Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

Donald Trump as a real-life President Snow makes some sick amount of sense

i'm not sure you actually know what the likud is

yes just as i know A. Sharon is their Lincoln

David Ben-Washington

sharon left likud in 2005 to form kadima

and i'm pretty sure likud considers the gaza withdrawal a disaster so

Phares, who is probably the objectively worst human being on that list, was also part of Romney's team iirc.

kasich pronounces natan as nay-ton

funky cold kadima

bernie posted his speech:
https://berniesanders.com/sanders-outlines-middle-east-policy/

ppl burnt out on one-sidedness of other candidates will appreciate the even-handedness but it would've been more courageous to actually deliver it in person i think

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10268544_10157191048550355_3425385828527479542_n.jpg?oh=5ce664a5bfeb61ac8b56535965657f95&oe=578BFD63

what, is trump about to go on

paul ryan on now. idk when trump is coming.

lol @

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeGrRwGWwAAjWG9.jpg

Aw man, no Ted Cruz

I kind of want a Sanders yarmulke.

those look like cheapo bar mitzvah kippot tho. someone was making these on etsy tho much nicer imo

https://img0.etsystatic.com/102/0/9237869/il_570xN.909246962_is7q.jpg

trump speaking now

Maybe this is more significant than I realize, but when Trump always brings up grand-marshalling a parade, it reminds me of Palin talking about her PTA experience as a qualification.

"i've studied this deal more than anyone else" <dismissive laughter from the crowd> "believe me. beeeelieve me."

Maybe this is more significant than I realize, but when Trump always brings up grand-marshalling a parade, it reminds me of Palin talking about her PTA experience as a qualification.

superficially on a different scale but romney's saving-the-olympics bullet point always felt in this class to me.

positing the Palestinian-Israeli conflict as akin to a real estate deal is p gross imo

he's v scripted and in behaving himself / trying to act like an adult mode

"Believe me, believe me, believe me...I get the feeling no one believes me."

calling I/P a real estate deal is a kinda super cynical realpolitik take on the situation but it's not v complete. i remember seeing a few years ago polling that showed that israeli + palestinian support for a final deal shot up when provisions like "israel will apologize for the nakba" or "palestine will acknowledge israel is a jewish state" were added, which suggests that the land piece - as serious as it is - is not enough.

yeah I think the non-land-related issues are p essential

I keep thinking that he's not as stupid as he sounds -- that when we wins the nomination he'll study. Bush sounded relatively legible by 2003, and Trump was a better businessman.

dropped a "ivanka is, maybe as we speak, about to have a jewish baby." i don't understand how david duke could possibly watch this and feel like he made the right endorsement.

"ivanka is, maybe as we speak, about to have a jewish baby."

*gag*

Duke takes what he can get

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/us/politics/republican-democratic-voters-poll.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0

"My colleague Lindsay Graham...I know, I know--we worked some stuff out."

"colleague"?!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/03/21/i-asked-trump-a-policy-question-then-he-called-me-beautiful/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/03/21/a-transcript-of-donald-trumps-meeting-with-the-washington-post-editorial-board/

disgusting that the wapo insists on colluding w trump in obvious fiction "hope hicks"

sad lol when the first thing Sanders mentions about Palestinian suffering is their employment rate. can't say he's not consistent.

I’d work on spirit because the spirit is so low, it’s incredible, the unemployment, you look at unemployment for black youth in this country, African American youth, is 58-59 percent. It’s unthinkable. Unemployment for African Americans – not youth, but African Americans – is very high. And I would create in the inner cities, which is what I really do best, that’s why when I open a building and I show you it’s way ahead of schedule, under budget and everything else—I think it was the Rite Aid store, the store in Baltimore it took them 20 years to get it built, one store, and then it burned down in one night—we have to create incentives for people to love what they are doing, and to make money.

dog trumpet

sad lol when the first thing Sanders mentions about Palestinian suffering is their employment rate. can't say he's not consistent.

That was striking to me too!

And I would create in the inner cities, which is what I really do best, that’s why when I open a building and I show you it’s way ahead of schedule, under budget and everything else—I think it was the Rite Aid store

amazing sentence

http://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/images/cliptiggerhappy.gif

"Buildin' inner thitiez ith what Tiggers do betht! WOOHOOHOO!"

CNN's got one-on-one interviews with all five candidates airing right now. They just cut to a commercial, and as they glided past Trump standing waiting for his turn, I don't think I've ever seen a politician look more Napoleonesque in the way he was standing. I suppose it should have been an unsettling image, but I just burst out laughing.

the online nazis in the usual places are in deep mourning about trump's speech today

the whole libel laws/protesters section in that wapo transcript is surreal reading but associate editorial page editor jo-ann armao is my hero today

HIATT: But your answer is you condone violence when the guy is really egregious and terrible?

TRUMP: No, I condone strong law and order. I’ll tell you what they —

HIATT: Rip him out of his seat, punch him in the face, isn’t that violent?

TRUMP: Well he punched other people.

HIATT: No, I understand that.

TRUMP: Fred, he punched other people. He was punching people. He was — one guy was, you know, I’d like to say —

JO-ANN ARMAO, ASSOCIATE EDITORIAL PAGE EDITOR: The Fayetteville protester who was sucker punched — he didn’t punch anyone —

TRUMP: No.

ARMAO: He was being escorted from police, and he was sucker punched.

TRUMP: No. When are you talking about? When?

ARMAO: In Fayetteville.

COREY LEWANDOWSKI, TRUMP 2016 CAMPAIGN MANAGER [to Trump]: North Carolina.

TRUMP: I don’t know. I don’t know which one.

ARMAO: Yes you do.

TRUMP: I don’t know. Because we’ve had so many —

ARMAO: That’s the gentleman you said you were going to look into to see whether or not to pay his legal fees.

TRUMP: Oh well that’s a different — that’s different from the one I’m talking about.

TRUMP: Well he punched other people.

HIATT: No, I understand that.

TRUMP: ...I always say we have to be unpredictable. We’re totally predictable. And predictable is bad. Sitting at a meeting like this and explaining my views and if I do become president, I have these views that are down for the other side to look at, you know. I hate being so open. I hate when they say — like I said get rid of the oil, keep the oil, different things over the years, when people are saying what would you do with regard to the Middle East, when we left — We should have never been in Iraq. It was a horr- it was one of the worst decisions ever made in the history of our country. We then got out badly, then after we got out, I said, “Keep the oil. If we don’t keep it Iran’s going to get it.” And it turns out Iran and ISIS basically—

HIATT: How do you keep it without troops, how do you defend the oil?

TRUMP: You would… You would, well for that– for that, I would circle it. I would defend those areas.

HIATT: With U.S. troops?

TRUMP: Yeah, I would defend the areas with the oil.

just fire oil at the enemy, that'll show'em

I always say we have to be unpredictable. We’re totally predictable. And predictable is bad.

shades of nixon playing chicken w sac

HIATT: I’d like to come back to the campaign. You said a few weeks ago after a family in Chicago gave some money to a PAC opposing you, you said, “They better watch out. They have a lot to hide.” What should they watch out for?

...

TRUMP: Well, it means that I’ll start spending on them. I’ll start taking ads telling them all what a rotten job they’re doing with the Chicago Cubs. I mean, they are spending on me. I mean, so am I allowed to say that? I’ll start doing ads about their baseball team. That it’s not properly run or that they haven’t done a good job in the brokerage business lately.

RYAN: Would you do that while you are president?

TRUMP: No, not while I am president. No, not while I’m president. That is two phases.

Right now, look, you know, I went to a great school, I was a good student and all. I am an intelligent person. My uncle, I would say my uncle was one of the brilliant people. He was at MIT for 35 years. As a great scientist and engineer, actually more than anything else. Dr. John Trump, a great guy. I’m an intelligent person. I understand what is going on.

Is it just me or does that WaPo transcript seem like the first time he's actually been confronted on his views by someone other than a TV news hack too chickenshit to follow up?