

basically no polling at all. 538 doesn't even have pages for arizona, idaho, alaska, hawaii or washington, all having dem contests in the next two weeks. they do have utah, but the polling there is extremely scanty - last two included cover jan 6-13 and feb 10-15. i have no expertise here but i suspect people usually don't plan to do a lot of polling of later states since the assumption is the race will be sewn up. if people are polling them now (which i imagine they are, though maybe not aggressively since the race does not look competitive) there will eventually be some info, but it won't be very robust and reading momentum/trends will be basically impossible. i suppose it could turn out that bernie wins all of them by 80% landslides but uh i would not hold my breath on that one.

xp: (nb: I know that is not actually Shakey)

like I'm the only guy around here that complains about movies I haven't/will not see

not that anyone has ever cared, but i'm assuming hawaii goes hillary out of dnc loyalty, tulsi gabbard or no -- i see way more bernie signs where i live but i doubt it's the same on oahu. still looking forward to voting bernie tho.

rising sea tides lift all gloats

by now someone must have written about how the tea partiers were so successful at primarying establishment republicans, right? i remember seeing some profile once that they all used forums + email lists to coordinate. what would a national organization that tried to push "bernie"-style candidates this election (and in the midterms) look like? something like this must already exist, right?

I've never heard of one

not that anyone has ever cared, but i'm assuming hawaii goes hillary out of dnc loyalty, tulsi gabbard or no -- i see way more bernie signs where i live but i doubt it's the same on oahu. still looking forward to voting bernie tho.

― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:51 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

had no idea ilx had a new hawaii correspondent since gr80 moved to chicago!