other music hyperbole? or are they all that

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yeah i'm sure they considered it, but who knows, maybe the owners are just burnt out ... 21 years is a long time. kind of surprised they aren't keeping the mail order thing going, seems like they must've made some cash off of that. at least they made some cash off of me with that ...

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

They were my fourth stop when I was regularly buying music in NYC:

1) Mondo Kim's (the city's best used CD section)
2) Tower on 4th & Broadway (incredible jazz section)
3) Downtown Music Gallery (out jazz shit that neither of the other two had)
4) Other Music (if I couldn't find what I wanted anywhere else - also, they sold tickets for shows at Tonic)

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 9 May 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

You never went to Rockit Scientist and let him try to sell you an overpriced Zeppelin boot?

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

sorry to hear about another record store biting the dust. Have to say I hadn't been there in years (Kim's going was a bigger thing to me). In Manhattan, now I guess it's just Academy Records, Generation (for metal esp), and like, Best Buy? Guess I should visit DMG before it goes too!

Dominique, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

Bleecker St is still open, right?

flappy bird, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

There's still Good Records, and Academy in Manhattan has two locations, Turntable Lab, various others... this isn't counting Brooklyn

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

Bleecker St and some of the other(s?) in that area have inflated prices. Other Music had realistic market value based prices.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

yeah i'm sure they considered it, but who knows, maybe the owners are just burnt out ... 21 years is a long time. kind of surprised they aren't keeping the mail order thing going, seems like they must've made some cash off of that. at least they made some cash off of me with that ...

― tylerw, Monday, May 9, 2016 1:40 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm just saying that's the biggest part of the shock for me, as I'm used to many of the stronger NYC stores just moving to new locations rather than calling it quits.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

i never shopped there. i always went to Tower.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

you know, in the 90's, when i found myself in that vicinity.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

Tower was awesome.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

also discount Tower store. awesome.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

i miss tower... and virgin in union square

flappy bird, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

assuming this means the other music label is shutting down too, which is too bad -- they put out some great stuff, especially the xylouris white and 75 dollar bill records ...

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

No, thing I read said they are keeping the label going.

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Remember the prior label that they were involved in, Omplatten?

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Bought so much from them over the years. Made friends with many of the folks there and was honored when they gave my music its own little section a couple years ago. Fuck NYC mach 2016.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

wait, what section was that, if you can tell us?

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

In the Electronica (or whatever the section with Techno vinyl is called now) "J Velez/Professor Genius"

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

This news is lame. Yeah there are other remaining stores in mhat/bklyn but can I actually reliably buy new CDs of weird shit there? Academy rules but it's used so catch as catch can. The rest of em are p much vinyl focused. Bleh.

Fond memory: day of release for bish bosch, with 17 dollars left in my bank account, hurrying to OM on my lunch break to spend 16 of that on it

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

Haven't been to NYC in about 15 years, but Other Music was great, sad news

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

Just remembered an awkward moment buying the s/t Panda Bear record from Panda Bear back in 99/00.

RIP OM.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

Whenever I went to OM I was always blown away by how many used Tzadik/Avant CDs I could find, plus cheap indie imports. RIP, Other Music. Hang in there, Dusty Groove.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

i recently watched the (frankly horrible and transparently hagiographic) tower records documentary "all things must pass" and the moment of truth comes when one of the now retired execs talks at length about how great record stores are - so much to see, so many people to talk to, look at all that fabulous product - but sheepishly ends by saying he can't remember the last time he went into one and that is the epitaph on the stone.

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

Ughhh. I still remember the first time I went there, when I was 15, on a class trip 12 years ago. I bought a Casino vs. Japan CD. Of the 8 times I've been to New York since, I always made a point of going. Definitely got a lot of significant albums there - especially a lot of great, hard to find used cds for cheap. On an emotional basis I assumed it would just exist until the end of time; on a more rational basis, I admire their endurance of both record industry fluctuations and NOHO rent.

Bad news :(

Also, re: "it was a neat place but tbh i never really felt like they were friendly there"

To whatever extent they had a reputation for hiring the mythical "record store jerk" types, I never noticed it. More importantly, who cares???

ed.b, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

i mean, i think i could feel intimidated at OM, just because it was clearly staffed by connoisseurs, but anytime i interacted w/ anyone they were always nice.

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link

it's hard to judge for me because I'd have to correct for the moderate intimidation I feel in basically any record store, plus the low-level intimidation of having my taste out in public in general

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

i found them to have the most interesting and best curated and most expensive selection in the city

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

definitely wasn't a place to bargain hunt

tylerw, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

in 2005 or so, getting three discs with a c-note wouldn't have been out of character

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

i got a good deal on a nina nastasia album there

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

i don't have a huge problem w/ unfriendly record store clerks, it doesn't bother me that much, but i've been to enough places w/ cool welcoming friendly people and i'd rather shop at those places other things being equal

marcos, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

if you like music but do not frequently spend time & money in actual brick & mortar record stores, i would like to set you on fucking fire

― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer)

awesome, i am sick to death of this fucking planet and i've been looking for someone to light me on fire lately. do you provide your own gasoline?

diana krallice (rushomancy), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

no

da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

to the extent they ever had them, they'd sell punk/rock records for cheap. presumably not out enough.

agree w/ tyler abt the staff. they mostly seemed pretty nice, once past the initial "and who the fuck are you?" moment.

da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

The only guy who I ever got even a mild "who are you?" moment from was one of the owners, so I just refrained from using him as one of my go to guys for any questions I might have had or chit chat I might indulge in and I was fine from then on in.

Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

damn first music store i shopped at in NY back in 2002 rip

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

no

― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer)

that's ok, i can provide my own gasoline. it's pretty cheap these days.

diana krallice (rushomancy), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

The co-owner Chris in particular was always extremely nice and helpful. He always seemed like recommending and talking about music made him happy.

Also regarding prices... everything seemed very reasonably priced, and as a former buyer and pricer at a store myself I have some experience in that department.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

i'm sure there were PLENTY of people who lived in new york and bought from OM online and never went to the store in recent years. because they were too stoned to leave their apartments.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

i have no problem with rudeness in record stores. this usually just means that the people working there leave me alone. which is ideal really.

scott seward, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

I never encountered rudeness there. Maybe intense indifference on their faces at worst but they'll still help you find something.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Rent, on the other hand, has more than doubled from the $6,000 a month the store paid in 1995

if your new york city rent has only doubled in 21 years, you are incredibly lucky. which is to say, if that's true, you can blame lots of things for OM's demise, but not their landlord.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

just to clarify my position, i still see the value of music stores in places where the rents aren't as insane as in NYC

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

If rent was the main culprit, again, they'd have just relocated like all the other stores that have done so in NYC.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

well sure; there's not really demand. But in a smaller city, the social qualities may prove a lot more necessary.

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

They attempted a Cambridge, MA branch in the early '00s, literally around the corner from Twisted Village. It didn't last long (a year or two at most, iirc), and it was largely due to the loyalty many locals felt towards Twisted (which was better curated, lower-priced, and had in-store performances).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 May 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

Never liked this place, and amazed they held on this long. Kim's were assholes too, but that store had its heart in the right place (especially Mondo Kims). I saw a good OM in-store by Richard Davies and another by Junior Boys, and that's about all the good things I can say. I liked Rockit Scientist: he was like the 20-something who lived in his parents' basement in the suburbs of NJ and turned everyone on to Floyd and Zep and weed. Other Music was like the 20-something guy who lived with roommates in Williamsburg and tried to turn everyone on to...oh god, what was that horrible OM related band that was trying to be the Residents. It's gone completely out of my mind now.

dlp9001, Monday, 9 May 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

I think the point of the Cambridge, MA store was that it was also across the street from a Tower Records.

Pre-mp3s/ILM/youtube/streaming, OM gave me access to a lot of underground stuff I would only read about but never find. I am grateful to them for that. I definitely owe my early Kompakt records obsession to them.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link

shameless plug, 75 dollar bill are also playing thursday with C Joynes and Metal Mountains (my wife's band) in Brooklyn.

ian, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

ian, can you get that bill to come out to colorado, klausman and i will pay everyone in beer and records.

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

thank u in advance

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

i'll be sure to tell rick & che.

ian, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Watched the doc over the long weekend. *sigh*

Quit It And Hit It Sideways (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

Any ideas as to why LCD Soundsystem doesn't show up on that list?

Wondering myself at this long unanswered question. Feel like I can see their name near the top of the list on the whiteboard in my mind. Maybe they are in the second 100, in a spot adjacent to Jim Ford.

Quit It And Hit It Sideways (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

I liked Other Music a lot, and bought plenty of albums that were important to me, and even though I didn't live in NY was sad to hear they were going. But I think the doc hit hard as just a story among so many re: loss of shops/community in music. And that was before Covid...

Soundslike, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

Rewatching the final crawl just noticed that ILX0r Capitaine Jay Vee got a credit under the Archival Materials Courtesy Of rubric.

My Baby Loves the Western Music Theory (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link

There were a couple (few?) OM employees posting here at one point, don't want to dox anyone though...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

I'm in the credits too. I retouched a few old polaroids (cleaned up dust and scratches) as a favor to Rob.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link


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