Rolling 2016 Thread on Race

i kind of think that's more of a qualification question than a disqualification

i would ignore that it's by the same guy who wrote the racist book The Bell Curve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

hmm, not sure i would ignore that

lol at them qualifying him as "libertarian"

Is there a decent aggregator that aims at race domestically AND globally

It told me I was definitely not living in a bubble, which is kind of hilarious as I've spent the entirety of my post-high school life constructing the strongest, most impervious bubble I could reasonably make

Yeah despite the copy saying "if you grew up working class, it will still be reflected in your score even if you become upper-middle later in life" all my knowledge of Nascar and domestic beer didn't save me from being scored in a deep bubble, which I don't think I am THAT much. Weird questions, weird scoring.

Quiz was written by a bubble dweller who likes to think otherwise.

Quiz is aimed at white people and designed under the assumption that education makes you stupid.

I grew up upper middle-class in a middle-class/working-class environment and the test results seemed to inordinately reflect that.

I also laughed at the domestic beer question because I have a refrigerator filled with domestic expensive microbrews.

I am inordinately proud of my time in the service possibly mostly because it makes me a statistical outlier
that is all

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/us/black-privilege/index.html

welcome to 2016

Terrible article. Why don't white people have special institutions explicitly dedicated to their group interests [that aren't also on a SPLC list]? Because they haven't needed them historically or today. However, I do understand why this stuff is coming up - because white people in the US are becoming a minority (slowly) and there is going to be a moment when they have to understand who they are distinct from their historical representation as the hegemonic majority. Are European Americans going to be an identity group like other groups? There's a lot of stuff in there that they haven't had to work out because they've just been the default culture for so long. From the context of identity / belonging I can understand why white ppl might feel like they're lacking something. (i don't think this is separable from the reality that going from hegemony to non-total hegemony will look like a terrible loss / theft to white ppl + like more equitability to everyone else.) imho sorry if anything I said was offensive.

xp sorry, read the title and closed the tab

The concept of black privilege is still so new, though, that some of the nation's most acclaimed scholars on race didn't even know it existed.

Can't help hearing this in a Daily Show correspondent voice

is there an app that sends grenades to the author's house for this shit

Uh, maybe some of you should go back and read the article. I think the author is a bit incredulous about this mountain of "black privilege" everyone thinks they see.

And would they hear a white leader step forward at a crowded news conference to announce: "It's time to talk about reparations"?

I mean, there's the author's answer to "Why isn't there a NAAWP?"

^^^it's a click-bait headline

Are European Americans going to be an identity group like other groups?

Throughout most of the 20th Century Americans of various European backgrounds existed in ethnic enclaves. The next town over from where I live still has stuff like a Polish credit union (not to mention a whole street where all the stores have signs in Polish); there's a huge Portuguese community in Newark still, I think; there's Little Italy in NYC, though it's shrinking; the kitsch Irishness of Boston and St. Patrick's Day; before World War II there was an organization called the German-American Bund...this kind of stuff is currently seen as mostly a relic, for old people, but it could quite easily make a comeback if it's seen as necessary. Hell, I think it probably should. The contemporary pop-cultural understanding of "white culture" is ridiculous, basically synonymous with lameness when it's not just accused of stealing everything good about itself from black people; white ethnic groups should counter that message. Not in a hostile/oppositional way, but as a reminder of what they've brought to the table. "White" isn't a monolith any more than "black" or "Latin" is.

yeah I may have overstated my closing speed, I skimmed and saw the names of usual suspects and was disgusted

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3275/bundesliga/2016/03/31/21877722/german-team-black-up-to-protest-racist-attack

at least, unlike the 2008 Spanish basketball team picture when they were making slanty-eyes in honor of Beijing*, this has a followable chain of logic to it that allows you to see why someone would think this was a good idea

* I still can't believe this happened btw

Germans.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/criticism-of-new-racism-film-journalist-goes-undercover-to-discover-life-as-a-black-man-in-germany-a-656569.html

http://i.imgur.com/u5OknzC.jpg

The use of blackface to fight racism is quite common in Northern Europe. There was a Danish artist who had a happening called 'With Other Eyes', where people could get make up on so that they would look like some other race, and could therefore experience what that is like. The artist got the idea when he forgot to remove his makeup after a play, where he apparently performed in blackface himself (I have no idea what play that would be in 2014, but it's a weird detail) It happened in Denmark a couple of times without anybody giving a fuck, but then it got moved to Malmø, and all hell broke lose.

To the artist's sorta credit, he kinda seemed to get it, when he went to a community discussion about it, and told that he wanted white people to learn what racism felt like, and a black guy stood up and said 'then why don't you have them ask me?'

http://i.imgur.com/IaHAbmX.jpg

"No one speaks and everyone stares at me because I appear as Negro."

"I am fighting ze good fight."

"zat's Jazz"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igYL5w0ZVc8

how many ppl were staring and treating him like a weirdo because he's obviously in blackface and not a black dude

probably all of them

"I wanted to experience what it was like to be black, so I painted myself like a southeast Asian and put on a loud shirt"

"Ugh! What the fuck is wrong with you?"

* leans into camera, whispering * "Obviously, another racist."

nb: I realize that "black" means different things in different countries and that it could encompass southeast Asian in Germany and a few of the people looking at dude aghast in the photo gallery could be from Sri Lanka

I also want to point out how HILARIOUS the makeup application photos in the gallery are

The men don't know, but the little girl understands...

http://i.imgur.com/u5OknzC.jpg

I have been giggling at that specific picture for about 15 minutes

help

http://i.imgur.com/H5TC3jk.jpg

"I go to ze markets, and yet, ze people have no time to speak with black man."

http://i.imgur.com/jKtegqt.jpg

omg I should not be laughing this hard

The use of blackface to fight racism is quite common in Northern Europe.

racism must really be on the ropes in northern europe sounds like

"See, I em forced to stend in ze field allein." (xxxp)

that wig is really something

can someone please make the field one into a gif where he slowly pops out of the flowers

Surely if he'd done the slightest bit of research on the subject he'd know it is not acceptable? So it's not just dodgy in racial terms it's also bad journalism. (I realising saying a guy in blackface is 'dodgy in racial terms' is an understatement, but I do believe he had good intentions about this, and Germany is not America and does not have the same cultural history wrt blackface and blahblahblah... but STILL, he should have known.)

On the other hand, I genuinely love that shirt.

can someone please make the field one into a gif where he slowly pops out of the flowers

^^^

I remember my parents having a copy of "Black Like Me" in the house when I was growing up, why are white people into this idea

http://images3.cinema.de/imedia/6138/4396138,SSIPVzZ80UWjfKuloZv2KYcCS9VQpeUHCtfgwnIZ7Jdh_f+TjbZV41hWsbub+Kmqj92KlnytUMFuYdVnwD7_Wg==.jpg

"Now I stend on hill overlooking der stadt. Much sedness lives in mein herz. I am not being accepted as ein black man by das people."

You realize this story is from 2009? I'm sure a lot has changed since then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWHbDTyPaeQ

white people love this idea because they really don't believe black people