Have you seen Junior's grades?! ILM Artist Poll #75 - VAN HALEN (Results thread)

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I've just about now, 27 years later, gotten to where I can listen to Jamie's Cryin' without thinking about Wild Thing.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

ahaha ok my no. 1 won't make it :(

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

Eruption my #1 because VAN HALEN!

weatheringdaleson, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

• Did Nos. 15 & 14 really happen like that?

• I'll tell you what wasn't on my ballot - stuff like Ice Cream Man. Not a big fan of those shaloobidoobydoo jaunts. Didn't vote for Happy Trails either.

• I've always taken up for Van Hagar even though I'm firmly in the DLR camp. (But not the DLR "camp" I mention above.) Went through 5150 and OU812 as I was making my ballot, heard those "Stop lookin' out, start lookin' in, be your own best friend" lyrics and realized that I really can't take up for them as much anymore.

Pretty happy with the way this is rolling out though!

pplains, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

First time hearing Little Guitars, this is cool! Kind of like Van Halen doing Rush

Dominique, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHXbi1bC9T4

10. AND THE CRADLE WILL ROCK...
(Women and Children First; 1980) 377 points | 17 votes | 1 first place vote

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

rock on

mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link

i couldn't make room for Ice Cream Man but had to slip Happy Trails in at the end. i've always got time for a little of Dave's jazz scat, but a little does go a long way.

rmde bob (will), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Gk79FazKs

9. MEAN STREET
(Fair Warning; 1981) 391 points | 17 votes

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link

TOO FUCKIN' LOW!

Turrican, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

so fuckin good

rmde bob (will), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

maybe too early to call but it's looking like my only picks that didn't make it here are Happy Trails, One Foot Out the Door & You're No Good

the last one wasn't super-obvious for me. i'm not particularly in love with Ronstadt's version (Dee Dee Warwick OTOH...), but the atmospherics and DLR's vocals tipped it.

rmde bob (will), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

I'm no fan of the VH rhythm section, but to their credit with a very few exceptions they work with EVH like a true power trio. That is, when he is soloing there are rarely other guitars at work. Just the three instruments.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llfjDUB66Z4

8. DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY
(Van Halen II; 1979) 404 points | 17 votes

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

meh

mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

pfft i love "dance the night away" what a hook

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

Okay song, unsure why it's this high.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

Amazing hook. It would've been my #1 or #2.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

ugh alfred did you not vote

is that why "why can't this be love" is so low

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

sublime chorus

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1YcV3EmAzs

7. I'LL WAIT
(1984; 1984) 461 points | 18 votes | 1 first place vote

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

^^^ my jam

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

would have been on my solos list, had i made one

mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

ugh alfred did you not vote

is that why "why can't this be love" is so low

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson)

time will tell if we poll the test of time

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

"i'll wait" being top ten feels super ilm

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

super right

mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

"Hot For Teacher" missing the top 10 hurts me. sad!

a goon shaped tool (some dude), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

enjoying this, and haven't seen Dancing In the Streets yet? Assuming it's going to make it, that would be a pretty ILM choice

Dominique, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM

6. JUMP
(1984; 1984) 485 points | 20 votes

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

i fell in love with this song all over again in the past week

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

also love alex's drumming in the bridge

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

10 year old Johnny Fever heard Van Halen for the first time:

At my dad's company picnic, some guy was playing 1984, the song, in his Chevy Blazer with the back hatch open. Being a bold youngster, I walked over and sat down cross-legged in awe of what I was hearing. THEN Jump started, and then Panama.

So, thanks unknown guy at my dad's company picnic. I've been a VH fan for 32 years because of you.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

Jump video is about the most restrained DLR video I've seen yet. Probably the first time I saw him in action. VH was a radio band for me prior to that.

Zachary Taylor, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

Really hoped "Atomic Punk," "On Fire" and "And The Cradle Will Rock" would be higher - all top 5 for me. My top 5 all pretty much were fighting for #1 - which I eventually gave to "Atomic Punk."

I don't dislike it, but I don't understand the adoration for "I'll Wait." The keyboard sound is pretty tacky.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

I didn't vote for "Jump," but I do love the video. DLR with his Candice Bergen hair and Eddie's non-stop smile win me over every time.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5txwFv-zYM

5. RUNNIN' WITH THE DEVIL
(Van Halen; 1978) 527 points | 21 votes | 2 first place votes

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

rest of the list beginning to clarify, i.e. it's "right now" four times right

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

Right Right Right Right Now

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

"I'll Wait" was my #1: Possibly the greatest New Wave move by a dinosaur band--it's their version of "The Model", and how can that not rule?

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link

*throb*

home organ, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

A dinosaur band who were seven years into their recording career?

Turrican, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

*throb*

― home organ, Tuesday, May 24, 2016

^^^ imagine Van Halen covering Janet Jackson.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

The album's original release credits all songs to Edward Van Halen, Alex Van Halen, Michael Anthony and David Lee Roth.(citation needed) The label on the UK single release for "I'll Wait" (catalog #W9213) credited Michael McDonald as a co-writer, but he was not credited on the US version of the single (catalog #7-29307).(citation needed)

Songs from this album which appeared on compilations released after a royalty renegotiation with the band's label Warner Bros. (Best Of – Volume I, 1996) and a lawsuit brought by Roth (during the preparations for The Best of Both Worlds compilation, 2004),[citation needed] were credited to Edward Van Halen, Alex Van Halen and David Lee Roth, with Michael Anthony's name removed from the credits, as evident in the end song credits of the 2007 film Superbad. Subsequently, Anthony has been removed from all songwriting credits on the 1984 album.

The ASCAP entry for "I'll Wait" lists Michael McDonald as co-writer with Roth and the Van Halens. Like many bands starting out on their career, Van Halen shared songwriting credit equally between all members (including guitar instrumentals, which were clearly composed only by Eddie), but subsequent claims would lend credibility to the view that all songs were entirely or predominantly written by Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth, with little input from Van Halen's rhythm section.

In 2004, Roth discovered that the rest of the band had renegotiated a more preferential royalty rate with Warner Bros. for all releases made during his time as lead singer, giving them a royalty rate five times greater than his(5) This was later rectified.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

"I'll Wait" doesn't sound new wave to me -- it sounds like a rock band with syncopated synth.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

Yeah. it's no more new wave than Foreigner's "Urgent."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

what caused michael anthony's excommunication?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

I don't understand the politics of songwriting credits. So does that decision mean Alex VH and Michael Anthony were paid no royalties after a certain point or at the beginning they got credit and no royalties?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

what caused michael anthony's excommunication?

― mookieproof

he always looked unhealthy

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAktV72_nnE

4. EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!
(Women and Children First; 1980) 577 points | 23 votes

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

It looks like at the beginning, the formative years with DLR, they got credit and royalties, like a 4-way split, but that arrangement has been since revised.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link


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