Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

HIATT: How do you keep it without troops, how do you defend the oil?

TRUMP: You would… You would, well for that– for that, I would circle it. I would draw a circle around it and say, hey, this is our oil. Leave it alone.

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS HAND
IT'S PASSING IN BETWEEN US

again

TRUMP: Well he punched other people.

HIATT: No, I understand that.

cool of Hillary to run to the right of Trump on Israel.

it's how you prove you're "serious"

AIPAC: Well Palestine punched other people

CLINTON: No, I understand that

I was just thinking earlier that, if faced with the Sophie's choice, I would (god help me) take a third term of W. over Trump. And now I'm reading that transcript and thinking, as much as W. often came across like he'd abused a few too many substances during his lost years, Trump often sounds as if he's in the midst of a severe brain event. Trump is so good at elevating regard for other turds just by perpetually being the smelliest one in the room.

if Trump managed to be elected, his entrance interview would be "The permanent govt is making the decisions; go along, or three killshots to the hair."

As a general rule, anytime someone tries to hammer home a self-description ad infinitum, I'm deeply inclined to believe the polar opposite. Yes, please tell us more about how intelligent you are, Donald. And more about this intelligent uncle, because apparently that shit works by way of familial osmosis now? I'd previously thought I was wildly unqualified for any kind of political office but I'm descended from a former Secretary of State so maybe all I need to do is just start telling people what a sensational politician I am and it will become so. People tell me my hands are amazing, too, all the time. Such amazing hands.

my uncle is so amazing, he's going to be so intelligent

The guy basically comports himself like a cross between the kleptocrat King of some nowhere nation, some cartoonishly vain mob boss and the drunk guy holding court at the party who does nothing but boast about dumb shit. "How big is your yacht? Really, that's pretty big. I mean, not as big as my yacht. It's a tremendous yacht. Just tremendous. It gets me all the women, all the power. What's that? Did you say I - did you say something about my yacht? What's that? Nothing? Yeah, that's fucking right, you said nothing. Vito, get this asshole out of here. Get him out!!! And where are the dancers? Where are the fucking dancers!!! I want the fucking dancers to start fucking dancing right fucking now!!! You know, fuck the dancers. Fuck 'em. No, I - you heard me! No fucking dancers! I'm getting the fuck out of here. Vito, get my car. What's th - where are we going? What do you mean, where are we going. Don't fucking ask me where I'm going, I'll fucking tell you when we get there, you fucking ape! Where would you all be without me? Huh? Fucking working the checkout at the fucking supermarket with all the rest of the morons. You should be thanking me for giving me a job. Thanking me! Wait, what? What are you doing? Stop fucking thanking me, you fucking morons! Get off the floor! Jesus fucking Christ, I've got a headache. A huge fucking headache. Vito, run me a bath! Jesus, my head, it hurts to think for all you idiots at once. Vito! Don't just stand there, get the fucking bath ready! Fucking morons ..."

I actually really noticed the mob-boss angle in the CNN interview tonight. He was expressing a kind of theatrical exasperation over something at one point--maybe withdrawing NATO support--and he threw his arms out and gave what-for like he was in Goodfellas: "They wouldn't be happy about it? So they wouldn't be happy about it--what do you want me to do? Now go fuck your mother."

Go get your shinebox

Anderson Cooper asked Bernie if he thought the Cuban revolution was a good thing and Bernie accused him of red-baiting. Nice.

i like bernie sanders

listening to part of the cnn interview with blitzer that trump did and once again.. like the washington post editorial board interview.. you see where with every question he has to jump immediately to the one or two points he has & then either change the subject or attack someone because he's so uninformed on policy

drunk guy holding court at the party who does nothing but boast about dumb shit

yeah drunk guy who knows it all and you're embarrassed for listening to him

he reminds me of kids when they brag about this one thing they did and they tell every single person the same story about that one thing they did

this thing today was super weird (who is this lady, is her biography accurate, how did she get a media credential for a media outlet that doesn't exist)

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/21/media/donald-trump-alicia-watkins/index.html

i went down the slide backwards? did you see? i went so fast, i was going backwards, i had no idea where i was going. i'm a really good slider.

hrc should do political commercials where she accuses trump of being ineligible to be president because kids cannot be president

agree on the childishness as well.. everything is so unfair to him, the media, the questions, the other candidates. it's just so unfair. it's so horrible, so awful. he just wants to be president. why can't he just be president already waaaaah :`( sad!

Yeah, she laughed and said (maybe after he's mentioned another woman, think it was fiancee Megan)something like, "Having sex is *not* the way to get close to you." So if they do, it's just something that happens occasionally, no biggie. The kitchen scene is another reminder of how superfluous he's getting to be. (A woman who knew Roger in Paris before the War recalled, "You seemed like a minor character in your own life.")
Another good Fresh Air interview with Weiner, and Gross plays some very early excerpts that connect with recent scenes in ways I didn't expect (stream, dl, transcript)
http://www.npr.org/2015/05/07/404904172/mad-men-creator-on-don-drapers-losses-and-the-end-of-the-road🔗🔗
Kinda wished they'd waited a few more weeks, but he'll be back at some point.

i mean i guess a modicum of self-delusion is necessary to maintain any kind of optimism or desire to keep struggling, or just to inoculate against despair. but the whole cherry-picking of polls and focus groups and election results reminds me of the excesses of literary interpretation where if /x/ doesn't mean /x/ then it can just as easily mean /y/ if your interpretation is willful and clever enough.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/on-the-road-with-bob-dylan-joan-baez-and-the-rolling-thunder-revue-19760115?page=3🔗

Wut?

some cartoonishly vain mob boss

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/7adSesLmtr4l.jpg

The meeting at The Washington Post was hardly successful: The paper’s opinion deputy digital director, Karen Attiah, took to Twitter to say that Mr. Trump had “hit on” her there

see Ned's previous post in this thread for the article she wrote about it

i didn't see any note here of It's Pat's full-throated 'Palestine hasn't existed since 1948!' yesterday.

Truly a golden age of Israel-coddling ahead from the next prez. Put up some condo towers in those settlements.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1391707_555224394648656_9012642222223602339_n.jpg?oh=9a7b44bb5203fdb0beee286863a64dec&oe=5795B1A9

Oh look, Phyllis Schlafly and the Eagle Forum(chaired by her daughter) are in a bit of a disagreement over which fleshy bag of resentment to endorse more:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/eagle-forums-not-so-polite-split-over-donald-trump

lol, perfect.

AIPAC rebukes Trump for anti-Obama comments

Die-hard Cruz supporter and media icon Glenn Beck, who the website LDS Living calls "one of the most influential Mormons in the media today," invoked a Mormon end times prophecy at a rally in the city of Provo.

"Like many Mormons, I believe in a prophecy that the Constitution will one day hang by a thread in the last days. I believe that time is now, and I believe people like (Utah Sen.) Mike Lee and Ted Cruz will save it," Beck said.

The Christian website Charisma News, where Cruz and his campaign leadership have published articles, wrote that Beck's comments were a reference to the Mormon "White Horse" prophecy, suggesting that Cruz could be the horse.

In 1902, Mormon Elder John Roberts wrote in his journal that the prophet Joseph Smith had said, "You must continue to petition Congress all the time, but they will treat you like strangers and aliens and they will not give you your rights, but will govern you with strangers and commissioners. You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed. It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber."

"It will be preserved and saved by the efforts of the White Horse," wrote Roberts, who went on to predict that "a terrible revolution will take place in the land of America" in which "the most terrible scenes of bloodshed, murder and rape that have ever been imagined or looked upon will take place."

cool story Mormons

lmao

They tried that one when Romney ran, IIRC.

put the white horse in the white house

https://media.giphy.com/media/Dxb9vPUbXyYX6/giphy.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwATF5dnfq4

If you want to ride, don't ride that White Horse.

Not over yet: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-fundraising-hillary-clinton-221024

Additionally, the filing showed that the Sanders campaign spent $620 on Chick-Fil-A.

lol

bernie won democrats abroad today

bernie supporting anti-LGBT chicken

My daughter's school is in the bluest of areas, like mega liberal territory. For some reason the PTA keeps catering events with Chik-Fil-A. I don't know whether it's political cluelessness, a deliberate sabotage operation from a closet social conservative on the board, or just a preference for a certain type of chicken sandwich that is strong enough to overrule all principles.

Knowing that Sanders's campaign is also impure in its social justice-oriented spending is actually kind of a relief.

Though I should say that SANDERS does suggest another chicken provider, iykwimaityd.

when youre on the road, sometimes shit is all there is.

from Bern email:

"Here’s why this result is important: we netted more delegates from the Democrats Abroad voting than Hillary Clinton netted with her narrow victories in Illinois, Massachusetts, and Missouri combined."

true?

probably; those 3 were virtual ties

A friend is circulating an apparently real fundraising effort from Camp Clinton dangling dinner and champaign with Hillary at George Clooney's house to the top bidder.

Barf.

Delegates Abroad:

Sanders - 9
Clinton - 4

+5 Sanders

IL, MA, MO combined:

Sanders - 76 + 45 + 35 = 156
Clinton - 78 + 46 + 36 = 160

+4 Clinton

In 1902, Mormon Elder John Roberts wrote in his journal that the prophet Joseph Smith had said, "You must continue to petition Congress all the time, but they will treat you like strangers and aliens and they will not give you your rights, but will govern you with strangers and commissioners. You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed. It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber."

"It will be preserved and saved by the efforts of the White Horse," wrote Roberts, who went on to predict that "a terrible revolution will take place in the land of America" in which "the most terrible scenes of bloodshed, murder and rape that have ever been imagined or looked upon will take place."

Joseph Smith ran for president in 1844

"Wow! So, if I'm the highest bidder I'll get to have dinner with George Clooney!"

"No, dinner with Hillary at George Clooney's house."

Currently pledged delegates (without superdelegates, since that makes people angry):

Sanders - 850
Clinton - 1174

2383 delegates are needed to win.