Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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xpost -- or the more concise version, "you've given the country a lot of reasons not to believe you," and leave that hanging there.

had to look up rumors about cruz' wife to sate my curiosity, apparently she suffered from depression. massive low blow from trump if that's what he's planning on throwing around but it's not like that's surprising

"Little Teddy's wife is a crybaby. It's true."

'Person who lives in the same home as Ted Cruz suffers from depression' doesn't exactly seem like a lid-blower.

Hey, I know we hate these cats but mental illness isn't funny, and if we follow that line we're basically just accepting Trump's bait imho.

Who said it was funny? I'm saying a) it's totally the kind of thing that Trump would latch onto as crassly as possible, and b) being married to Ted Cruz is certainly a factor that might contribute to someone's depression.

Allegations of depression aside, it's pretty much the grossest thing ever anytime a political candidate starts going after a rival's family.

c) it would indeed be a lame thing to threaten to expose, if that's what he meant

Jeb! endorsing It's Pat today

I guess it's hard for me not to read a 'being married to that guy would make anyone depressed' kinda comment and not feel like it's a cheap zing. But if you didn't mean it that way, my apologies.

fortune has some cool analysis for you

http://fortune.com/donald-trump-white-supremacist-genocide/

Countless numbers of people mention #WhiteGenocide each day on Twitter, but Fortune used social media analytics software from Little Bird to find those who are considered to be the most prominent. In the world of social media marketing, such people are called “influencers.”

“Our technology builds a big network of hundreds or thousands of specialists in a particular field or people who used a particular hashtag, and then analyzes the connections between the people in that network,” explains Little Bird co-founder and chairman Marshall Kirkpatrick. “We then find the person or people in that group that are most followed by others in the same group. It’s kind of like a ‘9-out-of-10 dentists recommend’ model rather than measuring people by the absolute popularity. We view it as earned influence within a specific context.”

The Little Bird software analyzed Twitter content to generate a ranked list of just under 2,000 #WhiteGenocide “influencers” as of February 8. The more impactful, the higher up on the list (which, understandably, ebbs and flows a bit over time).

Since the start of his campaign, Donald Trump has retweeted at least 75 users who follow at least three of the top 50 #WhiteGenocide influencers. Moreover, a majority of these retweeted accounts are themselves followed by more than 100 #WhiteGenocide influencers.

Said this last night--because Cruz's wife works for Goldman-Sachs, and because that's Trump's world, my guess is his threat resides there.

huh Sanders' biggest margins of victory yet

too bad it doesn't matter

yeah, hardly anyone is reporting on it. even with the huge margin, sanders picked up 67, clinton 51, so only a 16 net increase.

I thought it was dumb that CNN's story was "Clinton wins big in AZ" and not "Sanders wins more delegates than Clinton overall"

that's the problem w/ doing v well in small delegate states and poorly in large delegate states. he should do well in wisconsin, washington, guessing wyoming too? no idea about hawaii or alaska, and then the next one is NY where latest polls has hill up +48. hard to imagine he can feasibly catch up. xp

would love to be pleasantly surprised tho and have the party roll on to PA

so AZ's voting was supremely fucked up enough that the GOP governor had to comment on it

'Vader scores direct hit on X-Wings; Rebels also gain'

WA is, idiotically, caucuses, which I'd have to guess favors the Clinton demos.

caucuses + white people favors Sanders

closed Dem primaries favor Clinton

caucuses are really the stupidest thing

"what a great resume" yutzes favor Clinton

caucuses really are archaic in terms of their rules, it's just bizarre. crowds of people shuffling from one area of a room to another.

have you ever been to a Shoney's buffet?

nice

idk what a Shoney's is

that's a no then

Huckabee already dropped out though.

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had not realized but there is a definite cruz / shoney's big boy resemblance

Pssh, 'resemblance' my foot. J'ACCUSE, 'BIG BOY' CRUZ.

ah. we have (had? I haven't seen one in decades) Bob's Big Boy out here. Dunno why they went for the regional branding/different name thing.

Had a business meeting today to which one of the attendees showed up wearing a Trump hat.

if you trace this detour back, it began with the specific idea that if only Trump were questioned more vigorously, people would start to see through him. I disagree with that because a) he is asked follow-up questions, all the time, to no avail--he just repeats the same generalities over and over, and b) I think most people already realize he's saying nothing--people who hate him, obviously, but, as Mad Puffin points out, I'm not even sure what percentage of the people who support him actually take his blather literally. You can ask him for exact details on how he plans to get Mexico to play for his wall twice or five times or ten times, and you just go around in circles.

So, at least call him on it. I do think it would have an effect! His whole shtick is that he's a "winner" who gets away with whatever he wants and, if I was interviewing him, I would feel used. This is a decent example of someone sticking up for the integrity of their program:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psgl0M0wD3A

Or just use his own rhetorical tricks on him. "Many, many people I've talked to think you're a sad little turd. It's true."

az resident here, and I can verify maricopa county (which has 60% of the state's population) was a total disaster last night. it's probably already been mentioned in this thread, but there were only 60 voting locations, compared to 200 in the far less contested 2012 primaries. This is for a county with 4 million people in it.

When it first became clear what a disaster it was, the county recorder tried to blame independent voters for not realizing it was a closed primary. A number of people who were registered with a party have said that the voting locations had their information wrong.

I waited in a giant line for 20 minutes before I realized I could drop off my early ballot, which I hadn't mailed. Someone came by counting and told me I was 720th in line, and that actually seemed accurate.

I think people are just too polite or deferential or something. People don't do enough to undercut his bullshit. Feel like some people on this board could grind him up if given the chance to go toe-to-toe with Lil' Donnie Pee-Pee Pants.

p sure Sanders might be yr best hope of tough cross-questioning

GOP voter suppression efforts paying off big time, eh?

yeah, some stuff i read indicated that it's directly related to the SCOTUS Shelby case that gutted the voting rights act. arizona was one of the states that previously needed DOJ clearance, and now the counties basically can set up their own rules. It's really horrible; az republicans are pretty dominant and, I can imagine, scared that the state starts voting like NV, CO, or NM

i.e. allows latinxs to vote

I think people are just too polite or deferential or something. People don't do enough to undercut his bullshit.

Imagine being deferential to that clown, wtf? I'd love to have seen Paxman in his prime unleashed on this fool.

Had a business meeting today to which one of the attendees showed up wearing a Trump hat.

white or red?

Red.

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/king-bush-cruz-circus-no-hed.png?w=575

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-far-jeb-bush-is-going-to-stop-trump/

someone asked "dick_nixon" a couple weeks ago what Christie's role in a Trump Admin would be and he said "Billy Carter."

man do they love that chart. feel like it kinda sums up a lot of the gaps between what they're good at and what they think they're good at, without marking the moment when they slip into punditry, or interrogating the assumptions behind the model, the variables, the connotations of words... like the numerous unspoken things implied by organizing the field in such a chart, which just get accepted as truths in between the lines.