i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

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Bird exposed as one of those old guys who is completely blinded by anyone who says shit like "the way I look at it is, well you know me Larry, I'm old-school."

Clay, Sunday, 15 May 2016 01:33 (eight years ago) link

ugh so apparently hes generally a shitty offensive coach? clay what else is there to worry about?

micah, Sunday, 15 May 2016 07:21 (eight years ago) link

i was hoping bird would hire hornacek ://

micah, Sunday, 15 May 2016 07:21 (eight years ago) link

maybe he's changed some since coaching the sonics and blazers in the early-mid aughts. he's very highly respected around the league. but he's a disciplinarian, players reportedly aren't super fond of his m/l militaristic approach to schedule and practice, he'll alter a rotation once every couple of years, prefers point-guard dominated predictable offensive sets, runs shot clock like a madman, and is so risk-adverse as to be maddening. basically every thing you hated about basketball during that period is embodied in nate mcmillan.

i wrote an extremely long post about how much i despised his approach to the game c. like 2006 or 2007 on here, and that was before pace-and-space and flowing offensive systems even existed as a platonic ideal alternative.

Clay, Sunday, 15 May 2016 07:30 (eight years ago) link

ok, wonderful, so he has all of vogel's flaws but magnified? wow.

micah, Sunday, 15 May 2016 07:31 (eight years ago) link

promoting a coach like this from within is a really bad look! and it sounds like it will lead to bad basketball too. gross.

micah, Sunday, 15 May 2016 07:33 (eight years ago) link

sad!

micah, Sunday, 15 May 2016 07:33 (eight years ago) link

I can't find my McMillan essay from a decade ago but there is this, original poster was hibachi, responding to me remembering that post

i think hibachi or cad once asked me what i thought about mcmillan in the first year portland was doing pretty good with roy & aldridge and i'd had a couple beers and wrote like a 6,000 word post about how severely i disagree w/ like every basketball decision mcmillan had ever made

― Clay, Tuesday, April 14, 2015 11:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I 100% remember this it was an eloquent essay that booted me directly and permanently off the McMillan bandwagon and he was vaporized as a head coach not long after, maybe the most otm thing ever on ilh

also if you isolate ilh in a searching for McMillan it's seriously 90% me bitching about his approach to basketball every couple months for five years

Clay, Sunday, 15 May 2016 08:01 (eight years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link

really discouraging hire for the larry bird knows what he's doing crowd.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link

just cause hes not right abt everything doesnt mean he not good at his job

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link

the bird is cooked

circles, Sunday, 15 May 2016 16:12 (eight years ago) link

maybe hes panning on trading george and this is his whip the rookies into shape coach

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2016 16:15 (eight years ago) link

scept mac is an "I only play my vets" guy

Clay, Sunday, 15 May 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link

perfect

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 May 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

lol the years have focused my rage like glass love it

Clay, Sunday, 15 May 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link

so the pacers hired byron scott?

, Sunday, 15 May 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

These teams are killing me Mike Malone and Jeff Hornacek and probably a half dozen other guys I'm forgetting (that heat assistant Dave somebody) are just sitting RIGHT THERE and they keep hiring retreads from before the pace&space/shoot threes dummies/curry era

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Monday, 16 May 2016 22:08 (eight years ago) link

I do fear that the legend is losing it but that dude can still draft p well

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Monday, 16 May 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link

lol i just remembered that during the roy/aldridge era the blazers trotted out lineups with aldridge (young and fast for his size), peak rudy fernandez, run and gunning sergio rodriguez, etc, guys just built to get up and down the floor. iirc they closed out with the slowest adjusted pace in the league, year after year.

Clay, Monday, 16 May 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link

Yah that team coulda shoulda been a blast

Spottie, Monday, 16 May 2016 22:59 (eight years ago) link

he benched dre miller for... steve blake

seriously my rage against nate mcmillan is just an bottomless well

Clay, Monday, 16 May 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

Iirc I think I joined ilh around then

Spottie, Monday, 16 May 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link

really excited to have clay's nate mcmillan vendetta back tbh

call all destroyer, Monday, 16 May 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link

Ha clay a quick look and sort of the franchise page on basket ref reveals that the coach of four of the five slowest teams by relative pace rating (so compared to the league that year) were coached by...ya boy Nate

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 00:58 (eight years ago) link

*Slowest teams in the history of the franchise!!

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 00:58 (eight years ago) link

he is so so bad!!!!!!!!!!!

otoh, terry stotts 3 year extension polite_applause.gif

Clay, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link

Draft lotto tonight

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 12:38 (eight years ago) link

celtics will win the nba draft lotto

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 14:37 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cipp65gWsAAl470.jpg

🙏🙏🙏

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link

30% to get a likely star, i'll take it

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 15:02 (eight years ago) link

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 34s34 seconds ago
Report: Scott Skiles signs two-year non-compete agreement with Magic http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/05/17/report-scott-skiles-signs-two-year-non-compete-agreement-with-magic

huh

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 16:25 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/KarlTowns/status/732614258568003584

:(

, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link

my official lottery predix:

1. boston (via nets)
2. philly
3. denver (via knicks)
4. philly (via lakers)

Clay, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link

Pretty nervous about this tbh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 22:13 (eight years ago) link

ya its crazy for the lakers all or nothin

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link

what time is this thing gonna actually happen

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:04 (eight years ago) link

oh boy, i always forget that the lottery designates the exact moment every year when jay bilas reenters my life

Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:06 (eight years ago) link

Mutombo spoiled the lottery? The fix is in lmao

, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:09 (eight years ago) link

haha he jinxed em, bet

6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:11 (eight years ago) link

yay it's lottery dais time!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link

love when teams send the coach or GM bc it's like "hi i am here bc i suck at my job"

Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link

i don't think willie cauley stein actually knows where he is

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link

mitch looks haunted af

Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link

It2 sitting next to Mitch kupchak, feeling good about this

Kupchak zoom.gif

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link

lol mitch

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link

these questions are so dumb come on

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:16 (eight years ago) link

no goofy representatives this year except abe leonsis' son (who seems pretty goofy tbf)

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:17 (eight years ago) link

lakers kept their pick fix is in

Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:22 (eight years ago) link

We still in this yes!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:22 (eight years ago) link


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