Come anticipate CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR with me

in a way I'm glad I saw batman vs superman first cuz this is like a masterclass in how to make a film about conflict between allies that feels logical and earned and BvsS was, uh, very much not

black panther gets maybe the same screentime as wonder woman but they manage to give him an entire character arc and he is super-badass. can't wait to see him again.

one of the things I liked most about winter soldier was how crunchy and fierce the fight scenes were and this takes them even further - some of the fight choreography, particularly in the first 20 minutes or so, is amazing.

roll on the us opening so we can talk about this properly :(

totally agree about the fight choreography. and the last fight scene, while i had some misgivings about it on narrative levels, was kinda breathtaking when the camera just stopped moving for a few seconds (probably the longest in the entire movie lol) and REDACTED and REDACTED and REDACTED are just going at it

still feel like the whole civil war concept is a little schmoopy but its much more a logical outgrowth of the plot machinations here than in the comic version

thought the Gettysburg section was a little gratuitous though

I need to stop checking this thread ugh

SPOILERS!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRPoiTHMuzc

the thing that bugged me most about this was the giant futura caption that popped up every time the action moved to a different location - i feel like that specific design is going to date the film quicker than anything else

the more i think about this the more impressed i am that they took the civil war concept and actually made it work so much better than the godforsaken comic which inspired it. pretty much every character's motivation seems logical, no-one is objectively right or wrong, the hero-on-hero fight isn't a grimdark battle to the death (in fact it's probably the most straight-up entertaining section of the movie), and the antagonist's plan is both small-scale and tied to the themes of the movie. plus it also works as a continuation of the bucky plot from winter soldier.

there are some bits that are more transparently driven by the need to set up stuff for other movies than i'd like, primarily the inclusion of spider-man, which is almost entirely unnecessary to the plot, but it's just so much fucking fun to see peter parker doing spider-stuff that it's impossible to hold it against the movie. certainly the setup stuff is nowhere near as intrusive as it was in age of ultron.

damn i wanna see this again

I keep cracking up thinking about the vision's smart-casual attire in this

Vision has long been a fashion plate.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/visionoutfits06a.jpg

he does study a chessboard at one point!

(spoiler alert i guess)

How could u.

I have tix to see this on Monday at a special screening hosted by the Russo Brothers: http://thedaily.case.edu/news/emmy-award-winning-directors-joe-and-anthony-russo-to-host-local-screening-of-marvels-captain-america-civil-war-may-2/

oh wow, awesome!

Saw this last night in a packed venue at the event mentioned above -- it was done as a thank-you by the Russos to Case Western Reserve University, helping them fundraise for the next phase of the new Maltz Performing Arts Center. Had a nice intro by CWRU president Barbara Snyder, and then Anthony Russo talked a bit. Joe Russo was absent as he's apparently got some kind of chest infection from all the traveling they've been doing to overseas premieres.

Russo told some funny anecdotes about their time at CWRU as grad students, including constantly pestering Prof. Louis Gianetti (who film buffs know as the author of the text Understanding Movies) for advice and feedback; and forming a short-lived improv troupe, which they then reviewed in the student paper under the byline of a name they picked from the phone book, and gave themselves a scathingly bad review.

Anyway, I'd love to let lose with some spoilers for this movie, but until people see it this week, just a few non-spoiler observations:

- Russos continue to be great at choreographing and shooting action. You always know where things are happening.
- Despite the amazing number of superheroes in this movie, it feels very human-scale and not "comic-book." That is, the stakes are big but revolve around people, not cosmic or existential threats.
- Paul Rudd remains my #1 man crush.
- There is what I thought was an insanely bad, uncanny valley moment in the movie, then it's lampshaded as being something other than what you thought.
- Daniel Bruhl is underused.
- Black Panther, y'all.
- Peter Parker finally feels like a legitimate teenager.

I am down with that except fuck a Paul Rudd.

The action sequences are great, and the one that starts in an apartment and moves is amazing, half way through I had to remember to breathe - and I'm still smiling at *how* they introduce Black Panther in that sequence. And the balance where you don't believe any of them are invincible, they are dangerous to each other, but they are emphatically not regular humans.

(tempted to put up the spoilers screens to find out more about the uncanny valley you're talking about)

Fuckin chess spoilers can a mod get that pls ffs

What the hell, I guess I'll go see this tonight.

this was so great. no spoilers at all, but one piece of Don Cheadle's dialogue almost made me tear up.

it knew how to offset the more pathos-y moments with the right blend of humor without turning it into a farce.

BvS was a skidmark compared to this. a nutty, corny skidmark

Worth the price of admission just for, "Are you Tony Stank?"

i hope that was the dialogue that made neanderthal tear up

Yeah, great to see Stan Lee turning up in another movie about a character he didn't create

Stan Lee is about a million times luckier than Ringo Starr

The whole audience cheered and applauded at the end of this. Don't think that would have happened at many B vs S screenings... especially in peckham.

The one character that Stan Lee indisputably created by himself is Stan Lee.

Frankly Mr Stank Lee

relax everyone stan lee will be dead soon

Now that Marvel is part of Disney, Stan gets a cryogenic suspension unit next to Walt

he's like the winter soldier now - they only break him out of cryogenic to make cameos in movies

I'll see this this weekend. In the meantime, I volunteer a couple of times a week at the elementary school library, and noticed today that the boys in the kindergarten class (most of whom are still more or less picture book level) were super excited to check out any book with "Civil War" in the title. I think this is a great opportunity for Marvel to get in on cross-promotional education opportunities: they should start affixing important historical events to every movie from here on out. "Spider-Man: Magna Carta." "Iron Man: Japanese Internment Camps." "Ant-Man: Dawn of Genetic Mapping." "Black Panther: Ada Lovelace, First Computer Programmer."

lol Tony Stank was great.

and "can you move your seat up?" "No."

also ws Aunt May

Aunt Tomei

Tomei-aged Aunt May makes way more sense than the traditional Aunt May who is somehow as old as Peter's great great grandmother.

is marisa tomei immortal? srs q

I thought Tony Stark was one of the few characters Stan Lee actually had a significant hand in creating. Well, the idea of a rich arms dealer who was also a superhero, anyway.

Eh, people have kids at odd ages, families have odd gaps between siblings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/06/movies/captain-america-civil-war-review-chris-evans.html

This very crowded, reasonably enjoyable installment in the Avengers cycle reveals, even more than its predecessors, an essential truth about the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It’s not so much a grand science-fiction saga, or even a series of action-adventure movies, as a very expensive, perpetually renewed workplace sitcom.

This left me cold. Peaked about halfway thru with the big airport battle. The rest = zzzzz

Also really tired of these movies all looking the same. Dudes in colorful spandex fighting in anonymous parking structures and shit

Yeah workplace sitcom is about right

that's a feature not a bug etc etc

nouveau work sitcom

If anyone can convince me these movies are actually like JLI or Hitman I promise I will watch them

NB Hero Hotline is not high quality enough, Damage Control is too mired in impenetrably irrelevant Marvel continuity IME

No, these movies aren't actually like JLI or Hitman. For which we can all be thankful.

They're doing a comedic Damage Control TV series at some point.

Good old them.

I've tried my damnedest to figure out who owns the rights to Damage Control but all I've turned up is a web of anonymous holding companies so I'm gonna have to go with 'them' for the time being until more clues come to light about this enduring mystery.

Awww I loved JLI

this was enjoyable. black panther was badass, spidey was great, marisa tomei is still hot af. definitely not as good as winter soldier but it was fine. if you're getting sick of marvel movies though i don't think there's gonna be a lot here for you.