Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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tons of paleoconservative guys are against Trump - Erick Erickson, NRO, Cruz, etc. there is def room for that argument.

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 March 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

The argument would also be easily ripe for co-opting by the establishment, which rightly fears the election losses Trump is going to engender

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 March 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

establishment types could argue "see why did you foolish plebes abandon core conservative principles for this con-man?! Return to the sweet bosom of trickle down economics and dog-whistling"

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 March 2016 22:56 (eight years ago) link

the worst aspects of tarp is that nobody wanted to take a hair cut on what they were owed. it was 100% privatize profits, socialize losses, which is some anti capitalist bullshit, imo.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 18 March 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link

taking the risk out of risk management amirite

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 18 March 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link

seems pretty pro-capitalist to me

capitalism has always relied on gov'ts to prop it up

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 March 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

Difference between pure capitalism and monied interests asking for government bailouts shocker.

Sorry To Be The Bearer Of Bad Poos (Leee), Friday, 18 March 2016 23:58 (eight years ago) link

rent seekers gonna seek

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 19 March 2016 00:40 (eight years ago) link

he is staying in out of the home that he can convince enough superdelegates to overturn the pledged delegate majority

I'm not sure that the content of the interview adds up to this, although he is a bit vague.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 19 March 2016 02:16 (eight years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/what-bernie-sanders-has-achieved?mbid=nl_160318_daily&CNDID=26735857&spMailingID=8684571&spUserID=MTA5MjQwNDkyNzc5S0&spJobID=882044232&spReportId=ODgyMDQ0MjMyS0

john cassidy (who was pretty harsh toward bernie earlier in the race) on what his run has accomplished

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 02:16 (eight years ago) link

ehh, i guess i really shouldn't try and argue about the bailout - i genuinely don't know enough about it, though i still feel like my gut is pointing me in the right direction. obviously many dopey and ill-informed beliefs are maintained by similar methods.

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 March 2016 02:36 (eight years ago) link

all US help for big banks can be summarized, Raging Bull style, as SUCKING BIG FAT ELEPHANT DICKS

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 March 2016 03:13 (eight years ago) link

wow homophobic

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 March 2016 03:18 (eight years ago) link

pachydermphobic

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 March 2016 03:20 (eight years ago) link

Eat dumbos dick

Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 March 2016 03:25 (eight years ago) link

@dick_nixon
One of NBC's main political reporters -- not Todd or Russert -- just suggested on the air that Clinton put Rubio or Kasich on the ticket.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 March 2016 13:58 (eight years ago) link

It happens every cycle. "Unity ticket" blah blah. (Also, I think that was Chris Matthews, because OF COURSE it was.)

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 19 March 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link

How about Jim Webb!

I think President Trump, in the name of unity, should just appoint all the former GOP nominees to whatever positions open in his administration, as they come along. Secretary of State! Um, Carson. Attorney General! Um, Christie. Post Master General? Rubio. Etc. He's a uniter, not a divider.

Been a couple of days since he said or did something stupid out loud, right? I really hope it's just a coincidence and he's not making a concerted effort to tone things down. Gotta keep the outrage going for several more months, for the sake of the world.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 March 2016 14:48 (eight years ago) link

Trump's veep pick is such an exciting concept I honestly can't wait, but I know I'm going to be disappointed when he does something boring with it

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 March 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link

Postmaster General needs to be Kasich.

living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

all the former GOP nominees

thought for sure this would mean GHWB, Dole, GWB, McCain, and Romney. And maybe Quayle, Cheney, Palin and Ryan. It's gonna be the biggest administration, we're gonna get the best people. Amazing people. You've never seen an administration like this.

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link

Palin = Secretary of Puzzling Syntax.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Trump's veep pick is such an exciting concept I honestly can't wait

Maybe he can turn it in into a reality TV show?

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Trump / Nugent '16

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link

there's always Rudy G

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link

it'll be Palin

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link

Ah, what a gift that would be.

Yoshimi P-We's Playhouse (WilliamC), Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:15 (eight years ago) link

Trump should choose a pro wrestler as his Veep

Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

No idea who, but I can't see Palin for a whole bunch of reasons (above and beyond her innate ridiculousness): has already lost, only room for one egomaniac, Trump's obvious embarrassment at her endorsement announcement, no electoral value (not that I envision Trump studying the map carefully), etc.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

yeah given trump's "loser" rhetoric for romney (and mccain!), i can't see him choosing palin

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

christie seems like the obvious choice

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link

Omarosa would really help his demographics.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

Until Christie gets indicted

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link

i keep thinking christie must have been promised something more substantial for his high-risk toadying than an outside chance at the most frustrating job in the country, but on the other hand maybe his motives at this point have regressed entirely into the primal

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link

chances of a president trump getting impeached, whacked or having a stroke seem pretty high compared to most, veep slot has a decent chance of paying off

hunangarage, Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link

Trump Christie is the lamest possible choice but also provides a lot of opportunities for their unfavorability ratings to actually multiply each other - literally EVERYONE has had a boss like at least of those assholes, and EVERYONE hated that fucking job

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link

chances of a president trump getting impeached, whacked or having a stroke seem pretty high compared to most, veep slot has a decent chance of paying off

who woulda thought chris christie had an lbj long game in him, but i guess he's probably worried about his heart

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

Watching some of this Trump protest in New York. Part of me thinks that anything like this only guarantees him the nomination, generates push-back in any wavering Republicans (why they'd still be wavering, I don't know). But, if you grant Trump even a sliver of a chance in general, anything that previews how exhausting his presidency would be can only be good. You'd have four years of this every day, I would think.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link

kasich is angling for it no?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 19 March 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

he's doing trump a favour by staying in, for a start

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 19 March 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link

Kasich is probably getting strong signals to stay in the race from elements in the party who hate both Trump and Cruz. There is still much confusion among them about how best to play their unexpectedly weak hand.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 19 March 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

On Friday night, after Mr. Trump called for a boycott of Ms. Kelly’s show, the network responded through a spokeswoman.

“Donald Trump’s vitriolic attacks against Megyn Kelly and his extreme, sick obsession with her is beneath the dignity of a presidential candidate who wants to occupy the highest office in the land,” said Irena Briganti, a spokeswoman for the network. “Megyn is an exemplary journalist and one of the leading anchors in America — we’re extremely proud of her phenomenal work and continue to fully support her throughout every day of Trump’s endless barrage of crude and sexist verbal assaults. As the mother of three young children, with a successful law career and the second highest rated show in cable news, it’s especially deplorable for her to be repeatedly abused just for doing her job.”

Ms. Kelly, as she had in the past, has stayed out of the crossfire, opting not to respond personally to Mr. Trump’s provocations.

Later Friday night, the Trump campaign responded in a statement from its spokeswoman, Hope Hicks:

“Megyn Kelly is a highly overrated reporter and anchor that constantly disparages Mr. Trump with negative and inaccurate reports. Despite the fact he wants nothing to do with her and will not appear on her show due to her extremely biased reporting, much of the program is about him anyway on a nightly basis.”

“Unlike Megyn Kelly, who resorts to putting out statements via FOX News, Mr. Trump will continue to defend himself against the inordinate amount of unfair and inaccurate coverage he receives on her second-rate show each night.”

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link

ok I did laugh at "second-rate" in response to "second highest rated"

There was a hole bunch of problems whit his campaigns (crüt), Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

i like when trump obviously writes his own press releases in the third person

Treeship, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

"Hope Hicks" is an amazing name

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

'Despite the fact he wants nothing to do with her and will not appear on her show due to her extremely biased reporting, much of the program is about him anyway on a nightly basis.'

This is such an insane thing for a presidential frontrunner to say.

Frederik B, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

Republican Leaders Map a Strategy to Derail Donald Trump

Republican leaders adamantly opposed to Donald J. Trump’s candidacy are preparing a 100-day campaign to deny him the presidential nomination, starting with an aggressive battle in Wisconsin’s April 5 primary and extending into the summer, with a delegate-by-delegate lobbying effort that would cast Mr. Trump as a calamitous choice for the general election.

Recognizing that Mr. Trump has seized a formidable advantage in the race, they say that an effort to block him would rely on an array of desperation measures, the political equivalent of guerrilla fighting.

...The names of a few well-known conservatives have been offered up in recent days as potential third-party standard-bearers, and William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, has circulated a memo to a small number of conservative allies detailing the process by which an independent candidate could get on general-election ballots across the country.

Among the recruits under discussion are Tom Coburn, a former Oklahoma senator who has told associates that he would be open to running, and Rick Perry, the former Texas governor who was suggested as a possible third-party candidate at a meeting of conservative activists on Thursday in Washington.

aaaaahahahahahahah

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

This is such an insane thing for a presidential frontrunner to say.

― Frederik B, Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:20 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah dude, trump's off the wall

Treeship, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link


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