https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjBwe6IL10o
― real orgone kid (NickB), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link
Would Whale fit in here?
― MaresNest, Monday, 11 April 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link
Space monkeys!
― lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 11 April 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pURJDToKA0k
― i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Monday, 11 April 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link
I remember buying Curve's third album and the CD inside was actually The Space Monkeys, which was a trenchant piece of situationist rock crit from the record store I think.
― Tim F, Monday, 11 April 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link
does 2001 count (Vanilla Sky)?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4v1fkylL3s
― campreverb, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 01:00 (eight years ago) link
yeah, the cutoff for this is pretty nebulous, I always think 2003 but that number is pulled out of my ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mecyPAqZbc0
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 02:23 (eight years ago) link
s/number/year (this is what happens when I am too busy listening to youtube to proofread)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 02:24 (eight years ago) link
I love Where do I Begin, but that came out in 1997 on a hugely popular record, so it certainly counts for the thread.
― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 02:29 (eight years ago) link
This made me put on Dig Your Own Hole for the first time in, idk, more than a decade. This record fucking bangs!
― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 02:49 (eight years ago) link
this was used in a low budget brit gore movie.cannot recall the name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCkKj59YG8
― mark e, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 08:44 (eight years ago) link
oh, and i love that transister album.
amazing to think its brains behind the lovely FM pop of Danny Wilson.
― mark e, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 08:47 (eight years ago) link
This is my new favorite thread.
― how's life, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 11:34 (eight years ago) link
i don't really get the in/out lines here, but i loved this song at the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsDmhprjOHo
^ produced by we™ (i think). problem for me is that most of the mid-to-late-'90s alt-ish electronic stuff i like has not so much rock in it. like this eve/fatboy slim "cowboy" from the blade ii soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-pHKRyuPqE
or this one weird monkey mafia remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTds_YqoX_M&nohtml5=False
― Keks + Nuss (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 12:46 (eight years ago) link
this fits the bill methinks :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTokduMQYfw
― mark e, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 12:59 (eight years ago) link
This is actually the definitive Bif Naked tune for this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FksHZFBCetE
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 13:17 (eight years ago) link
Thread needs some Poe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAVgJQVo2oE&nohtml5=False
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link
Oh no! This is the version I meant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cujypawzVQ&nohtml5=False
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 13:20 (eight years ago) link
okay actually these Bif Naked and Poe songs are basically the same song which I never realised until now.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 13:21 (eight years ago) link
Is Ruby's "Tiny Meat" too good for this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErOaxgpGD0&nohtml5=False
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link
if we're not too prescriptive about the electronic component this could also be "bands who could have played at The Bronze" (also b/c I feel like K's Choice's "Not An Addict" fits here thematically if not sonically)
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 13:31 (eight years ago) link
I do think Whale would fit here, though maybe moreso stuff from their second album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytXFgvFem6Y
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 14:52 (eight years ago) link
agree re ruby and whale.actually, i need to try that whale album again - picked up the cd a few months ago and not really given it the attention it requires.
― mark e, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 14:58 (eight years ago) link
Mono, maybe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxBAyupjLNw
This thread could also be called "CDs I picked up for a dollar in the bargain bin."
― A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
mono were very much part of the lounge/trip-hop/e-z groove though weren't they ?
(dont get me wrong, i really like the album .. )
― mark e, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link
They were, but at the pop-rock end of the spectrum. It all got a little blurry in the late '90s.
― A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link
Tim, you are my hero
I haven't clicked every link on here yet, has anyone brought up Poe yet?
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link
oh lol Tim did
you are BEYOND my hero (also I think we had this exact conversation 20 years ago)
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link
thread giving me weird flashbacks to a forgotten prior version of myself
― dc, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link
A few Bran Van 3000 songs would likely fit in this category. And this one was on the soundtrack to Practical Magic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxEV7us8Hfc
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link
from the buffy soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNgwj1psdk8
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link
ahh .. i have the furslide cd hidden deep in the archive somewhere. good call.had production from nelle hooper i think - hence why i was interested.
― mark e, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link
xpost I love that Bran Van 3000 song
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link
Was coming on to post Sneaker Pimps, though 6 Underground rather than Spin Spin Sugar.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
i think 'hold me thrill me kiss me kill me' probably counts here, to some extent.
― nomar, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
These bands were sort of the post-grunge, post-rave, post-hip hop alternative to britpop. Maybe you could view them as some sort of aberrant uncool heirs to the original firstwave post-rock generation of pram, laika, moonshake etc - rock subverted with digital technology usurping the role of the guitar?
― real orgone kid (NickB), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link
The other trend that was connected to this was pop-rock that wanted to sound like it had listened to Beck e.g. Shawn Mullins' "Rockabye" through The Eels' "Novocaine for the Soul".
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCZaMUTP3MM
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link
One Dove are too early for this trend I think? They're kinda credible?
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I was thinking they were more like godmothers of this sound.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link
Imogen Heap's first single, produced by Guy Sigsworth. Oversized motorbike goggles? Check.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwq8Y5z6ckE
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link
esthero? hooverphonic?
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 15 April 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link
man I cannot listen to esthero anymore knowing that they spawned the weeknd
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 16 April 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link
Awesome thread, Katherine. The music and the concept.
No Lack of Credibility = No Credibility!
That Buffy The Vampire Slayer Album got so much play in our house in 1999. Up to December 31st, at least. Plenty of examples appropriate for this thread, as well:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-the-album-mw0000081694
It deserves a reunion concert, really. Preferably with a revolving stage. (So there's no pauses between songs.)
― sbahnhof, Friday, 22 April 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLqeZzTU8I
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S_R13jV11Q
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06W2zTh9ds
https://youtu.be/Lkr_27YYHrA
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOXlJfJ-OgA
Róisín Murphy's face in that still is cracking me up.
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:15 (eight years ago) link
is this electronic enough?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQxgRt1vJgQ
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 03:29 (eight years ago) link
wait i meant this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Gz2WDJibk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D61Sje2Ts4
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 03:30 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa6HVMwTl5U
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 03:34 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydjzF6mJ-9I
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 03:51 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOyAsgalu3I
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 03:57 (eight years ago) link
the frontwoman of this group went on to make "i'm still hot," of covered-by-betty-white-in-a-meme fame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQZhyVAJFNg
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 04:02 (eight years ago) link
I think even before Garbage and/or Republica, this was probably the genesis of the trend (though the lack of guitars being mixed with the electronics might dq it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4MPPOTarDM
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 04:19 (eight years ago) link
^ nah, now that I've skimmed the rest of the thread, I see that's not really what you're going for.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 04:27 (eight years ago) link
Where does Is This Desire? fit into this thread?
― jaymc, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 06:13 (eight years ago) link
Too arty.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 06:14 (eight years ago) link
The Great Expectations soundtrack has Tori Amos' "Siren" which is the perfect example of established artists reacting to this trend.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 06:15 (eight years ago) link
I'd probably circumscribe the time period quite strictly because I do feel like by the end of the 90s the coalition-qualities of the major label notion of "alternative" - music that, regardless of specific genre or sonic affectations, sounded like it was angling for a Spin cover - had totally splintered.
By the time the third Garbage album came out in late 2001 it felt very outmoded.
Other key moments:
1. The Romeo & Juliet soundtrack from the beginning of 2007, with the truly archetypal trip hop remix of Garbage's "#1 Crush";2. The Cruel Intentions soundtrack from March 2001, with the Elizabeth Frazer / Craig Armstrong collabo.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 06:29 (eight years ago) link
Those dates should be early 1997 and March 1999 obv.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 06:30 (eight years ago) link
i was scrolling through this thread for the first time and was like whoa, serendipity when "2wicky" was mentioned, before i noticed the date and remembered that we don't control beyoncé, she controls us
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:30 (eight years ago) link
(isn't trip-hop the elephant in the room here? my memories are indistinct but i recall a lot of "american rock acts trying to recreate trip-hop from a long distance" vibes)
(i'd love to know whether there were any equipment/technology changes that spurred on the electronic experimentation! i've tried to get tori amos to talk about her siren/datura/iieee phase on at least two occasions now but she can be extremely non-specific when she wants)
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:32 (eight years ago) link
great expectations and romeo + juliet soundtracks both feel v key to this - the former is the only place i ever heard poe - but actually returning to the track listings doesn't seem to bear this out? actually both seem kind of grim?
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:34 (eight years ago) link
been a long time since i listened, but i seem to recall suzanne vega adding some electronica/noise/beats to her thing for the "99.9F" album.suspect some of that album would be suitable for this thread ?
― mark e, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:49 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD5O4gdSPro
I big this record up every five years but nobody cares, so here I go again.
Also the Furslide album is brilliant, Jennifer Turner just vanished into the ether after that, which is a huge shame. I own more than two thirds of the records whose YouTubes are in this thread, predictably.
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:59 (eight years ago) link
OMG OMG OMG i remembered the song that is the absolute pinnacle of this aesthetic and also the worst song posted in this thread so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEHKVaASeOg
― Tim F, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0O2-xV5XEA
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:08 (eight years ago) link
Another soundtrack touchstone of this sound was the one for Spawn from '97, which had a Judgement Night-style pairing of Rock & Electronic artists.
http://www.allmusic.com/album/spawn-the-album-mw0000030260
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:56 (eight years ago) link
this is also early 2000s but I made the thread and I say it fits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G71-f08GeDk
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
this just sounds like grizzly bear today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay79zwejwf4
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link
wtf this is what Grizzly Bear sounds like????
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 7 May 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link
the "built around a peppy piano riff" part, silly
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 7 May 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link
i have listened to v little GB and got rly excited for a minute a :/
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 7 May 2016 04:06 (seven years ago) link
that song sounds like a more frivolous Saint Etienne
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 7 May 2016 04:11 (seven years ago) link
three guesses what reminded me of this today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT8PLB-zsV0
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 9 May 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 9 May 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QORg0kMaqRg
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 9 May 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
Not quite sure if this fits this thread, but I've always liked this song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeDs-jZBh5s
― MarkoP, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4mcHfZOX5k
cannot believe it has taken me this long to get to ARCHIVE.
their second album (now disowned by the band) epitomizes this sub-genre.
― mark e, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
there must be something in the air bc i decided to finally try n get into garbage a couple mo. back & was really digging the overarching vibe
weirdly i completely love this aesthetic but the actual execution of it feels extremely spotty to me. IDK if it's just that I wish there was someone to distill the general sensation into something more pop or what but yeah
except for ivy's album which is pretty perfect.
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 7 July 2016 05:06 (seven years ago) link
Of course i was familiar w/ Garbage from high school but i never owned their CDs or anything
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 7 July 2016 05:07 (seven years ago) link
Did we already talk about Curve's "Chinese Burn" and specifically that time Buffy and Faith danced to it at some awesome underground club in a factory (the kind that only exists in video clips, The Matrix and, seemingly, Buffy The Vampire Slayer) in the middle of the day?
― Tim F, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:30 (seven years ago) link
they exist for real in Berlin! Maybe all these ppl are secretly going to Berlin real quick to dance?
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:06 (seven years ago) link
this is the stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM_hkAKujXU
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 14 January 2017 06:52 (seven years ago) link