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Also, who gets custody of the dog, Django?

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

figured OM was the kind of place that had carved out enough of a niche over the years to keep on keepin on. i guess not, though 21 years is a good run for a record store. always loved going there when i was in NYC, and apropos of this thread, loved contributing blurbs the last couple years. actually found a lot of the writers extremely insightful, and liked getting the weekly newsletter ...

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

figured OM was the kind of place that had carved out enough of a niche over the years to keep on keepin on.

yea me too

marcos, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

And I just got the email. Ned always has the scoop.

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

it was a neat place but tbh i never really felt like they were friendly there

marcos, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

People always say that, but I never felt it. Perhaps my shell had already been hardened at Bleecker Bob's and Kim's Video but they didn't give us nearly the 'tude that you could find at other places. I mean God forbid you ask the guys at J&R for help.

And I just got the email. Ned always has the scoop.

Well except for that one time when ilxor Wiggy Woo...

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

Raise your hand if you ever owned the OM coin purse.

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

*raises hand*

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

time to file other music in the "then" section

karla jay vespers, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

i don't really get to NYC anymore but i used to always make a point of going there

the other place i used to hit (rock in your head) is also gone

RIP NYC

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

I even saw Momus play at OM.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

bitterly hilarious what will probably go in the OM space ... and be profitable! some shitty cupcake place with lines wrapping around the corner most likely.

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

the other place i used to hit (rock in your head) is also gone

Right, when I couldn't really get to Other Music any more I went there instead. I feel like I single-handedly kept it alive for a few months extra until its curtailed last stand at the Williamsburg location. I believe Ilxor Ian/orion is very good friends with at least one of the dudes that worked there.

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

bitterly hilarious what will probably go in the OM space ... and be profitable! some shitty cupcake place with lines wrapping around the corner most likely.

― tylerw, Monday, May 9, 2016 12:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Other Frozen Yogurt

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

How many people remember when Rocks In Your Head also had a yogurt shop- inside the record store?

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

Fond memory of consigning my early aughts solo noise disc there and the buyer running outside to flag down N1ck from YYYs to tell him that they'd sold out of the 10 copies of the ep he'd consigned earlier that week. He looked so happy and surprised. Nice moment...
Fast forward 13 years and I just bought my own disc off discogs cause I never kept one. It arrived with an Other Music price sticker on it.

Yelploaf, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

really sad to hear this. i think i've managed to visit once a year, every year since it opened and always picked up great stuff. i will get one more chance to visit and say goodbye before it closes.

stirmonster, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

I go all the time. What's most sad to me is that it's not just rent, that they don't seem interested in taking the brand to a more affordable location and keep it going.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

yeah i'm sure they considered it, but who knows, maybe the owners are just burnt out ... 21 years is a long time. kind of surprised they aren't keeping the mail order thing going, seems like they must've made some cash off of that. at least they made some cash off of me with that ...

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

They were my fourth stop when I was regularly buying music in NYC:

1) Mondo Kim's (the city's best used CD section)
2) Tower on 4th & Broadway (incredible jazz section)
3) Downtown Music Gallery (out jazz shit that neither of the other two had)
4) Other Music (if I couldn't find what I wanted anywhere else - also, they sold tickets for shows at Tonic)

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 9 May 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

You never went to Rockit Scientist and let him try to sell you an overpriced Zeppelin boot?

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

sorry to hear about another record store biting the dust. Have to say I hadn't been there in years (Kim's going was a bigger thing to me). In Manhattan, now I guess it's just Academy Records, Generation (for metal esp), and like, Best Buy? Guess I should visit DMG before it goes too!

Dominique, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

Bleecker St is still open, right?

flappy bird, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

There's still Good Records, and Academy in Manhattan has two locations, Turntable Lab, various others... this isn't counting Brooklyn

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

Bleecker St and some of the other(s?) in that area have inflated prices. Other Music had realistic market value based prices.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

yeah i'm sure they considered it, but who knows, maybe the owners are just burnt out ... 21 years is a long time. kind of surprised they aren't keeping the mail order thing going, seems like they must've made some cash off of that. at least they made some cash off of me with that ...

― tylerw, Monday, May 9, 2016 1:40 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm just saying that's the biggest part of the shock for me, as I'm used to many of the stronger NYC stores just moving to new locations rather than calling it quits.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

i never shopped there. i always went to Tower.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

you know, in the 90's, when i found myself in that vicinity.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

Tower was awesome.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

also discount Tower store. awesome.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

i miss tower... and virgin in union square

flappy bird, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

assuming this means the other music label is shutting down too, which is too bad -- they put out some great stuff, especially the xylouris white and 75 dollar bill records ...

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

No, thing I read said they are keeping the label going.

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Remember the prior label that they were involved in, Omplatten?

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Bought so much from them over the years. Made friends with many of the folks there and was honored when they gave my music its own little section a couple years ago. Fuck NYC mach 2016.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

wait, what section was that, if you can tell us?

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

In the Electronica (or whatever the section with Techno vinyl is called now) "J Velez/Professor Genius"

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

This news is lame. Yeah there are other remaining stores in mhat/bklyn but can I actually reliably buy new CDs of weird shit there? Academy rules but it's used so catch as catch can. The rest of em are p much vinyl focused. Bleh.

Fond memory: day of release for bish bosch, with 17 dollars left in my bank account, hurrying to OM on my lunch break to spend 16 of that on it

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

Haven't been to NYC in about 15 years, but Other Music was great, sad news

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

Just remembered an awkward moment buying the s/t Panda Bear record from Panda Bear back in 99/00.

RIP OM.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

Whenever I went to OM I was always blown away by how many used Tzadik/Avant CDs I could find, plus cheap indie imports. RIP, Other Music. Hang in there, Dusty Groove.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

i recently watched the (frankly horrible and transparently hagiographic) tower records documentary "all things must pass" and the moment of truth comes when one of the now retired execs talks at length about how great record stores are - so much to see, so many people to talk to, look at all that fabulous product - but sheepishly ends by saying he can't remember the last time he went into one and that is the epitaph on the stone.

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

Ughhh. I still remember the first time I went there, when I was 15, on a class trip 12 years ago. I bought a Casino vs. Japan CD. Of the 8 times I've been to New York since, I always made a point of going. Definitely got a lot of significant albums there - especially a lot of great, hard to find used cds for cheap. On an emotional basis I assumed it would just exist until the end of time; on a more rational basis, I admire their endurance of both record industry fluctuations and NOHO rent.

Bad news :(

Also, re: "it was a neat place but tbh i never really felt like they were friendly there"

To whatever extent they had a reputation for hiring the mythical "record store jerk" types, I never noticed it. More importantly, who cares???

ed.b, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

i mean, i think i could feel intimidated at OM, just because it was clearly staffed by connoisseurs, but anytime i interacted w/ anyone they were always nice.

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link

it's hard to judge for me because I'd have to correct for the moderate intimidation I feel in basically any record store, plus the low-level intimidation of having my taste out in public in general

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

i found them to have the most interesting and best curated and most expensive selection in the city

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

definitely wasn't a place to bargain hunt

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

in 2005 or so, getting three discs with a c-note wouldn't have been out of character

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

i got a good deal on a nina nastasia album there

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

i don't have a huge problem w/ unfriendly record store clerks, it doesn't bother me that much, but i've been to enough places w/ cool welcoming friendly people and i'd rather shop at those places other things being equal

marcos, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

Let us not forget the tiny but excellent Throb on 14th (rlectronic/techno/house et al) and Temple

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 24 June 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

Both long gone as well. Satellite, Sonic Groove...

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 24 June 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

Oops sorry Josefa already mentioned them.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 24 June 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

Sounds was so awesome in the 80's. lots of unplayed promos in their dollar bins back then. though their stupid stickers were impossible to get of a record cover.

Bleeker Bob's was okay in the 80's too. though i mostly bought t-shirts there and bootleg tapes.

man, The Sound Library. that was right by my sister-in-law's apartment and they were too rich for my blood. everything i wanted was like 20 dollars more than i wanted to spend.

when i did the EMP conference at NYU i was REALLY impressed by Generation. that's my kinda store. i got all kinds of good stuff for cheap. i was kinda shocked by how good the prices were. got really cool old cherry red records for like 7 bucks apiece.

scott seward, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

Sounds/St.Mark's Bookshop/St.Marks comics was all a degenerate kid from Connecticut like me really needed in the 80's.

scott seward, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

i liked Second Coming for classic rock in the 80's though.

scott seward, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

Etherea replaced Adult Crash, which was my favorite Kim's competitor in the pre-Other Music days. Now it's Mast Books.

dan selzer, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link

people always talk about bleeker bob attitude but they were always nice to me there. the only store that used to intimidate me when i was a kid was Colony. at night it would be bustling and it seemed like there was always some old man employee running around with huge stacks of records in his arms and customers jostling every which way. the fulton fish market of record stores. i was out of my league. my dad always had to stop there for jazz.

scott seward, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

there was also free being on 2nd ave off st marks. i got my ramones leave home signed there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChOgG1BW4AAWYbn.jpg

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 24 June 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

this will be a useful document in the decades to come

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 24 June 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

when i did the EMP conference at NYU i was REALLY impressed by Generation.

during the brief time i lived in nyc, generation was one of the most day-to-day useful record stores i knew of. ugly, horrible vibe, careless employees, but lots of reasonably-priced metal & punk vinyl downstairs.

oculus lump (contenderizer), Friday, 24 June 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

Now that OM is gone, Generation is the only record store in that area worth going to anymore. Bleecker St. used to be great for bootlegs but it's useless now.

flappy bird, Friday, 24 June 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

Alex in NYC blogpost: http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2007/03/dont_bother_loo.html
Related thread: Bleecker Bobs is closing.
Alex in NYC thread: NYC'ers: Favorite Long Gone Record Shops

NYT Times roundup from 3 decades ago: http://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/21/arts/music-to-go-a-guide-to-disk-and-tape-shops.html?pagewanted=all

Extensive Ben Sisario list: http://charmicarmicat.blogspot.com/2008/04/death-and-life-of-great-manhattan.html
which links at the top to this article by him: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/18/arts/music/18reco.html

Amusing memorials and obits for the owner of Discophile, a legendary classical music store that also carried other imports:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/04/arts/music/franz-jolowicz-86-dies-owned-a-noted-record-store.html
http://thevillager.com/villager_135/franzjolowicz86.html
http://neveryetmelted.com/2005/12/05/franz-of-discophile-dies-at-86/

Still trying to remember the store across the street from Discophile on the northern side 8th Street in the 80s that was below street level and had a very generic name- Record Exchange? Music Exchange? that never seems to show up on these lists, but they had a lot of imports, although all I can clearly remember buying is Seventeen Seconds and Faith.

Secondary Modern Prometheus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 June 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Ah, must have been the Record Factory, 17 W 8th.

Guy who has been the ringer singer in The Monks/Left Banke/Moby Grape reunions posted about Discophile on Alex's blog.

Tiny bit of very old school West 8th Street nostalgia: http://www.nysun.com/new-york/once-bustling-west-8th-street-slows-down/32670/

Secondary Modern Prometheus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 June 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

8th Street was the spot for Prince boots, latest Melody Maker/Nme and UK mags, imports when I was a teen lad.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 24 June 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

last in-store performance today at 5:30: 75 Dollar Bill

And then we take our music to the streets! After the in-store, 75 Dollar Bill and the incredible Matana Roberts will lead us on a march from Other Music, across 4th Street, down the Bowery, to the Bowery Ballroom on Delancey. We want to celebrate 20 years of New York City music and arts culture with all of you, and we hope that whether or not you have tickets to the Bowery show, you will join us for this free event -- let’s show NYC that music still matters! We will start gathering at Other Music at 5:30, and the parade will begin moving at 6:30, with Matana’s crew taking the lead, and 75 Dollar Bill bringing up the rear guard after their in-store performance.

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

great way to go out, 75 dollar bill are dope.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

75 Dollar Bill = the best band

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

shameless plug, 75 dollar bill are also playing thursday with C Joynes and Metal Mountains (my wife's band) in Brooklyn.

ian, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

ian, can you get that bill to come out to colorado, klausman and i will pay everyone in beer and records.

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

thank u in advance

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

i'll be sure to tell rick & che.

ian, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Watched the doc over the long weekend. *sigh*

Quit It And Hit It Sideways (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

Any ideas as to why LCD Soundsystem doesn't show up on that list?

Wondering myself at this long unanswered question. Feel like I can see their name near the top of the list on the whiteboard in my mind. Maybe they are in the second 100, in a spot adjacent to Jim Ford.

Quit It And Hit It Sideways (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

I liked Other Music a lot, and bought plenty of albums that were important to me, and even though I didn't live in NY was sad to hear they were going. But I think the doc hit hard as just a story among so many re: loss of shops/community in music. And that was before Covid...

Soundslike, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

Rewatching the final crawl just noticed that ILX0r Capitaine Jay Vee got a credit under the Archival Materials Courtesy Of rubric.

My Baby Loves the Western Music Theory (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link

There were a couple (few?) OM employees posting here at one point, don't want to dox anyone though...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

I'm in the credits too. I retouched a few old polaroids (cleaned up dust and scratches) as a favor to Rob.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link


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