Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

typical politicians don't inspire gut revulsion on the level clinton does

except they do? politicians like bill come along once in a generation

I find that most politicians inspire gut revulsion, tbh.

like any careerist, she was just following public opinion, not leading

well i hate most Americans too

also, she is sposed to know what the fuck she is talking about.

is it possible for you to have a more cynical view of a statesperson's job?

now, her husband, he's a typical politician- he'll shake your hand, look into your eyes, and you get this belief that he actually cares about you and your problems.

...which made his policies and public mien all the more repulsive

Anyone who seeks public office is an egomaniacal psychopath. If they weren't, they'd keep their fucking head down and mind their own fucking business like the rest of us. That's why electoral politics should be abandoned entirely and replaced with a lottery system - people get randomly chosen for one year of unpaid service to the government. You open your mailbox one day and, "Aw, fuck - I'm a Senator!"

that's how the Tea Party does it iirc

over mimosas

That video sort of makes me like her more in a weird way (although I'll still volunteer with the Sanders campaign). It at least feels genuine.

That's why electoral politics should be abandoned entirely and replaced with a lottery system - people get randomly chosen for one year of unpaid service to the government. You open your mailbox one day and, "Aw, fuck - I'm a Senator!"

Didn't the Tea Party recruit a pizza store owner to run for Congress a few years ago?

and I just read the other day he's still trying to hold onto his delegates

ayooooooooooooo

i'm actually starting to go through the rabbit-hole on clinton where i like her precisely _because_ she's so unlikable and untrustworthy. people keep criticizing her by saying she's a "typical politician", but typical politicians don't inspire gut revulsion on the level clinton does. now, her husband, he's a typical politician- he'll shake your hand, look into your eyes, and you get this belief that he actually cares about you and your problems. hillary doesn't have that. and for those of us who don't have this instinctive likability, who don't come equipped with reality distortion fields... well, i personally find it inspiring, in a weird way. she's got this kind of "grandma hermione" thing going for her.

anyway i'm probably just telling an elaborate series of lies to myself because that's what people do by this point in the campaign, but i wanted to share.

― diana krallice (rushomancy), Friday, April 1, 2016 7:17 AM (3 hours ago)

this is what happens when you post to ilm for too long

"i like this record precisely because it's so flawed. humans are flawed, y'know!

i was surprised to see this: http://www.gallup.com/poll/190343/trump-clinton-supporters-lead-enthusiasm.aspx

http://i.imgur.com/RnbdaYn.png

guess it's not so surprising since it's just a poll of democratic voters and not independents but it does contradict the idea that hillary's supporters are not enthusiastic. more likely that internet comments are not indicative of broader population.

"i like this record precisely because it's so flawed. humans are flawed, y'know!

― k3vin k., Friday, April 1, 2016 10:27 AM

aka the Drake Defense

aka the Drake Defense

See also Kanye West. "No, the fact that he totally bungled the rollout and is now frantically retooling the album hour by hour is a profound artistic statement, deconstructing the idea of the album as fixed object!"

i think it makes sense that bernie supporters aren't 'very' or 'extremely' enthusiastic, they would tend to be people more skeptical of a presidential candidate in the first place

That video sort of makes me like her more in a weird way (although I'll still volunteer with the Sanders campaign). It at least feels genuine.

As someone who lives in an area where I'm stopped on the sidewalk seemingly every other day by a Greenpeace volunteer with a clipboard, I have to admit I felt a little thrill seeing her stick her finger in that person's face.

if we're just talking political aesthetics i kind of agree w/ rushomancy in the sense that at this point i much prefer clintonism as flinty lecture spiked w awkward performative friendliness to clintonism as cloying serial-seducer goo about feeling for me

oh like you wouldn't want Clinton feeling you.

if yer that much into war why not play Amon Amarth songs

― Neanderthal, Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Boyd Rice's politics are more in line with Trump

(unless amon amarth is one of "those" metal bands, but i didn't think so)

lol @ "grandma hermione" btw

many xposts

http://nypost.com/2016/04/01/clinton-freaks-out-on-a-greenpeace-activist/

Greenpeace recently released a report showing that Clinton had also received more than $1.2 million in donations bundled — or fundraised — by lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry on her behalf, the Washington Post reported.

"I'm sick of taking their money, sick of it!"

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/01/472615778/fact-check-hillary-clinton-and-donations-from-fossil-fuel-companies

so it appears some people have done their research and while clinton has received some individual donations from people who work in the fossil fuel industry, it's not a lot of money and it seems like it's from ordinary people, not the industry itself. if true, i sort of love clinton's response. (because, tbh, fuck greenpeace *ducks*)

bernie raised $44 million in march alone - $1.2 million is peanuts. i understand why ppl would prefer that she not take any amount of money from any lobbying industries but i also accept what frank said in that interview posted above - it's insane to unilaterally disarm while republicans are taking in millions and millions more from the same industries.

renewing my Greenpeace membership this weekend, thx guys

lol sure you are

wd you like a copy of the check?

"ordinary people"
just concerned citizens participating in our democracy

there are no ordinary people in the fossil fuel industry. just bad people.

http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/OrdinaryPeople.jpg

lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry need to step up their game if they want to compete with wall street bundlers for her attention

bernie raised $44 million in march alone - $1.2 million is peanuts.

You are comparing all of the donations Bernie received for one month with the specific donations she received from one group of people working in one industry

yes, correct that is the comparison. good work!

You are responding to curmudgeon in a sarcastic matter.

Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce and how they make the sausage

http://ronbryn.blogspot.com/2015/05/canadian-bank-us-probed-multiple-times.html

I've decided to parse that URL as "Canadian bank: 'Us probed multiple times'"

i did that too

me probe bank one day

lol

i don't agree with sanders' assessment of the right half of the american people:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/03/bernie-sanders-interesting-theory-on-gops-existence

I think if we had a media in this country that was really prepared to look at what the Republicans actually stood for rather than quoting every absurd remark of Donald Trump, talking about Republican Party, talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks for the top two tenths of 1 percent, cuts to Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid, a party which with few exceptions doesn't even acknowledge the reality of climate change, let alone do anything about it, a party which is not prepared to stand with women in the fight for pay equity, a party that is not prepared to do anything about a broken criminal justice system or a corrupt campaign finance system, I think, to be honest with you—and I just don't, you know, say this rhetorically, this is a fringe party. It is a fringe party. Maybe they get 5, 10 percent of the vote.

bizarre theory imo

Maybe they get 5, 10 percent of the vote.

hahahahahahahahahahaaaaa

I believe that was meant to be in his alternate universe where the media adopts the strategy he mentions, not like an actual real-world prediction.

that is also ridiculous

I mean maybe a little less ridiculous given it's a hypothetical but still totally divorced from reality

it's almost as if he missed the last couple decades where the right-wing decided our current corporate owned media was populated by a bunch of radical leftists and retreated to the safe seas of talk radio and fox news.