Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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Trump should have gone all in and name checked Kissinger.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link

"China has got unbelievable ambitions," Trump said. "China feels very invincible. We have rebuilt China. They have drained so much money out of our country that they’ve rebuilt China. Without us, you wouldn’t see the airports and the roadways and the bridges. The George Washington Bridge [in New York], that’s like a trinket compared to the bridges that they build in China. We don’t build anymore. We had our day."

my neighbor's Pomeranian is sharper

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/AuNdw2H.png

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

But ... but ... China has a wall! A great, big, beautiful wall!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

that wall should've been built in America!

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link

pretty depressing day, given Hil's Likudnik raving as well.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

xxxxpost the women's vote can also swing this, as they have in recent history voted more liberal - the margins have ranged from thin (a few percentage points) to comfortable (11%), but the last Republican to win the women's vote was George H.W. Bush in 1988.

although it's obv possible to win without the women's vote (Dubya - twice!), a candidate that significantly loses the women's vote could find himself in a hole.

Recall in the last election, Romney (who is by all means a dick and socially awkward, but nowhere near the creep Trump is re: women), lost the women's vote 55% - 44% (a sharp contrast to the 52% - 45% advantage he had among men). In an opinion poll taken right before the 2012 election, Romney's net favorability rating among women was -2%.

Trump's, currently? -33% (source: https://theintercept.com/2016/03/21/women-hate-donald-trump-even-more-than-men-hate-hillary-clinton/).

It's very difficult to translate that into numbers (and we're also a ways away from the Gen Election, which gives ample time for him to improve his stature among women), but if he stays that unpopular among women, he could lose their vote 60-40, which would be hard to overcome.

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

morbz that must've been a real heartbreaker finding out that a personal hero of yours is pro-israel

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

Likudnik raving

picturing her waving glowsticks on a beach in Haifa

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

more like her idolators and voter-flunkies do not give a flying shit what she says for 7-1/2 coming months, nor can they fake it

xp

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link

"pro-israel"

i saw what ya did there

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link

don't worry, Morbs: the ice caps are melting

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link

i can't use that alone for security

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

i thought about saying pro-likud but i don't really believe that she is and i'm not sure you actually know what the likud is

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

I likud like that

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link

but lol @ voter-flunkies 👍

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link

ooooh I likud
I get chills down my spine every time I take likud at you

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

I thought that was Webster's dad

xpost

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 21 March 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

Going to see Bernie tomorrow in San Diego!

timellison, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

Sanders or Billingham

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link

kevin drum on the dream team:

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/oh-wait%E2%80%94donald-trump-decides-he-has-foreign-policy-team-after-all

So....this is a helluva C-list crew Trump has assembled. A guy who worked for Paul Bremer; the son of John Schmitz; a former Ben Carson advisor; a Fox News talking head; and a guy who specializes in torts.

As for Trump's actual foreign policy, apparently it's the same as always: he's super militaristic, but he doesn't want to actually use the American military for much of anything. He'd like other countries to start taking care of Ukraine and NATO and the South China Sea—or, if they insist on America doing it, he'd like them to pay us for it. Apparently Trump's ambition is to sit at the head of a vast American tribute empire.

goole, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

Donald Trump as a real-life President Snow makes some sick amount of sense

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 21 March 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

i'm not sure you actually know what the likud is

yes just as i know A. Sharon is their Lincoln

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

David Ben-Washington

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

sharon left likud in 2005 to form kadima

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

and i'm pretty sure likud considers the gaza withdrawal a disaster so

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Phares, who is probably the objectively worst human being on that list, was also part of Romney's team iirc.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 21 March 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link

kasich pronounces natan as nay-ton

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

funky cold kadima

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link

bernie posted his speech:
https://berniesanders.com/sanders-outlines-middle-east-policy/

ppl burnt out on one-sidedness of other candidates will appreciate the even-handedness but it would've been more courageous to actually deliver it in person i think

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

what, is trump about to go on

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link

paul ryan on now. idk when trump is coming.

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link

lol @

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeGrRwGWwAAjWG9.jpg

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link

Aw man, no Ted Cruz

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link

I kind of want a Sanders yarmulke.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link

those look like cheapo bar mitzvah kippot tho. someone was making these on etsy tho much nicer imo

https://img0.etsystatic.com/102/0/9237869/il_570xN.909246962_is7q.jpg

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link

trump speaking now

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link

Maybe this is more significant than I realize, but when Trump always brings up grand-marshalling a parade, it reminds me of Palin talking about her PTA experience as a qualification.

clemenza, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

"i've studied this deal more than anyone else" <dismissive laughter from the crowd> "believe me. beeeelieve me."

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

Maybe this is more significant than I realize, but when Trump always brings up grand-marshalling a parade, it reminds me of Palin talking about her PTA experience as a qualification.

superficially on a different scale but romney's saving-the-olympics bullet point always felt in this class to me.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

positing the Palestinian-Israeli conflict as akin to a real estate deal is p gross imo

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

he's v scripted and in behaving himself / trying to act like an adult mode

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link

"Believe me, believe me, believe me...I get the feeling no one believes me."

clemenza, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link

calling I/P a real estate deal is a kinda super cynical realpolitik take on the situation but it's not v complete. i remember seeing a few years ago polling that showed that israeli + palestinian support for a final deal shot up when provisions like "israel will apologize for the nakba" or "palestine will acknowledge israel is a jewish state" were added, which suggests that the land piece - as serious as it is - is not enough.

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link

yeah I think the non-land-related issues are p essential

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

I keep thinking that he's not as stupid as he sounds -- that when we wins the nomination he'll study. Bush sounded relatively legible by 2003, and Trump was a better businessman.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link

dropped a "ivanka is, maybe as we speak, about to have a jewish baby." i don't understand how david duke could possibly watch this and feel like he made the right endorsement.

Mordy, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

"ivanka is, maybe as we speak, about to have a jewish baby."

*gag*

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link

Duke takes what he can get

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:58 (eight years ago) link


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