09 playoffs thread

fyi dudes GARNETT IS OUT for the playoffs :(((((((((((

c's still beat chi imo even tho they hav been rolling - after that rip celtics tho

^^

curious to see what kind of heroic shit pp is going to pull out his ass

i was hoping maybe kg would pull the wheelchair stunt this time around

maybe they could coordinate something where pierce leaves the court on stretcher then returns from the locker room a few minutes later RIDING ON KGS SHOULDERS

:D

23, 24, Cs, billups, dwight, spurs, blaze, heat

last one probably wishful thinking.

wade is mega dangerous and beasley has been beastly lately - close series imo

CLE v DET - cavs in 4
LAL v UTA - lakers in 5
BOS v CHI - celtics in 5
DEN v NO - hornets in 7
ORL v PHI - magic in 5
SA v DAL - spurs in 6
POR v HOU - blazers in 6
ATL v MIA - heat in 7

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beasleys 5 games since starting - pretty much in line w/his per minute averages from the last month or so too

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3418

22/5 in 19mins - 23/13 in 23mins O_O

i don't think wade is losing to the hawks

btw beasley is enjoying a better stretch than roy heir apparent derick rose had all year - while i agree w/everyone that hes gonna be v good one thing people are missing is that rose is not a pure point - everyone is totally overrating his distributing abilities - his assist rate is at a combo guard level - billupsesque - he did get a fair amount of assists this year but thats just cause he always always has the ball

so people are kinda imagining a bigger more athletic chris paul but rose will never have nearly the point skill paul does while paul does have ridic shooting guard scoring capabilities - and its that multiple elite skills that marks nba offensive superstardom - cause opposing Ds basically cant prepare - they take away yr best thing and youve got another best thing waiting - not sure rose is gonna get there

beasley on the other hand shooting/driving/posting/rebounding hmmmm

CLE v DET - cavs in 4
LAL v UTA - lakers in 5
BOS v CHI - celtics in 7 (w/out Garnett they are fucked)
DEN v NO - hornets in 6
ORL v PHI - magic in 5
SA v DAL - mavs in 6
POR v HOU - blazers in 7
ATL v MIA - heat in 6

dudes picking the mavs over spurs = u mad

blold call

― ice cr?m, Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:12 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Celtics w/o Garnett are very beatable, but I'm rethinking that after seeing the 76ers lose to a could-not-care-less Celtics and needing OT to beat the Cavs' scrubs. If the Celtics were playing a team that gave even just the tiniest crap about winning they'd be in trouble - lucky for them the Sixers ain't it.

the celtics arent playing the sixers tho

LOL

S-M-R-T

I blame The Basketball Jones.

CLE v DET - cavs (.800 vs .475, says it all y'know)
LAL v UTA - lakers (a sloan-coached team will play tough, but...c'mon)
BOS v CHI - celtics (pierce still has some good chops left)
DEN v NO - denver (NO not playing its best ball as playoffs start, while denver's been hot)
ORL v PHI - magic (sixers succumb to the dwight howard effect)
SA v DAL - san antonio (spurs won't get far, but they'll get past the mavs)
POR v HOU - blazers (adelman-coached team will play tough, but blazer 3's will take 'em down)
ATL v MIA - heat (in a close series)

(a sloan-coached team will play tough, but...c'mon)

if okur is playing it won't look like last tuesday but i saw deron kinda lose faith the other day when he realized he needed to basically drive in on every play for them to be competitive (like last year, but back then it seemed like one of many options). they're tough but 48 minutes of scoring is hard to come by there.

im quite disappointed in the jazz this year - feel like even tho they did get healthy at the end of the year all those injuries killd their flow

barkley otm the other night saying that this team(utah) doesn't possess their coaches personality.

boozer wd srsly be pissing me off as a jazz fan tho, i've had to put up with LO for 5 years but that fool is ridiculous

i kinda feel like the league is passing sloan by - like why do his teams still foul so much when everyone else has figured out its pretty much the worst thing u can do

The Jazz should probably start from scratch, I think. Let Boozer go, trade Kirilenko, and start with a young core with a new owner, a great PG, and a dynamic new coach.

boozer doesnt play too much D but when hes healthy hes a beast in every other way - problem: never healthy - not so much his fault - and prince painting a purple stripe around his house is one of my fav news stories ever

if u paird cbooze w/a strong defensive center itd be a much better fit than his current scenario - also his name is the most hilarious imo - carlos boozer - its just perfect i dunno

Boozer + Howard would be dynamite.

i'm all for letting boozer go. millsap actually plays defense, rebounds at least as well, and could probably score 17-18 a game in a starting position. boozer is one of the worst pick and roll defenders in the league, he doesn't even pretend to make the effort most of the time. and ice cram is right about us needing a strong defensive center if we were to keep booz. okur doesn't play defense either and kirilenko has lost too much of his game to be worth what we're paying him. i also agree that now is the time for sloan to step down, he's stuck in the past. i'm sick of seeing him immediately pull dudes like cj miles and brewer out because they took an outside shot that sloan doesn't like

looking forward to future rationalizations for why beasley shoulda been picked over rose.

hey everyone scoffed when i repped for durant over oden and look at me now mr right

oden and stanley roberts (per bill simmons):

Oden: 21.3 mpg, 8.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.1 bpg, 56.3 FG percent, 63.3 FT percent
Roberts: 20.3 mpg, 10.4 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.5 bpg, 52.8 FG percent, 51.5 FT percent

Oden, 2007-8: 0.0mpg, 0.0ppg, 0.0bpg, n/a fg percent, n/a ft percent
polyphonic, 2007-8: 0.0mpg, 0.0ppg, 0.0bpg, n/a fg percent, n/a ft percent

pretty decent stats dude

so wait, ilx user "polyphonic" is not former nba player stanley robinson?

so wait, ilx user "polyphonic" is not former nba player stanley robinson?

:X

they are ok stats; i suppose it depends on what you expected from oden

Yeah, what I meant to say was "give the kid a break, he should be a junior in college and is coming off major surgery."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Greg_Oden_Comic-Con_2008.jpg

^should be a grandpa

yeah i think he can be an average nba center but doubt he'll ever live up to #1 pick status. also needs to figure out how to stop fouling which is actually the reason simmons came up with the comp.

guys generally foul less w/experience - hes starting in a deep whole tho def - i still think he could be an elite defender/rebounder and decent scorer - which is what i thought when he came into the league - injuries will have a lot to say abt that obv

if you were more familiar with the bulls offensive schemes, or lack thereof, and its personnel, you might not be so quick to dismiss Rose's assist abilities (he routinely throws up 'oops that go nowhere cause Noah is shocked that a)it's not ben gordon with the ball and therefore ballhandler might attempt a pass and b)they might attempt a pass to HIM.) Granted, I don't think he'll be as good as Paul or even Kidd in that dept, but that's not much of a knock. btw CP3 avg'd 16.1/7.8 in 39 mins his rookie year. D Rose: 16.8/6.3 in 37 mins.

the bigger edge I see Paul having over him his steals. D Rose is quick and is willing, but for whatever reason is a terrible defender. Doesn't even make up for not keeping guys in front of him with playing the passing lanes.

i gotta imagine that being on the bulls doesn't help d rose's defensive intensity -- he prob never really had to try on D in HS or at memphis and he doesn't have a kg (like rondo) or a few years around the USA guys (like paul) or anything of that nature

yeah that's true. and vinny is def not known for his defensive-mindedness. but he does seem to try. just looks totally lost out there. sticks like glue to every screen. doesn't know when to go over/when to go under. when to give up the jumper/when to get up in someone's grill. i think he'll learn and get better. iirc correctly wade was a bit of a matador as a rook, too.

another reason he doesn't get more assists is, rather than the main offense strategy being have him penetrate and kick out/throw a lob or be involved in a pick n roll, 80% of the time it consists of him throwing a pass to gordon with 15 seconds left on the shot clock, rose getting out of the way and standing in the corner, and bg forcing shit on his own.

seriously if bg wasn't a huge ballhog AND in his contract year on top of that, rose would've had an even huge season stat wise.

Dynasties can be cool, so long as the dynasty is a team I like.

The second biggest problem with the NBA is that Lakers/Celtics have won so damn much. I totally sympathize with anyone hating both these teams.

carne asada, (xxxposts) i'm with you on the inanity of celebration-self-righteousness, but dunno about your simmons comment. i mean, if the guy was trying to take away from the lakers, he failed epically: in the course of his article he anoints kobe as an NBA god (what he accomplished in the past 20 months ranks up there with anything that ever happened in the nba), calls gasol the second-best center, fisher "a terrific leader and character guy", and jackson the greatest coach ever. his main beef is with certain prevalent media narratives about WHY kobe and the lakers won (unselfishness, learned to love one another, etc...).

now the simers piece on the other hand, is total hater hack job.

the only finals of the last decade that didn't infuriate me (ok i was neutral re: heat-mavs) were last year's and whenever the pistons sonned LA

Oh, you mean last year when the team with the most titles in NBA history won again? That was a refreshing change from the norm.

I bet you will enjoy it when the Yankees win again this year you SON OF A BITCH. ;-)

Looking at the list of the best players to play for the Celtics/Lakers and realizing how many of them were just flat out stolen from other teams (or from draft picks thieved from other teams) is amazing:

Lakers: Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Worthy, O'Neal, Bryant, Gasol

Celtics: Russell, Jones, Bird, Parrish, McHale, Garnett

never ban cankles

Yeah, I would have zero problem with a new Celtics dynasty tbh. The Spurs and Lakers are just two of the most odious teams I can even imagine, albeit in different ways. Lakers don't really need explaining, they are just loathsome in a visceral and personal way, everything about them makes me sneer w/disgust; with the Spurs it's more about the poisonously boring, awful brand of basketball they play. I have hella respect for Popovich and some of their players (including Duncan even though he is the most horrible-to-watch great player ever) in a way that I can't even muster for the Lakers. Actually, just thinking about this is almost making me nostalgic for the days of Spurs domination, a sentiment that fills me w/self loathing like the gay dad in American Beauty ;_;

Oh, you mean last year when the team with the most titles in NBA history won again? That was a refreshing change from the norm.

I bet you will enjoy it when the Yankees win again this year you SON OF A BITCH. ;-)

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:12 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm a celtix fan u homo

tho actually i was just wondering about this - could i have rooted for that same team if they were wearing purple and gold? I think I really would've been able to somewhat, at least if phil jackson wasn't involved - i just love ray allen and kg that dang much and it would've been gratifying to see them win like that on any team, but it was just better by magnitudes that it ended with the celtics cornholing the lakers

Nothing could inspire me to root for the Celtics. My hatred of their laundry was ingrained from such a young age. Whereas I don't even want to like the Lakers, but I almost can't help myself from rooting for them. Fandom is a strange thing.

yeah i hate the lakers with a passion, kobe's gameface underbite was terrible, much-beloved derek fisher seems like a dbag imo, i could go on

really beyond a bulls championship i would have loved nothing more than to see yao and artest smiling and clutching the trophy this year but oh well

yeah, it's funny but i was watching the rockets lakers series with more interest than any of the hawks' series - was pullin for those dudes p hard

btw

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e281/guitarfella14/001-1.jpg

i demand an underbite pic!

lets do this, most interesting teams of the 2000s (since its officially in the books) NOT to win a championship:

05-08 phoenix suns (rip ssol)
05 and 06 mavericks, the natural suns nemesis and sorry lol dirk u lose to spurs again
07 golden state (a+ cinderella of the decade, would believe again)
09 rockets (lol mcgrady out of first round)

and...?

06 heat officially NOT interesting unless u love bennet salvatore, 04 pistons mildly fun for sheed buying wwf style championship belts and smacking the desperate lakers

http://homepage.mac.com/cheilman1/images/photos/alpacas/underbite.jpg

xp

http://i44.tinypic.com/6zwsxt.jpg

oh now that is just gross

kobe spacing out there imagining how shaq's ass taste

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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hi cankles!

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/tripl3_a/Kobitch-2.gif

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highlights of ur '09 champs

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/tripl3_a/KOBEOWNED.gif

missed that play; very dope

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nation_desperately_seeks