"Oldchella"

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I saw a Rolling Stones cover band that was decent once, but Mini Kiss opened for them and I arrived too late to see them. Mini not-Gene Simmons stuck out his tongue and flipped me off, though.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

shit, and apparently Mini-Gene died. See your idols while you still can, folks

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

He's been exploring this insane Coltrane-esque fingerpicking thing since the late '90s. The setlist won't surprise you, but his playing will.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, May 3, 2016 2:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh he def waxed poetic about fahey in the bbc doc maybe it's coming out in his playing now

Atomic Punks the DLR era Van Halen tribute band rules

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

Musical Box, the Genesis one, is so good even Genesis is a fan. They even had, for a while (still?) a balding left-handed drummer-singer Phil impersonator! That's got to be tough, to find a guy who looks like Phil, sounds like Phil, plays drums left handed and is actually really good.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

lol... i saw them once, he sang lead vocals on one song near the end of the show and then when the peter gabriel guy came back out, someone in the audience shouted 'be careful, he's good, he might take your job' and it was a funny genesis-joke for all

• (sleepingbag), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link

Aw cuet :)

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

musical box are fantastic, I've seen them three times now doing different tours.

akm, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

apparently several of these pink floyd tribute bands are great, since the main attraction at a pink floyd show is the lights, lasars, and atmosphere.

akm, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

I was wondering how Roger Waters became a legit stadium stand-in for Pink Floyd, but then again an Australian Pink Floyd band sold out a 4,000-seat theater in my town.

Standing pit: $1,599

GET IN THE PIT

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 23:40 (eight years ago) link

Where will everyone stay? Old person camping?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 00:55 (eight years ago) link

Roger Waters toured Dark Side and toured The Wall. Both of those were pretty major.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 00:58 (eight years ago) link

Same place they stay for YXChella? I'm staying in Palm Springs (hypothetically speaking).

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 04:50 (eight years ago) link

The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, the Who, Roger Waters and Neil Young

I saw most of these at festivals and they were generally pretty underwhelming. Paul McCartney was good when he was playing Beatles songs, but then he'd talk between songs and it was like listening to a really uncool uncle. Bob Dylan was absolutely terrible. The Who were mediocre, although seeing them in lashing rain at the end of a very tough Glastonbury probably didn't help. Roger Waters was actually pretty great in Roskilde doing Dark Side. I can see the Rolling Stones doing a good show though, and Neil Young annoying the boomers with 2 hours of howling feedback.

the_ecuador_three, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 08:07 (eight years ago) link

Waters @ Roskilde was amazing for the Dark Side part and Shine On, but his solo material and political speaches were silly - I liked the Dylan show (1st time I saw him), but agree completely that his sets aren't meant for stadiums

2006 was a good year @ roskilde:

http://www.festivalhistorik.dk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/koncertliste-2006.jpg

where are you from ecuador?

niels, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 09:56 (eight years ago) link

It would be awesome of this line-up was McCartney, Dylan, Stones, Neil, Waters, Who and Tool.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:01 (eight years ago) link

Waters, the only one of these I haven't seen, is easily odd man out imo. I would have subbed The Dead (obv) and shuffled the "openers." Then again, I also would have done crazy things like suggest that we not limit this thing to white/male/"rock" artists.

My festival...
Thu: Dylan -> Joni (ok, she's never performing again, fine; Lucinda and/or Los Lobos -> Bruce, maybe) -> Neil
Fri or Sat: Sleater-Kinney or Courtney Barnett -> PJ Harvey -> The Who -> Chuck Berry mini-set (ok, he's never performing again; Jerry Lee, maybe) -> Buddy Guy and guests (Clapton) -> The Stones
Fri or Sat: Vampire Weekend -> Paul Simon and friends (and/or Randy Newman with orchestra) -> Brian Wilson -> Stevie Wonder -> Macca
Sun: Aretha with Steve Cropper, Booker T, etc. -> Van Morrison -> this Santana/Shorter/Hancock "Mega Nova" thing -> The Dead

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:34 (eight years ago) link

no Art Garfunkel no credibility

indie fresh (m coleman), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link

as a card-carrying baby boomer born in the late 50s - not an AARP card mind you - this does not appeal and not only because I saw the Who in 1975 etc etc

indie fresh (m coleman), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link

I've seen all of them except Macca and The Who, and Neil was by far the best. The Stones were fantastic during the first and last 20mins of their set and slumped into interminable soloing drag and dodgy new songs in the middle.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link

where are you from ecuador?

Eh Ireland... the Ecuador Three was the brand name of an awful tent I owned that became an in-joke among my friends and then a name I put on some music.

Yes, that was a good Roskilde - me and my friends had gone to Glastonbury a couple of times before that but wanted somewhere warmer and drier. It was great fun booing Axl Rose when he came out an hour late too. Bob Dylan was the same Roskilde. I don't remember any speechifying from Waters tbh.

The year after we decided to go smaller and ended up in France for the two day Garden Nef Party which was about 60 euro including camping which was a great price for a host of bands that are sure to feature in Oldchella in 30 years time (plus some lousy blog rock):

http://www.01audio-video.com/garden-nef-party-festival-2007.jpg

The funny thing was the locals in that part of France didn't care for Arcade Fire at all, but were amazed that a band as famous as Muse would play their little town.

the_ecuador_three, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 16:30 (eight years ago) link

just letting Eazy know i'm stealing his DJ Gene Hackman line

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

really, i think Beatty & Hoffman should revive their Ishtar duo for this.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link

the strokes in 2016 are a nostalgia band p much

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link

well yeah

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link

way xxpost – The bald Phil Collins impersonator who played in the Musical Box left to start his own Phil tribute; and he was the singer in Daryl Stuermer's touring band, speaking of weird cash grabs.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

thanking you

The bald Phil Collins impersonator (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link

thanking you again

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

Wait so the fake Phil Collins left fake Genesis to have a fake solo career? That is the greatest.

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/may/12/desert-trip-festival-sells-out-rolling-stones-paul-mccartney-roger-waters-bob-dylan-the-who-neil-young

Billboard estimates the gross revenues from ticket sales at $150m (£104m). Last year’s highest grossing festival was Coachella – run by the same people who are putting on Desert Trip, on the same site near Palm Springs, California – which made $84.26m over two weekends, according to Forbes. Desert Trip would be, comfortably, the highest-grossing event in music history.
As well as ticket sales, the organisers will be making money from ancillary activities such as selling licenses for catering and luxury camping. Desert Trip promises “over 30 culinary masterminds” providing food, as well as assorted catering packages starting at $129 per person per day.
Desert Trip, with its likely appeal to a prosperous audience of baby boomers, has charged premium prices. The 35,000 reserved seats for each weekend sold for between $699 and $1,599, while general admission was $399. The last tickets to sell out were the $199 day passes.

ulysses, Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link

Bet it will also be on HBO or YouTube or somewhere, licensed for a ton.

Yung Chella (Eazy), Thursday, 12 May 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

with $150 mil could they build a giant retractable air con dome over Coachella? that would rule

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 May 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link

Holy shit @ the $$$ from tickets

badg, Thursday, 12 May 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

Holy shit at selling out so fast. I thought they were dreaming that they could get Coachella type attendance numbers for this.

nickn, Friday, 13 May 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

So many old rich boomers in l.a. of course it sold out

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 May 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

lol that the last seats to sell were the cheapest tickets.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 May 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link

Well, one day at $199 vs 3 days at $399, so really the weekend tickets were cheaper. Also, are we sure only boomers are buying these? I'll bet there's a good selection of 20-somethings in the mix.

nickn, Friday, 13 May 2016 04:09 (seven years ago) link

the lines at the catering tents are going to be so miserable

Neil still torches 90% of the rock bands that okay Coachella, plus Coachella is alreadyin the nostalgia biz with LCD and shit like that every year

― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

LCD Soundsystem is an American rock band from Brooklyn, New York, formed in 2002.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 13 May 2016 05:09 (seven years ago) link

exactly

tay.ai fan (seandalai), Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

most years of coachella, back to the beginning, had a "reunion show" or semi-retro act in one of the headliner slots

most music festivals buffer their ticket sales in some way, but they really built on that formula. smaller ones in the midwest that are supposed to be "indie" or w/e end up having a jam band headliner or afternoon heavy with that shit because jam band ppl will indiscriminately go to anything with jam bands

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

On another note, I still have nightmares about the dude I talked to at coachella who was like, "yeah, Prince is pretty cool, not really my thing, but..." who then proceeded to wax philosophically about Jack Johnson and how cool his set was for about five minutes

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

The guy from LCD Soundsystem has more gray hair than anyone from Oldchella

beamish13, Sunday, 15 May 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

I wonder how much the person who is paid to iron the acts before they go onstage is getting?

Turrican, Sunday, 15 May 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

yeah nothing nostalgic about LCD who definitely sound nothing like the Talking Heads. "indie" ppl definitely won't "indiscriminately" go to anything with "indie" bands, and no "jambands" are "independent" or anything. festival-goers in general won't "indiscriminately" go to these package-deal festivals with often-competing acts playing typically-abbreviated sets in often-unideal conditions without examining whether the price (before lodging, etc.) is less or more than they'd pay for the acts individually. however overpriced or not, though (i fortunately or otherwise got shut out and don't patronize secondary markets), the oldchella tickets aren't substantially more expensive than those for coachella (which was $379 GA, $835 VIP this year) or most other major festivals, they were definitely bought by a healthy number of young people both for themselves and for family trips, and the cheapest (3-day) tickets were the first to sell, not the last.

"most years" of coachella have not "had a 'reunion show' or semi-retro act in one of the headliner slots" - that's only been true of 5-6 of 17 festivals. the first 8 iterations were straightforward "alternative rock" festivals on the lollapalooza model, albeit with a greater penchant for Euro(/pop?) acts. there then followed a few years in which a confluence of factors - bigger budgets, package deals with the parent company's touring division, and rising competition from other major festivals like decidedly non-"alternative" Bonnaroo - led to the booking of less "alternative"-identified and often older "classic-rock" or for lack of a better word "bro" (which may misdescribe the gender balance of their audience) headliners like Waters and Jack Johnson (and Prince) in '08, Macca (and perhaps The Killers) in '09, The Who (replaced by Jay-Z pre-announcement) in '10, Kings of Leon in '11, and perhaps Black Sabbath (replaced by Dre and Snoop pre-announcement) in '12. but the Coachella people were also capturing additional revenues by following the segmentation by taste and age of the market, spinning off Stagecoach in 2007, hosting the Phish festival in '09 and the Big 4 in '11, and planning from 2012 for non-Coachella festivals including this one in obtaining additional land and permits in Indio and elsewhere (a site in Orange County that's never really gotten off the ground, and the recent deal for Rose Bowl access that looks like it will lead to a new festival next June). simultaneously, the festival was establishing itself as a brand that could sell independent of the lineup, with 2010's attendance record followed by 2011's first-time sellout in less than a week (a week, lol), and the lineup accordingly got smaller-time and somewhat indier or at least newer at the top. my suspicion is that they could have booked any of the Oldchella acts at Coachellas (or Stagecoaches) between then and now, like when they semi-publicly negotiated with the Stones in what i'm not sure wasn't kabuki theatre for 2013, but held off with the intention to produce something of this sort because they didn't have to book any of those acts to sell out an increasingly young- (and less male-)skewing festival that wants to see relative contemporaries like Drake and Calvin Harris, who are going to sell to that audience for much longer, or so their people hope. even the older/reunion headliners they've booked since - AC/DC, GNR, Outkast, the Stone Roses - are relatively young (and as much or more 'hard' or 'alt' than 'classic") compared to these guys; it's Gen Xers and late boomers who are now the old folks. maybe this is a one-time thing, but i expect that you'll see more non-Coachella Coachellas, whether in Indio or Pasadena, with the likes of Stevie Wonder, Bruce/Tom Petty, Brian Wilson, etc. in following years.

normcore strengthening exercises (benbbag), Sunday, 15 May 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

gab how many music fests have you been to

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link

I need at least 1k words, no just posting digits here

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link


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