POLICE PROCEDURALS - which are ur faves

Mail readers are thick shocker. They used the same device on the 2 preceding series. It can be an effective wrapper up if used right but seemed to be over some very ham acting here.
Not sure where it's first used in drama but do remember Animal House used it back around 35 or whatever years back. & documentaries use it so it is an idea that's around to borrow, innit?

Jackie admitting she wouldn't have minded or whatever she says under the bridge is really questionable isn't it. Would think that even if she was that poor in taste it would be the last thing she'd admit it under the circumstances. Was there any detectable chemistry between the 2?

Her name's Kate, btw.

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Jackie was the blonde one in Danny's team.

Ok then Kate. Still seemed a bit naff. Unless it was advanced terrorist negotiating skills or something. Thought it would be the last thing she'd want to say.

Did like the actress that played Kate when she was in This is England. Think I felt a lot less sympathy for her in this. But still, that guy seemed a bit of a tosser.

Think it's been said but is it likely that all the Caddy profile would be dictated by Cottan as it was in this? Also the ineptness of his other cover ups. The bounced email for one.
Seemed like some things were overly facile and supposedly covered over by him growling. Which is a bit egomaniacal isn't it?

The profiling "hi dere, I have uncovered a profile which is basically IT'S STEVE ARNOTT" was a dreadful plot device - no evidence as to how that profile had been drawn up. I mean, it's fair enough that as the senior officer he'd get to be in charge of it, but surely he'd have some background rather than a four-bullet-point presentation pointing the finger squarely at Steve?

There was a bit of chemistry between Kate & Dot when she went to his flat, but I'm not sure if that was genuine or whether she was "undercover" then, as she'd gone over Ted's head to authorise some investigation of a fellow AC-12 officer.

I did wonder when she became suspicious of him. I thought the investigation that she had to go elsewhere for the go ahead for might have been Hastings seeming to be subject to Masonic influence.

Watched a couple fo Jack Taylor episodes on Alibi cos it's an Irish Private Eye show filmed here in Galway. It stars that guy who plays the aging swordsman in GoT that follows Daenerys half way across the world only to be turning into stone.

Not sure how old it is cos I saw part of it being filmed on the other side of the park here a few months ago. but could be it's on a 2nd series or something.

Kind of gritty I suppose but it is contained within a semi small town type of city instead of a really 21st century looking one.
Interesting to see locations being used. Also to see how the geographical location has been slightly altered. So a building around the corner from the University is now miles out on a country lane. But I guess you're likely to get that in most things if you know the actual physical locations. Doesn't one of the Dirty Harrys have chases taking part in locations on opposite side of the city that look like they're supposed to be next to each other?

Yeah, the Caddy profile stuff reminded me of Roger Ebert's "idiot plot" concept. ("Any plot containing problems that would be solved instantly if all of the characters were not idiots.") Even infallible Ted seemed like a bit of a credulous shmuck at the end.

Who wouldn't love Ted as a boss, though? He cares *so* much.

Aw you guys are just picking holes for the sake of it now. Dot was a hero and yes Ted was blind to the shoddy basis of the profile because of it. We all know office heroes whose work always seems to get waved through regardless of how thin it actually is. And Dot's stitch-up job on Arnott in the first half was just deliciously evil, like the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.

But yeah when the worm finally started turning, I can't remember the last time I yelled at the TV in approbation that much, mainly after something Ted had said.

Steve getting arrested because of a PowerPoint slide was bit ridic. And surely Dot would have been better off just pocketing the envelope and forgetting the frame-up idea?

I mean, these holes are fun to discuss but they didn't affect my enjoyment of the shows.

I was trying to remember and probably should have just gone back and watched teh end of teh last episode fo the first series. But is there not a comment that Dot makes there to somebody other than Tommy about how he got into the police after starting out as a caddy and being mentored by somebody. Thought it was something that had been said more publicly or to one of the other cops which might have been something taht came back to someone.
Or taht it might be something taht was known about or showed up on a CV for him. but didn't turn out that way.

Who wouldn't love Ted as a boss, though? He cares *so* much.

Yeah, totally. Bit unlikely that Steve was reinstated after the evidence he'd crossed the line with Denton though.

JUst wondering if this was done knowing that the first series would be followed by a second that built on it and so on.
Just could swear that Dot told somebody about how he satrted in the police force at the end of that firs season and presumably that was before he went in to see Tommy.
So wondering if the plotting was set up to build on top of things that were established earlier or if somebody just came along and roughly viewed some existing threads and built on them.

Will try and rewatch that episode end.

I just found the place where he does say that he came in through caddying at a golf course. It's to the dark haired higher up in the scene in the car park straight after an injured Steve has had the meeting in the car with the fugitive Gates.
Not sure how bright that guy was or if he remains in the show much longer after that, & it is in passing in a momentary conversation but would have thought the guy if t was anybody else might just have remembered that he'd actually said it.
Unfortunately he's the only person who hears it at the time and he may have never seen it as anything other than anecdotal. Think the guy wasa bit one dimensional from what I can recall of him.

It's in the same conversation where this guy has asked dot if he'd be interested in sitting the Inspector exam. & says taht it isn't pleasant to step into9 a dead man's shoes.
Thought I'd remembered it throughout the next couple of seasons but couldn't remember exactly who it was said to.

jesus christ second season of Broadchurch was awful, what a waste of 8 hours.

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Didn't think it was that bad, to be honest.

i've definitely wasted more time on worse.

Does "Trapped" fit this thread's remit?

Midway through, it does seem very good.

Trapped was great! My favourite police this year.

I've got one more episode to go and I'd say it is up there with the Killing and the Bridge. Better than Fortitude.

gah so i'm going to have to steal this clearly

Just watched 5 episodes straight of Trapped, yeah I'm feeling this, despite certain tropes. I also enjoyed that Swedish one I forget the name of which was like a police procedural about kidnapped children but with added FOREST SPIRITS or whatever, with the same conspiracy amongst small town elders covering up something in order to sell out to BIG BUSINESS. I mean, I'm only halfway through Trapped, but c'mon...

Jordskott? Enjoyed it though it was a bit "X-Files" for me.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/22/londons-super-recognizer-police-force

bound to be yoinked for a procedural

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/arts/mike-connors-mannix-dies.html?_r=0

In the series, which had its premiere in 1967, Mr. Connors played Joe Mannix, a Korean War veteran of, like Mr. Connors, Armenian descent who sleuthed his way around Los Angeles with flashy cars and a penchant for citing Armenian proverbs.

Unlike many a smooth TV private eye, Mannix took his lumps. The Washington Post, tabulating the wear and tear the character withstood over eight seasons, found that he had endured 17 gunshot wounds and 55 beatings that left him unconscious.

The violence drew criticism in some quarters, but “Mannix” became the most popular crime series on television in an era punctuated by comedies like “All in the Family” and “Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In.” Mr. Connors became one of the highest-paid television actors of the 1970s, and the role brought him four Emmy Award nominations and a Golden Globe Award.

So ... two more episodes until the very end of Broadchurch.

How on earth did we never have a Broadchurch thread? Have I lost all my search skills?

I'M NOT IN THE MOOD FOR YOUR NOISE THIS MORNIN

The Kojack pilot, The Marcus-Nelson Murders--a made-for-TV movie, technically, directed by Joseph Sargent, who did The Taking of Pelham One Two Three a year later--is excellent. Unfortunately, you can't buy it as a standalone.

David tennant looks horrible with facial hair

Good thread, will have to check out some of j's cancelled cop shows (I did see the one about the guy from 1600s NYC, with good but too-brief flashbacks).
A few years ago, my local antenna TV selections incl. very late-night reruns of a couple shows I barely remember from early childhood: Peter Gunn, with a badass instrumental theme song, my first musical experience. Also, going to cigarette commenricals: warm-cool prob hollow-body electric guitar notes, a scale maybe, against Modern Art patterns, with a slicked-haired gumshoe, who looked like an ex-cop, but welcome in the jazz clubs. SCTV's version had him actually up on the bandstand, spying suspects during his sax solos, which was pretty close to Jack Dragnet Webb's movie Pete Wilson's Blues, where he's a bandleader and an informer (LAPDphile Webb was also married to chanteuse Julie London, hubba-hubba).
The other Antenna TV resurrection was Naked City, which started in the late 50s as a relatively tame savvy old-cop. collegiate young cop reduction of the late 40s movie of the same title--which had more spirit and flavor, not noir but kinda Hollywood neo-realist in the funky streets of NYC, which the revamped series updated with some New Frontier exuberance and sensitive liberal melodrama---and as an anthology series, basically, with cops mainly just chasing or coming to the rescue of guest stars, who got most of the action.
Cracker and Prime Suspect are forever, but yall know those. (First series of prequel PS was good except the young Jane is pretty reserved, almost meek, in a way the young *Helen Mirren* never was, like in that movie directed by Michael Powell, her first, I think)

re ageless-detective show, there was just another one of those recently! already canceled i think. i read that the creator swore he wasn't aware of the previous one.

Marcella, series 2, the last 15 minutes, urgh.

I’m probably the only one watching Collateral on NFlix but it’s enjoyable and has my girl Carey in it

kathleen robertson's shoulders are amazing and she has lots of good tuck-hair-behind-ears moments

i totally forgot this show that i watched all of existed until i read this again

the j-lo dirty cop show with ray liotta ('man with large appetites') is decent but i dunno it was getting a bit much as the second season kicked in so i gave up on it for the time being

Collateral was ok, although I have probably muddled it up with the 3000 other things of the same ilk I've watched recently.

(Oh, the pizza guy, the refugees). Carey good, yes.

Yeah it’s purely a time sink. Only watching for Carey

i can't believe they literally had one fbi profiler explain to another on their own same team what exactly rohypnol is and its typical criminal uses in 2005, with zero self-consciousness on the part of the writers

criminal minds has to be the lamest nominally successful police procedural of the past 20 years

Season 2 of broadchurch is weird

Why on earth is danny’s father replicating his son’s killer’s behavior—meeting privately with the young boy?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rinko-kikuchi-star-michael-mann-hbo-max-series-tokyo-vice-1282655

aaaahhhhh yes please will watch

but wtf is hbo max?

who knows, stealing it anyway

otm

Mare Of EastTown is v good so far

Kate Winslets character reminds me a bit of Happy Valley main character ie beaten down divorced cop grandmother w dead kid

the story is different but has that kind of vibe, bleakness & good writing but more wry humor in this

also guy pearce doing a+ silver fox work as always

literally everyone is suspicious & fairly convincingly so, def scratches a whodunnit itch if you have one

(on hbomoax, 2 eps up so far, weekly)

yeah this is great, except for the montage showing the local kids all being interviewed which was really jarring in tone, like something out of a quirky indie comedy. But I'm in this for the long haul