Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

(xpost) Keep going! I might even go back and round up all the times I said Trump couldn't possibly win.

i won't have time for awhile but there was also a prediction that trump would either end up broke or in jail by the end. there's still hope for that i guess

kudos to Casino for that prophecy; please let me know if you have any thoughts on powerball

global tetrahedron: Glad you dug that up--I was completely, spectacularly wrong about Trump's chances. I actually don't mind, though (notwithstanding Trump himself); I generally hate smug proclamations of certainty when it comes to politics, and was dumb enough to fall into that trap with Trump.

don't feel too bad, iirc almost everyone in the world was totally and spectacularly wrong about trump and expressed certainty about it. s

the first incident where I thought conventional wisdom re: Trump's chances were wrong was when he suffered zero fallout from dissing McCain. After that I viewed his campaign differently.

Three things I like about Trump (no need for a lecture Treeship, I'm mostly horrified by him too):

1) A few of his insults at the debates were perfect (telling Cruz no one in the Senate liked him, telling Bush his mother should have ran instead).

2) When he openly mocks the media for playing along (thinking of the time Chuck Todd was excoriating him over something and Trump calmly said "It got you to pay attention, didn't it?").

3) That he made everybody who said he couldn't win the nomination (me included)--who knowingly pointed to the establishment and the fact it's a rigged game--look stupid.*

*(Seeing as he hasn't actually won yet, I'll attach an asterisk to that one.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rabbis-call-for-boycott-of-trumps-speech-to-pro-israel-group/2016/03/17/8e2f2ea6-ea14-11e5-a6f3-21ccdbc5f74e_story.html

apologies if this was already posted
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calling dibs on the dn btw

wtf

Human Life Won't Become a Cat

can you bold a dn?

I'm honestly not understanding what that means. Is it against stem cell research or something? I'm sensing it's about abortion but

notably, that tweet seems confused not only about biology, but about what petitions are for

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.Mb7c40319e98d82ee20bbea408e8be831H0%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

yeah. like you know how people think nothing of getting abortions for their cats and do it all the time. he's saying with people it's not like that.

xp yeah the *argument* is that "Human life begins at conception because you know it's a human once it's conceived." P sure human sperm won't become a cat either though.

rip xp

Just about a quarter notch above "Evolution isn't real because I've never opened a jar of peanut butter and found a spontaneously generated organism" in sophistication.

Human Life Won't Become a Cat

i would swear i read this on clickhole

ghoul game i can't help playing: my only success iirc besides staying unconfidently quiet early on has been jumping wholeheartedly aboard the this-is-fascism, it's-not-about-trump's-motives-it's-about-the-movement train back when people (ilx people -- the larger world of course is notoriously trigger-happy w hitler comparisons) were still arguing that this was ahistorical teenage hysteria, not that i haven't indulged in teenage hysteria since. (but ahistorical's a fighting word.) also i correctly predicted the outcome of the hawaii republican primary, which i could have done w even more certainty by polling the eight people planning to vote in it.

no ilx evidence of this but my personal oh-fuck moment was when trump started bragging about everyone else onstage (+ hrc) being bought and paid for and none of them had any idea how to respond, not just because it was true but because they had thought that was just how it worked. i'm sure that e.g. ross perot said that kind of thing too (idk?) but this was the year for it.

Watch this video and sign this petiton if you know that a human life won’t become a fly or a pod:

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Human Life WON’T Become a FLY

Human Life Won't Become a Cat

i would swear i read this on clickhole

― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:37 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought it was clickhole or something similar when I first saw it.

global tet, thank you. for the record though the very first thread was this one Your 2016 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

where KM was the first to mention trump as a candidate, then rule him out: "although it would be hilarious"

**delivers petition to publisher of Animorphs series** WE NEED TO HAVE WORDS, MISTER

http://2fast2die.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/peter-criss-1.jpg

xpost we have to admit that it has been hilarious at times

Found this in that first thread:

I thought (Cruz) was ineligible, destined, after a triumphant homecoming, to be our Prime Minister one day, but I see he became a naturalized citizen in 2005.
― clemenza, Sunday, 22 March 2015 15:26 (11 months ago) Permalink

It will be an issue at some point. Maybe just for a single news cycle, but someone will make a stink about it.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 22 March 2015 15:32 (11 months ago) Permalink

Someone did.

lmao fox is gonna hold a second tier debate for the candidates who dont fit in the first one!
― lag∞n, Monday, 15 June 2015 14:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

glad to see that trump will be debating somewhere, then
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 June 2015 14:57 (9 months ago) Permalink

Should've been done years ago. tick.jpg

Saw highlights only - Bingham was excellent. Ronnie looked totally under the cosh.

Anyone but Trump. Would've fancied Robertson to beat him but he's out after a tight match last night.

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, April 30, 2015

Meanwhile check out these dead enders

A secretive group of Republican operatives and conservative leaders convened Thursday morning for more than three hours to discuss ways to unite the right against Donald Trump, with a presentation about the feasibility of mounting a third-party challenge as well as extensive deliberations about whether a coalition of anti-Trump forces could prevent the billionaire mogul from securing the party's presidential nomination at the July convention in Cleveland.

"It's certainly not too late," Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) said as he left the session. "You could get another party on the ballot. If you did that, you'd need a movement conservative to be the candidate."

"I was just here to listen," Franks, a supporter of Trump rival Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), added. "I am worried about the kind of damage that Trump could cause to our party. You can't trust him and we've got to stop him."

republican convention is gonna be like the end of the wild bunch

who will be Robert Ryan?

Trump, a triumph of democracy

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a43055/trump-hillary-general-election/

I still remember watching him come down that escalator, and the person standing up top drop their sign in the process. It was such a a ridiculous materialization of a lost Tom Goes To The Mayor episode that it was completely not threatening at all.

Just saw an interview where Harry Reid praised Cruz over his Obamacare filibuster: "At least he stands for something" (that's all I caught--I assume he meant as opposed to Trump).

Does this mean Reid wants Cruz or Trump to win?

mitt romney feels like the robert ryan here, he just needs the mustache.

Does this mean Reid wants Cruz or Trump to win?

― clemenza

heh – sounds like what I call the Harriet Miers Strategy, which worked well for Reid.

first time I've heard this "Grover Norquist is a jihadist" theory:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/cruz-names-anti-muslim-paranoic-as-top-adviser.html#

Forgot all about Norquist--haven't heard him mentioned once this cycle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/08/13/nearly-all-the-gop-candidates-bow-down-to-grover-norquist/

That dates back to last August, when Trump was one of three people who hadn't signed the "pledge."

cruz named gaffney to his national security advisory team? loooool

that "fetuses don't become cats" tweet is a good reminder that while Trump is an a+fascist schlemiel, the rest of the party's nominees aren't much better except at hiding the crazy

Is this like that thing where GWB was asked what was the worst judicial decision, and he said Dred Scott?

Lots of people were laughing about, oh, okay, W is being very brave in coming out against chattel slavery. But where does he stand on Teapot Dome, Smoot Hawley, etc.? Har de har har, until it was pointed out that it was a pro-life dogwhistle.

Kasich has unleashed the heavy artillery: he's got some mildly critical Tweets directed at Trump today (March 17, 2016).

holy christ – Frank Gaffney AND Michael Ledeen AND Elliott Abrams in Ted Cruz's national security posse?

I had totally forgotten about Ledeen what a shitbag

Trump died yet?

Not yet, check back later.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/18/us/politics/obama-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html

Mr. Obama acknowledged that Mrs. Clinton is perceived to have weaknesses as a candidate, and that some Democrats did not view her as authentic.

But he played down the importance of authenticity, noting that President George W. Bush — whose record he ran aggressively against in 2008 — was once praised for his authenticity.

...

Our president seems to have confused authenticity and honesty