Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

I don't think that's what sunk Kerry

Dem base wasn't gonna get excited about a candidate who was just gonna "do better" at Dubya's stupid war, the guy had to inspire turnout, and his basic positioning was flawed and stupid.

stupid, I say! Dems should've run an antiwar candidate, but they were too cowardly.

what's weird is that kerry is an obvious antiwar candidate w/ his vietnam protest background. considering that lord knows why he voted for the iraq war.

that Kerry died awhile ago, now he advocates for lobbing some soft cruise missiles

HRC connects as one of several unfortunate symbols, pick one

I don't think that's what sunk Kerry

― Οὖτις, Thursday, March 17, 2016

he was on a Swift Boat.

what's weird is that kerry is an obvious antiwar candidate w/ his vietnam protest background. considering that lord knows why he voted for the iraq war.

― Mordy, Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:02 PM (3 minutes ago)

yeah i think that iraq war vote may have had something to do with it

idk what to think of Kerry as secretary of state -- less blood on his hands than Clinton for sure, and I'm impressed with the smoothness of the Cuba-U.S. reopening.

As senator he had a mostly honorable career (one of the few interested in impeaching Reagan; investigating Contra-drug ties; BCCI). He would've made a good president had he he run twenty years earlier.

otoh we never bombed an MSF facility while hill was SOS (iirc!).

just a citizen or three

and some 'militant' children

gosh look at you always moving the goal posts. first you don't want us to bomb hospitals, then you don't want us to kill innocent civilians and american citizens, next you'll want what? no more coups of democratic countries???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxjM1yCcqTQ

Referencing America recovering from President Trump.

I think Kerry's badness is overstated he was a okay candidate and Bush was just not as unpopular as most people think he was in 2004

swift boat stuff probably had zero effect on anything, that was just meat for the republican base

sanders not asking for a missouri recount which leads me to believe he's rethinking how long he's going to stay in the race at this point

Yeah, I'm sure he knows he's not going to win, but also he gets basically the same amount of delegates from Missouri no matter who is the official winner

delegates are awarded proportionally so it doesn't really matter

I think Kerry's badness is overstated he was a okay candidate and Bush was just not as unpopular as most people think he was in 2004

― iatee, Thursday, March 17, 2016

otm -- and Bush barely won. Remember when Ohio results were unknown for about twelve hours?

The surge worked!

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1513872471.jpg

http://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/JohnKerrySalute.jpg

Stuart Stevens, Romney's guy in 2012, is actually funny--just got off two great lines on CNN. 1) "I take back what I said about Donald Trump not bringing people together: with Graham supporting Cruz, the Rapture must be at hand." 2) (After a couple of minutes of the usual arguments over Trump) "I've been in a lot of delegate-hunting meetings, and that's the first time I've ever heard the word 'moral' come up."

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Senator Rubio says he won't be anyone's VP, not running for Gov in Florida..and will be private citizen in January

i'm picturing rubio just sitting in a recliner staring at a wall for hours on end

they'll take his batteries out and put him in a closet, to be found years later on Storage Wars

i know he's young but is rubio basically saying "fuck politics" right here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya1GWB2AMnY

impossible to unsee http://gawker.com/after-this-video-you-will-never-be-able-to-watch-ted-cr-1765312656

http://lionsoftrump.net/2016/03/15/lion-guard-is-born/

lots of people design lots of websites that probably they don't mean

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MARCH 17, 2016 AT 8:57 PM
I’m forming a chapter of Lion Guard in Riverside county. Visit my web site ca1iforniaf0rtrump.com. We are having a rally Saturday, March 26, 12:00 noon in Temecula at the duck pond. Trump must win in California!

Lion Guard
MARCH 17, 2016 AT 10:09 PM
YES! Thank you! Together we can Make America Great Again!

I have a hard time believing that's not parody? Though perhaps the the commenters.

The writing style seems wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/X1rJXE4.jpg?1

Perhaps "not" the commenters xpost

lions guard logo/branding looks weirdly well developed

fasces gratia fascis

Kinda bizarre statements by Bernie on Rachel Maddow tonight about how he could conceivably be making his case to superdelegates at the convention even if behind on pledged delegates.

"There are other factors, and the other factors will be the strength of each of us in taking on the Republican candidate. What I think is most important to all of the delegates, including the superdelegates, is that we have a candidate who will win."

Only scenario where that has any integrity I can see would be if he was ahead in total popular vote but through delegate proportioning was behind in pledged delegates. I think that's possible in the same way a similar thing is possible with the electoral college.

didn't watch that segment but he's probably also referring to polls showing him beating trump and cruz head-to-head by a larger margin than hillary is. i doubt the meaningfulness of those polls, but if you're in his position you're certainly going to play them up

Amazing the stuff you forget. CNN was just playing 2008 debate clips, and Clinton was going after Obama over Tony Rezko. Don't think I heard that name even once in 2012.

But that would be a weaselly reason for why you should be the nominee when you didn't actually win.

xp

It all sounds vaguely familiar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVHq-SLrah4

so what do we think about this wild scenario? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-nicholas-phillips/doomsday-savior-how-paul-ryan_b_9474788.html

Flopson - that Cruz video was nauseating!

amateurist: well, y'all laughed at me last time i brought up the corrupt bargain of 1824...

that said paul ryan is no henry clay.

Wasn't that the premise of the Veep season 4 finale?

This harebrained theory was co-conceived and written with Chris LaTondresse, VP of Communications and Strategy at The Expectations Project and former advisor at USAID’s Center for Faith Based and Community Initiatives.

re Rubio "he's young" - I guess. It pains me to say that he and I were born four days apart (May '71). Cruz is only slightly older (December '70).

This year we may elect the last insufferable Boomer, for good or for ill. The president after next could well be younger than everyone here, and that will be a strange cultural moment. Figuring out how to mock them will be an interesting process.

I'm older than one of my current U.S. Senators. I look forward to boxing his big jug ears one day.