Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Classic or Dud [spoilers]

What's Lynch's most terrifying scene over all?

Either Maddy's death or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A7ksKLqvpQ

I guess the theatrical, jed?

Bob couch prob the worst scene, my god

Old lunch otm

The most amazing thing is the in-camera(ness) - excuse my lack of vocabulary - of what he achieves. Even something as simple as the v close up camera shifting in and out of focus as they prize up Teresa's nail to find the typed letter hidden under there but it reaches a kind of sublime in the backwards scenes of the man from the red room with Bob and the guy in the blank misshapen punted nose mask jumping up and down backwards shrouded in smoke. I'm watching the fan edit (for shame) but that scene is extremely extended in that version and unlike anything I've ever seen in film, truly. Pretty sure it's not all in the theatrical cut anyway. It is uniquely terrifying and inspiring. Terrifyingly beautiful.

There's a little boy in the scene and he has the same misshapen pointed nose mask as the guy with the flat top Afro and he moves the mask back and forward to uncover his face and when he does it one time it's the face of a real white haired monkey. Then the boy points to Bob and says "fell a victim" backwards. Shudder.

The same monkey we see later in the film who (if you turn the volume pretty much all the way up) you hear whisper 'Judy' (presumably the Judy that Phillip Jeffries is ranting about earlier). Freaked my shit out the first time I caught that.

https://vimeo.com/151489812

bob over the couch scared the shit out of me.

lynch the master of creepy in twin peaks in general tho. like even the repetitive static shot of the damn ceiling fan in the palmer's house is fucking chilling.

Like everyone else, I've been revisiting TP and finally reached the end with this movie. Hadn't seen it since I saw it at the cinema upon its first release: my overwhelming memory was of it being perhaps the scariest movie Lynch had ever made. That might've been the impact of watching it on a big screen - this time round, I was much more frequently ambushed by unexpected emotion, particularly during the final scene of Laura laughing hysterically and being comforted by Cooper; as the 'last' moment in TP (until the revival, obv) it seemed to emphasise the tragedy at the heart of the story, just what a short, horrible life that Laura Palmer had. A more 'realistic', straight-forward telling of the same story would not have anything like the same power, I don't think, so the film acts as justification and celebration of Lynch's obscurantism and allusiveness. Underneath it all, he's an incredibly 'warm' director who seems very heavily invested in his characters.

So, onto the new series.

Underneath it all, he's an incredibly 'warm' director who seems very heavily invested in his characters.

v. otm

I think we've seen just the right amount of TP there needs to be.

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, March 2, 2012

well little did i know

So, onto the new series.

― Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 09:32 Bookmark

do watch the missing pieces if you havent - it's sort of obscene and certainly unfair how the new series directly and explicitly builds on scenes from it

Thanks for the tip r/t/c, funnily enough I'd been checking out the wiki entry on FWWM and at the end it says

Lynch has recently stated that "'Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me' is very important to understanding (the revival)"

So, onto the Missing Pieces

the missing pieces is like... seven times more important to understanding the revival than fwwm on its own imo

i guess no one wants to be That Guy sternly prescribing some supposed offcuts from 1992 but tmp honestly does exist more plausibly as the anciently prerecorded first episodes of 2017 (not just in terms of plot/backstory but tonally also)

I think if you haven't seen the palmer family interview in "between two worlds" you're practically going in blind

serious question: why do ppl need to "understand" TP? It's not Agatha Christie.

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serious question: why do ppl need to "understand" TP? It's not Agatha Christie.

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 21:51 (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because if you watch it as a horror mystery comedy with soap elements, it's about a third as interesting

Nothing about the revival makes any sense until you've watched all of the Georgia Coffee commercials at least a few times.

Criterion now out.

Sheryl Lee:

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5050-surrendering-logic-in-twin-peaks-fire-walk-with-me

Anyone seen the CC?

This 207-minute (!) podcast may be of interest:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/projectionbooth/2017/10/25/episode-346-fire-walk-with-me-redux-twin-peaks-the-return

I have the new Criterion edition and haven't had the chance to watch it yet. Saw FWWM in a theater in July before I had started The Return, so I'm stoked to watch it again.

and like I said in the Lynch poll redux, Inland Empire is seriously due for a sweet Criterion reissue. the DVD is out of print in the USA and the only available copies of it are $30+ Japanese blu-rays.

One scene sticks in my mind from when i (re)watched it a few months ago. Bobby is pissed at Laura but she just smiles at him until he crumbles, and sort of dance-walks backwards away from her with a goofy grin on his face. Left at that it would be a great scene, showing Laura's irresistible winning charm. What is strange though is that after Bobby starts dancing, almost everyone else in the scene seems to start dancing too, as though accidental victims of her powerful juju. It's subtle, mostly, I had to rewind a few times to be sure.

Lee and Ashbrook are both so good in that scene

the DVD is out of print in the USA and the only available copies of it are $30+ Japanese blu-rays

wow wtf

glad I bought it when I did I guess

yeah this is the one i bought recently. it's only $21 now. i haven't watched it yet in full but i did put it in my player to make sure it worked/didn't look like shit, & i know it was shot on miniDV & i haven't seen the movie since it came out, but it did look kinda ehhh, just based on looking at the opening title sequence. looks like a youtube rip

Just that opening sweep across the title - INLAND EMPIRE - shit was pixelated & grainy as fuck

the DVD is out of print in the USA and the only available copies of it are $30+ Japanese blu-rays

Great movie, but it looks like it cost less than that to shoot.

pre order is up

gotta link?

Ju-Ju-dy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1B5mmh5q14

So from that clip of Sheryl Lee it seems Lynch brings techniques from meditation to the way he directs actors.

I only had to time to watch "The Missing Pieces" before the CC went back to the library; I had forgotten how goddamn beautiful Chris Isaak was.

wait you didn’t rewatch the actual movie

later

the Bowie scenes in TMP didn't really convince me i know WTF is going on there.

also i had food poisoning last night and that's kinda the last film i wanna watch in that state.

Bobby discovering his coke was laxative, lol

the Bowie scenes in TMP didn't really convince me i know WTF is going on there.

Bowie and the convenience store scenes are key to season 3.

better go ahead and tell me

the scenes are referenced (and iirc actually replayed) - you'll get it, don't worry

they replay all the relevant parts

whoops, sorry Οὖτις, my skimming is not so good today

for lack of anything better to do last night my wife and I started in on the original series again (w the intention of watching everything up through the Return) and I had two thoughts about the pilot:
1) Dana Ashbrook (w Grace Zabriskie a close second) totally nails the generally disconcerting/unpredictable vibe of the show right out the gate. he is great in every scene, always throwing in some weird nuance/mannerism/delivery that elevates the material
2) I lol'd when Cooper closes a scene at the PD with "Diane I am holding in my hand a box of chocolate bunnies"

The callback to the bunnies in The Return was so brilliant. Like, the way the show pauses to make you consider, does this mean something? Then quickly dismisses the idea.

Cooper is also strangely supercilious in some of his first scenes. He positively revels in grilling Bobby and Donna, he openly mocks them for no real reason, it comes off as almost cruel. These qualities seem to evaporate from his character as the show goes on. Or, at least, when they do pop up he more skillfully deploys them against people that deserve it.

It's a bit out of character, but maybe he sensed there was something there beyond Laura's death. After all, Bobby had just recently murdered his drug connect.

Shakey Mo, please try to keep it to the OG thread (c/d iirc) for posterity plz.

ah sorry