Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/275084-models-predict-gop-white-house-even-with-trump

― goole, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:21 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was hoping this would be fashion models giving their perspective. i have one friend who is a model. he vastly underestimates the dangers of trump, in my view.

one of those folks who's like, "he's just trying to get the people going. if he were president he would be awful, but no more awful than an ordinary republican."

Yeah, he's just trying to get the people going like a gallon of gasoline is just trying to get the fire going.

charming!

Roger Stone, an informal adviser to Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump, said Monday that in the event of a contested GOP convention he planned to disclose where delegates are staying in Cleveland so that Trump supporters could give them a piece of their mind.

Stone issued a scathing condemnation of the GOP nomination process in an interview on Freedomain Radio, and urged Trump's supporters to "march on Cleveland" if delegates were to "steal" the nomination from the real estate mogul.

"Join us in the Forest City. We're going to have protests, demonstrations," Stone said. "We will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in the steal. If you're from Pennsylvania, we'll tell you who the culprits are. We urge you to visit their hotel and find them."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/roger-stone-steal-trump-nomination

murder delegates in their sleep, classic

one of those folks who's like, "he's just trying to get the people going. if he were president he would be awful, but no more awful than an ordinary republican."

― Treeship, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:21 PM (29 minutes ago)

i still believe this btw *shrug*

i think it's possible, but i also think the election of trump has repercussions beyond what trump would actually do in office.

as the gop frontrunner his xenophobic remarks regarding Mexicans and Muslims and his "policy" "ideas" of creating a wall along the border and barring Muslims from entering the U.S. will already be having a real world effect on people belonging to or perceived to be belonging to those groups. If he were POTUS this would no doubt be exacerbated. He legitimizes bigotry.

one of those folks who's like, "he's just trying to get the people going. if he were president he would be awful, but no more awful than an ordinary republican."

― Treeship, Tuesday, April 5, 2016

which is pretty awful

btw Dem debate on 4/14 will be held at the Duggal Greenhouse in the Brooklyn Navy Yard

no argument here. but i think there is something uniquely dangerous about the type of storm trump is brewing among his supporters.

oh sick brooklyn navy yard

Linked From Southern Poverty Law Center's email newsletter---he can't even make up his own shit (or refrains from it, when he wants to push just the right buttons, wired to Truest Believers):
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/04/04/numbers-donald-trump-continues-mainstream-white-nationalist-memes

OMG @ that Roger Stone quote. That's practically an incitement of physical violence against specific individuals.

Love that he refers to Cleveland as "the Forest City".

OMG @ that Roger Stone quote. That's practically an incitement of physical violence against specific individuals.

― I am very inteligent and dicipline boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's taking a page from the militant "pro-life" folks. "we're publishing the names and addresses of these abortionists. not that you should do anything about that. it's just, you know, information. hint hint."

Love that he refers to Cleveland as "the Forest City".

― through a charles barkley (brownie), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:40 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i grew up there and i have never heard that term

when i think of cleveland, my mind conjures images of dense bodies of tall, tall trees.

i think of Ten Cent Beer Night

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30826/date-1974-clevelands-ten-cent-beer-night-went-horribly-wrong

http://ohiowins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/10centbeernight.jpg

also, the awesome lapdance i got there about 8 years ago.

ten-cent-beer-night-went-horribly-wrong

kind of hard to imagine any other outcome...

on first glance i assumed bill veeck had something to do with that

no that was Disco Demolition Night in Chi, five (?) years later

"The Forest City" is an antiquated enough nickname for Cleveland that by the time I was in junior high school most people just knew "Forest City" as a furniture store.

How did Morbs get a pic of the GOP convention when it hasn't even started yet?

Trumpist Night at the Ballgame

hey remember when rick perry put glasses on?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/05/trump-plans-a-series-of-policy-speeches/

Donald Trump speaks during a news conference at the at the Old Post Office Pavilion, soon to be a Trump International Hotel, in Washington on March 21. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
GOP front-runner Donald Trump, facing a likely setback in Tuesday's Wisconsin primary, plans to shift gears in the coming weeks, and give a series of policy speeches in settings more formal than the freewheeling rallies that have become his political signature.

Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said in an interview Tuesday that a memo published by The Washington Post detailing how Trump plans to get Mexico to pay for his proposed border wall is a prelude to a series of moves that flesh out the policies that Trump has been speaking about in general terms in his rallies and in interviews.

oh fucking shit i'm sorry about that

MODS HELP

wonder how many of those policy speeches his son-in-law is gonna write

i was like "jeez finally a candidate ready to talk about crosswords"

his mexico plan is nuts. of course it would be, but, it's nuts.

April 9
Wyoming holds it Democratic caucuses.

April 19
New York holds it primaries.

that's copy/pasted from washpo? that actually makes me feel better about my own neverending series of typos and missing words

wait can we go back to the news that Trump's buying Mexico

how ready for a take are you guys right now?

https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/717341020250370048

that NY Daily News interview with Bernie isn't that bad i thought. it's always been obviously he's not the sharpest dude but i don't think the interviewer got him to say anything too awful?

yeah, i don't think ppl like him bc of his incisive detailed plans. they're probably ok with "this is the general goal and we'll figure it out once we get there" as an answer. if he was running as a technocrat it would be a disaster, but he's not.

"it's always been obviously he's not the sharpest dude"

I would like to thank you for this amazing thumbnail of the general ILX level of self-estimation

Neither Braynard nor Lewandowski commented when asked whether Braynard left of his own accord or was fired. Sources say his top lieutenant in the campaign’s data shop, a former RNC data engineer named Witold Chrabaszcz, was elevated at least temporarily to run the team. Chrabaszcz, who goes by “Vito,” declined to comment. While he is regarded as a savvy manipulator of data, he’s largely unknown in the tight-knit world of GOP data strategists. He seldom worked on political strategy at the RNC and mostly interacted with the party’s other data engineers, a group known as the “basement dwellers.”

I mean obv we don't have a lockdown on the general Internet "get a brain morans" tendency but

it's the best basement though, really, the best, just yuge.

1) lol at putting a *data engineer* in a political strategy position

2) lol at taking a job where you are abused by polisci interns when you could be earning $200k

My point is not Sanders specific, btw, I'm just saying that if you spend large portions of your day on here, odds are you are not smarter than people who have ascended to the point of running for president of the United States. Ok maybe Webb, Santorum, and Rick Perry.

perhaps of interest

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/1976-convention-oral-history-213793#ixzz44zONlUTo

anyone seen the best man (1964)? gore vidal film about a brokered convention, with henry fonda, etc. alfred do you recommend?

My point is not Sanders specific, btw, I'm just saying that if you spend large portions of your day on here, odds are you are not smarter than people who have ascended to the point of running for president of the United States.

― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:28 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why?

i'm not alfred, but i do like that movie!

xpost

anyone seen the best man (1964)? gore vidal film about a brokered convention, with henry fonda, etc. alfred do you recommend?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, April 5, 2016

I'd recommend, yes, and would watch with you and goole

the sequel isn't very good, though

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/The_Best_Man_Holiday.jpg

Times change.

"de l'asshole (flopson)
Posted: April 5, 2016 at 4:36:09 PM
My point is not Sanders specific, btw, I'm just saying that if you spend large portions of your day on here, odds are you are not smarter than people who have ascended to the point of running for president of the United States.

― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:28 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why?"

Just as a first clarification, it's not you specific either, and I don't want it to come off that way, but come on, Ilx/the Internet in general is full of the archetypical "the smartest guy in the room" dudes. (And yeah, I'm def using specific male terms there). The truth is we...probably aren't? Add the political rhetoric of "people I disagree with are clearly stupid/flawed, and not rationally opposed" and you've got a heady breeding ground for special snowflake moments.

"smarter" is a contentious term + if it includes things like social savvy, ambition, cleverness, common sense, etc then i'm sure jjj is right that anyone getting that close to the WH is smarter than me. i assumed flopson meant more like bernie isn't an "intellectual" which smarter is like often shorthand for and i'd agree that he isn't really (but how many presidents are actually intellectuals? obama. hillary seems a little wonkish. cruz seems frighteningly intelligent. otherwise...)