New Order - Music Complete

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I'm surprised it's not on youtube.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 18 March 2016 03:37 (eight years ago) link

I'm really struggling to imagine what 'People On The High Line' would have sounded like with Hook on board. It sounds like the kind of track they couldn't have made with him, or if they had it would have sounded very different.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

TOOTI

FROOTI

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

Stumbled across this thread tonight: as a fan since Power, Corruption, & Lies, I would say that there's one 10/10 song here in Tutti Frutti, which would have sat proudly on Technique. Plastic might be another great song if they had dispensed with its coda: most of the songs here would benefit from editing - for example, Nothing But A Fool could say everything it has to say in 3 or 4 minutes instead of 7. Still, as someone said above, when a band has been part of your life for decades, you're just glad that they made a new record with one great song on it.

Driver 8, Saturday, 19 March 2016 06:38 (eight years ago) link

'Tutti Frutti' has a great chorus, but I think the verses could have been better.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/news/64491-new-order-announce-expanded-edition-of-music-complete/

Yep, here comes "Complete Music" - all the expanded versions from the big box.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link

looks like after they get this release out they're going to become realtors.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 1 April 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link

The 10-track EP of "Singularity" remixes that is now up on Spotify is a slog to listen to in one sitting, but the Errol Alkan Extended Mix and a couple of the other mixes that reframe the song as more of a pure synth/sequencer-driven track along the lines of "Plastic" are an improvement over the album mix, in my opinion.

The 10th track is a Tom Rowlands remix of "Tutti Frutti" that throws everything and the kitchen sink into the mix, but is pretty fun to listen to.

Driver 8, Saturday, 2 April 2016 00:49 (eight years ago) link

Tried this album again last night but couldn't get past the third track IIRC.

MatthewK, Saturday, 2 April 2016 03:16 (eight years ago) link

The running order for this album could be re-arranged in any conceivable way, and I still wouldn't be able to get past three tracks.

Campari G&T, Monday, 4 April 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link

your loss
I feel like a sucker but caved in and impulse-bought the new extended version

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 4 April 2016 15:52 (eight years ago) link

Is that 'extended' as in extra songs, or as in average track-length now 12 minutes?

Campari G&T, Monday, 4 April 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

New Order - Music Complete

glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 4 April 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Extended versions are on the whole fantastic - loving this album more than ever ("Superheated" probably the only song I never warmed up to).

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 June 2016 10:20 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Really ended up loving the first four songs of this album and not really enjoying the rest. But wow, those first four were the most New Order-like compositions in 25 years.

Something I've noticed over time is the similarity of "Restless" to Technique's "Dream Attack". In fact, the more I've listened to it, the more it seems like "Restless" is an attempt to fix a problem that Bernard identified with "Dream Attack" in that he felt the song had "no chorus!"

I think it's most obvious after the second verse of the album version when the strumming and strings come in at 2:34

https://play.spotify.com/track/0tE2jOqAMQxLhWD1sKQxBS?play=true&utm_source=open.spotify.com&utm_medium=open

(Including the Spotify link there because there doesn't seem to be a YouTube of the album version out there!)

"Dream Attack": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDXBPZoV2jw

yesca, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 00:03 (seven years ago) link

screw you bernie dream attack is perfect

schlump, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link

when did Sanders hate "Dream Attack"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

I think "Dream Attack" is basically perfect too. I've grown to love "Restless" over time but probably not as much.

yesca, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link

dream attack was one of the first new order songs I really loved

akm, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 02:27 (seven years ago) link

Dream Attack is still my favorite New Order song.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 04:38 (seven years ago) link

once again bernie is outvoted

schlump, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 05:10 (seven years ago) link

I doubt I'm alone in saying part of what makes "Dream Attack" so good is that the chorus is so understated

Vinnie, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 06:10 (seven years ago) link

I saw them live at Bilbao BBK last week, it was a really great set if only an hour long. They were doing interesting things with the older material, they seemed to have made it sound a lot more chunky than the recorded versions, and it was interesting that they kept to the more electronic side of their back-catalogue. The newer material was more faithfully rendered.

ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 10:08 (seven years ago) link

I'd like to know why they never play anything from Technique, and haven't since reuniting in 2001 (afaik?).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 13:00 (seven years ago) link

That's utterly baffling, I would have thought songs like Run and Love Less would be fixtures in a live set. I see they dragged out Round & Round once in 2012, noted as "first time since 1993". Maybe they hate that period of the band's history, or the lyrics are too related to Barney's divorce ... ?
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2012/vector-arena-auckland-new-zealand-3def10b.html

MatthewK, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

Same for Republic, including Regret (at least on this tour)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, but no one considers Republic the best NO album, or even one of the best, save for Regret. Makes sense it would be ignored; I mean, nothing from Movement, either. But Technique is all killer, no filler.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

They played "Regret" when I saw'em in March.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

no one considers Republic the best NO album, or even one of the best,

At some time every album b/w 1982 and 1993, including Electronic, has been my favorite NO album.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link

On the 2013 tour they were playing Regret and World from Republic, which is nice. But yeah... nothing from Technique at all. I don't mind, I like Republic better anyway.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

I would beg them to play a concert that was nothing but Movement and Technique

http://porno (DJP), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

I saw Hooky doing the whole of Movement with The Light about 3 years ago, that was good in a slightly karaoke kind of way, and his voice was suffering by the end of the set

ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

Saw them in Manchester Saturday and beforehand I was fantasising about a set of just Technique with an encore of Tutti Frutti. But yeah, no Technique at all. Your Silent Face was unexpected and good. Encore was just Decades and Love Will Tear Us Apart which was a bit of a buzz killer tbh. On a positive note it was some buzz they'd built up by that point to kill.

ewar woowar (or something), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

Would love to hear some first album Electronic songs mixed into a live show. It's the great lost New Order record under a different name. Anyone who needs a refresher course on who drives the creative of this band really need to go back and listen to the debut albums of Electronic and Revenge. God damn the Revenge stuff was embarrassing.

yesca, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

Johnny Marr played some Electronic on tour.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Bernard played Tighten Up on the Bad Luetinent tour.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link


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