Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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yeah, i'm all too aware of them! i must have used a vague phrasing upthread (imagine that!) but i was trying to say that there has already been a ton of violence at trump rallies, and i'm concerned that the violence will begin spreading beyond that, meaning, beyond trump-specific rallies.

I really have no idea what/who Trump/Cruz supporters will direct their violence against but I wouldn't recommend travelling to Cleveland during that period of time.

no, I missed "and beyond" in your post, which greatly changes the meaning of what you wrote into something insane

eww at the idea coming into Nixon

*the idea of coming into Nixon

bhahahaha

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/memo-explains-how-donald-trump-plans-to-pay-for-border-wall/2007/?tid=a_inl

y'know, it's about time we had another war with Mexico

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djp, do you mean that you think the idea of trump-related violence spreading beyond his rallies is insane (hope you're right if that's the case), or that the increasing violence itself is insane (that i agree with)?

or that the idea of coming into nixon is insane. i suppose there are multiple correct answers here

omg at trump's wall plan

Interesting bit on Trump's criminalizing abortion, that he inadvertently voiced the action aims of all this shit that gave the lie to what's called the Standard Answer whenever a pro-lifer is pointedly asked about going after the women

bhahahaha

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/memo-explains-how-donald-trump-plans-to-pay-for-border-wall/2007/?tid=a_inl

y'know, it's about time we had another war with Mexico

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1

lol it looks like an intern punched a few ideas into Notepad.

it's like a gamergate comments thread turned its collective brainpower and expert realpolitik to the matter of international diplomacy. really unbelievable.

I have to love the "Conclusion: and another thing.."

djp, do you mean that you think the idea of trump-related violence spreading beyond his rallies is insane (hope you're right if that's the case), or that the increasing violence itself is insane (that i agree with)?

Not knowing that protesters were being beaten up regularly at Trump rallies is insane. (The violence in and of itself is also insane. I also expect that it will spread like wildfire regardless of who the Republican nominee is.)

I love the implication that the US has borne far more of the costs of the drug war, both in terms of money spent and lives lost, than Mexico, so viciously ignorant.

xp

this whole election has been bonkers. i'm rooting for the fantasy scenario of dozens of a contested convention where no candidate can manage to get the majority of delegate votes, and as a result the GOP decides to peacefully disband.

obama's really relishing his first opportunity to play above the fray

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/02/world/middleeast/obama-nuclear-security-summit-iran.html

"The person who made the statements doesn't know much about foreign policy or nuclear policy or the Korean Peninsula or the world generally," Obama told a news conference Friday.

I'm looking forward to Obama interjecting himself into the campaign tbh, should be interesting

gulp

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/275084-models-predict-gop-white-house-even-with-trump

lol economic models

lol thehill.com

y'know, it's about time we had another war with Mexico

sad that sam peckinpah didn’t live to see this day

I find pretty much everything Trump says mindboggling and/or exasperating, and I feel like a low-level anger at his existence and popularity, but something about his explanation about funding the wall is making me fucking livid. We're going to extort another country into paying for something ridiculous that "benefits" us by threatening the livelihood of its citizenry? It's fucking ludicrous and unfeasible and so base-level "I don't give a fuck about anybody". Fuck this guy. May he pass peacefully in his sleep as soon as possible.

my college-freshman students are working on persuasive policy speeches and if one of them handed in that trump 'policy paper' i'd give them a C at best.

was that trump's actual policy proposal or was that the zimmermann telegram? i can't tell.

anyway, if there is a screwjob of trump in cleveland, i think it'll have to be cruz. i mean, really, is there anybody else you'd trust to pull off a screwjob like that?

Bernie hasn't lived here in 50 years, i'll give him a pass on the subway moxie

A friend ran into Bob Dole in NC about ten years ago, who asked him about the trolleys in Brooklyn

i too wish for cruz to give trump the ol screwjob in cleveland

never forget

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/357927/11632434/1302271590587/George+Bush+Barcode+Scanner+92.jpg?token=6Jip5TSVx9wfJbsNY9H0viQPjsM%3D

i did not know that jon polito was involved in that incident.

anyway, if there is a screwjob of trump in cleveland

Something something "_Trump_ screwed Trump"

Love Poppy's glasses.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/275084-models-predict-gop-white-house-even-with-trump

― goole, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:21 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was hoping this would be fashion models giving their perspective. i have one friend who is a model. he vastly underestimates the dangers of trump, in my view.

one of those folks who's like, "he's just trying to get the people going. if he were president he would be awful, but no more awful than an ordinary republican."

Yeah, he's just trying to get the people going like a gallon of gasoline is just trying to get the fire going.

charming!

Roger Stone, an informal adviser to Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump, said Monday that in the event of a contested GOP convention he planned to disclose where delegates are staying in Cleveland so that Trump supporters could give them a piece of their mind.

Stone issued a scathing condemnation of the GOP nomination process in an interview on Freedomain Radio, and urged Trump's supporters to "march on Cleveland" if delegates were to "steal" the nomination from the real estate mogul.

"Join us in the Forest City. We're going to have protests, demonstrations," Stone said. "We will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in the steal. If you're from Pennsylvania, we'll tell you who the culprits are. We urge you to visit their hotel and find them."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/roger-stone-steal-trump-nomination

murder delegates in their sleep, classic

one of those folks who's like, "he's just trying to get the people going. if he were president he would be awful, but no more awful than an ordinary republican."

― Treeship, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:21 PM (29 minutes ago)

i still believe this btw *shrug*

i think it's possible, but i also think the election of trump has repercussions beyond what trump would actually do in office.

as the gop frontrunner his xenophobic remarks regarding Mexicans and Muslims and his "policy" "ideas" of creating a wall along the border and barring Muslims from entering the U.S. will already be having a real world effect on people belonging to or perceived to be belonging to those groups. If he were POTUS this would no doubt be exacerbated. He legitimizes bigotry.

one of those folks who's like, "he's just trying to get the people going. if he were president he would be awful, but no more awful than an ordinary republican."

― Treeship, Tuesday, April 5, 2016

which is pretty awful

btw Dem debate on 4/14 will be held at the Duggal Greenhouse in the Brooklyn Navy Yard

no argument here. but i think there is something uniquely dangerous about the type of storm trump is brewing among his supporters.

oh sick brooklyn navy yard

Linked From Southern Poverty Law Center's email newsletter---he can't even make up his own shit (or refrains from it, when he wants to push just the right buttons, wired to Truest Believers):
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/04/04/numbers-donald-trump-continues-mainstream-white-nationalist-memes

OMG @ that Roger Stone quote. That's practically an incitement of physical violence against specific individuals.

Love that he refers to Cleveland as "the Forest City".

OMG @ that Roger Stone quote. That's practically an incitement of physical violence against specific individuals.

― I am very inteligent and dicipline boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's taking a page from the militant "pro-life" folks. "we're publishing the names and addresses of these abortionists. not that you should do anything about that. it's just, you know, information. hint hint."

Love that he refers to Cleveland as "the Forest City".

― through a charles barkley (brownie), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:40 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i grew up there and i have never heard that term

when i think of cleveland, my mind conjures images of dense bodies of tall, tall trees.