rolling PEDs/steroids/placebos 2015 thread

50 games for raul mondesi jr., the royals' top prospect

supposedly reduced from 80 after mondesi showed that the banned substance (clenbuterol) was in his cold medicine

by rule, he is barred from the 2016 MLB playoffs /edhochuli

marlon byrd, 162 games

https://twitter.com/ithrow88/status/738080567258796032

@joe_sheehan
If the home-run rate on contact can be 4% with zero drug tests (~99-01), and 4% with 22,000 drug tests, maybe it was never about the drugs?

Or perhaps the cheaters are adjusting to the drug tests? Like in every other sport in the world.

I still say the ball was juiced

did someone say something? xp

I know even less about baseball than I do politics, but why would that sport be different than any other sport in the world?

bcz we don't see any hard evidence that drugs make you better at baseball

i can't top your first ten words, however

:)

I can't think of a sport where drugs don't help, though.

all drugs, by all takers? that is an absurd supposition, but entirely in keeping with your rigorous analysis of everything.

even if they don't increase your ability to sock dingers they do help keep injuries at bay

as always thank god the NFL is drugfree

http://www.denverbroncos.com/assets/images/imported/DEN/photos/centerpiece/homepage/2015/09-September/150923_manning_CP.jpg

I'd be amazed if the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, is drug free. Also, real football. Weren't there rumblings that the Spanish doping doctors connected to cycling stars were also doing a lot for football players, at Spanish clubs in particular? Can't see why baseball should be uniquely good or bad. Perhaps it's just that steroids impact the body in really obvious ways?

'real football'

We are not arguing if the Major Leagues are drug-free or aren't, we know it is, cause unlike other pro. sports baseball is ahead of the curve by not ignoring the issue altogether. What we are discussing is if the performance enhancing drugs have that much of an effect on a player's career, the answer would be more complicated than you suggest Fred, because that's how life works.

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/09/29/jesus-montero-suspended-50-games-for-use-of-a-stimulant/