Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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there's always Rudy G

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link

it'll be Palin

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link

Ah, what a gift that would be.

Yoshimi P-We's Playhouse (WilliamC), Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:15 (eight years ago) link

Trump should choose a pro wrestler as his Veep

Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

No idea who, but I can't see Palin for a whole bunch of reasons (above and beyond her innate ridiculousness): has already lost, only room for one egomaniac, Trump's obvious embarrassment at her endorsement announcement, no electoral value (not that I envision Trump studying the map carefully), etc.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

yeah given trump's "loser" rhetoric for romney (and mccain!), i can't see him choosing palin

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

christie seems like the obvious choice

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link

Omarosa would really help his demographics.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

Until Christie gets indicted

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link

i keep thinking christie must have been promised something more substantial for his high-risk toadying than an outside chance at the most frustrating job in the country, but on the other hand maybe his motives at this point have regressed entirely into the primal

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link

chances of a president trump getting impeached, whacked or having a stroke seem pretty high compared to most, veep slot has a decent chance of paying off

hunangarage, Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link

Trump Christie is the lamest possible choice but also provides a lot of opportunities for their unfavorability ratings to actually multiply each other - literally EVERYONE has had a boss like at least of those assholes, and EVERYONE hated that fucking job

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link

chances of a president trump getting impeached, whacked or having a stroke seem pretty high compared to most, veep slot has a decent chance of paying off

who woulda thought chris christie had an lbj long game in him, but i guess he's probably worried about his heart

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

Watching some of this Trump protest in New York. Part of me thinks that anything like this only guarantees him the nomination, generates push-back in any wavering Republicans (why they'd still be wavering, I don't know). But, if you grant Trump even a sliver of a chance in general, anything that previews how exhausting his presidency would be can only be good. You'd have four years of this every day, I would think.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link

kasich is angling for it no?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 19 March 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

he's doing trump a favour by staying in, for a start

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 19 March 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link

Kasich is probably getting strong signals to stay in the race from elements in the party who hate both Trump and Cruz. There is still much confusion among them about how best to play their unexpectedly weak hand.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 19 March 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

On Friday night, after Mr. Trump called for a boycott of Ms. Kelly’s show, the network responded through a spokeswoman.

“Donald Trump’s vitriolic attacks against Megyn Kelly and his extreme, sick obsession with her is beneath the dignity of a presidential candidate who wants to occupy the highest office in the land,” said Irena Briganti, a spokeswoman for the network. “Megyn is an exemplary journalist and one of the leading anchors in America — we’re extremely proud of her phenomenal work and continue to fully support her throughout every day of Trump’s endless barrage of crude and sexist verbal assaults. As the mother of three young children, with a successful law career and the second highest rated show in cable news, it’s especially deplorable for her to be repeatedly abused just for doing her job.”

Ms. Kelly, as she had in the past, has stayed out of the crossfire, opting not to respond personally to Mr. Trump’s provocations.

Later Friday night, the Trump campaign responded in a statement from its spokeswoman, Hope Hicks:

“Megyn Kelly is a highly overrated reporter and anchor that constantly disparages Mr. Trump with negative and inaccurate reports. Despite the fact he wants nothing to do with her and will not appear on her show due to her extremely biased reporting, much of the program is about him anyway on a nightly basis.”

“Unlike Megyn Kelly, who resorts to putting out statements via FOX News, Mr. Trump will continue to defend himself against the inordinate amount of unfair and inaccurate coverage he receives on her second-rate show each night.”

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link

ok I did laugh at "second-rate" in response to "second highest rated"

There was a hole bunch of problems whit his campaigns (crüt), Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

i like when trump obviously writes his own press releases in the third person

Treeship, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

"Hope Hicks" is an amazing name

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

'Despite the fact he wants nothing to do with her and will not appear on her show due to her extremely biased reporting, much of the program is about him anyway on a nightly basis.'

This is such an insane thing for a presidential frontrunner to say.

Frederik B, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

Republican Leaders Map a Strategy to Derail Donald Trump

Republican leaders adamantly opposed to Donald J. Trump’s candidacy are preparing a 100-day campaign to deny him the presidential nomination, starting with an aggressive battle in Wisconsin’s April 5 primary and extending into the summer, with a delegate-by-delegate lobbying effort that would cast Mr. Trump as a calamitous choice for the general election.

Recognizing that Mr. Trump has seized a formidable advantage in the race, they say that an effort to block him would rely on an array of desperation measures, the political equivalent of guerrilla fighting.

...The names of a few well-known conservatives have been offered up in recent days as potential third-party standard-bearers, and William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, has circulated a memo to a small number of conservative allies detailing the process by which an independent candidate could get on general-election ballots across the country.

Among the recruits under discussion are Tom Coburn, a former Oklahoma senator who has told associates that he would be open to running, and Rick Perry, the former Texas governor who was suggested as a possible third-party candidate at a meeting of conservative activists on Thursday in Washington.

aaaaahahahahahahah

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

This is such an insane thing for a presidential frontrunner to say.

― Frederik B, Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:20 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah dude, trump's off the wall

Treeship, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

lol. actually i've been thinking about perry's dropping out of the race so early. surely he must be kicking himself after seeing so many other people get their turn in the sun. he's also a complete doofus and probably very susceptible to flattering advice. if these clowns are dedicated enough to actually try to field a third-party "but really, he's the real republican" ticket, perry really might be their man.

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

will someone rid me of this meddlesome Texan

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

he dropped out early i forgot he was ever in it, tbh. but didn't he drop out early, in part, because he was totally out of money and his own campaign workers hadn't been paid in weeks? doesn't seem like he had the financial base to stay in for the long haul, even if he might have eventually had a moment in the sun (i kinda doubt he would have, though. other than wearing glasses he was essentially 2012 ver 1.2)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

what would they call their new ticket? just "independent" or will they make a catchy name

Treeship, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link

shd just be the conservative party like most parliamentary systems, ppl will know what theyre getting

get a long, little doggy (m bison), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:33 (eight years ago) link

i like n.o.p., the new old party

Treeship, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link

I only skimmed it, but the third-party idea might link to a Huffington Post piece that someone linked to the other day--that the objective would be to make sure neither Trump nor Clinton gets half the electoral votes, after which the election gets thrown into the House of Representatives. I don't know, I'll have to go back and read the full piece. For that to happen, the third-party candidate would have to actually win a handful of states, no?

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link

or really any state, which would not happen

get a long, little doggy (m bison), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link

what would they call their new ticket? just "independent" or will they make a catchy name

― Treeship

"functionally illiterate"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

Here's the piece again:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-nicholas-phillips/doomsday-savior-how-paul-ryan_b_9474788.html

It just bulldozes its way over the part about winning states.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link

Maybe, without ever saying so publically, they'd be happy enough ensuring even more so that Trump loses. (Curious as to what the Kristols and Eriksons of the world would honestly prefer: Trump or Clinton?)

clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

perry dropping out so early seems strange in hindsight i guess in part because, okay, he ran out of money, but like, all these other clowns were able to keep that same kind of money pouring in. just weird... i mean clearly he's not very competent at these things but you'd have to figure there would still be some subset of donors either fooled by the glasses or still huffing the fumes of that brief moment in 2011 when democrats quivered at the image of this craggy, plain-spoken texan. like what did jindal have that this guy didn't? in some alternate universe he would be in the kasich seat right now, possibly. the independent goofus conservative party should just be a perry/walker ticket.

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link

perry has plenty of wealthy texans donating, he probably just couldnt take all the mean criticism of ppl calling him dim bc everyone in texas treats him much nicer

get a long, little doggy (m bison), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if maybe he discovered belatedly that Jeb!, through GWB, already had most of the wealthy Texans, and Cruz had grabbed the fringier hardcore conservative ones?

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link

good pt, also rick perry is incredibly stupid

get a long, little doggy (m bison), Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

#neverforget

Perry’s roof-raising speech Friday, which was festooned with ten-dollar words and an emphasis on state governance as a mechanism for crowd-sourcing solutions, broke through in part because it came in a new package: Perry the collected-but-not-cool thinking man, wearing a muted tie, a bespectacled elder statesman whose long tenure as chief executive of the Lone Star state bestowed wisdom on him while showering prosperity on Texans.

Here’s the visual package in a blowup of the above picture, from Perry’s appearance with National Review’s Jim Geraghty. You can’t see Perry’s sensible shoes, but he’s working a subdued, knees-together posture, modestly leaning in to his interlocutor, fully committed to the pursuit of better solutions.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/372882/rick-perry-intellectual-tim-cavanaugh#comments

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link

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Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

Oops sorry

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

I wonder where Trump will come to in CA. Kinda looking forward to it.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

central park today

https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/711234839509377024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link

I wonder where Trump will come to in CA. Kinda looking forward to it.

― Οὖτις, Saturday, March 19, 2016 5

he'll be a big hit in Berkeley and San Francisco

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

I cant see him hitting any of the major metro areas w out huge problems. Sooo ... Bakersfield? Fresno? Central valley is so heavily latino he's probably screwed there too...

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

I can't recall a time when a party's presumptive nominee garnered such big protests prior to the general election even starting

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link


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