Again, Maester:
Who says those dudes are really in the Brotherhood? Words are wind. I’m dubious until I see Beric and Thoros. I’m betting this is an adaption of a similar event from A Feast for Crows — the massacre at Saltpans — and that this trio of murderers is simply a trio of murderers.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
They didn't say they were from the Brotherhood, the Hound said it. They just said they were "protecting the people" or some such
― Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
Bad look giving a character a seemingly fatal wound in the same episode you bring back a character who suffered a seemingly fatal wound. It's like they're trying to undercut the stakes.
Excited for Hodor to come back in season seven though.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link
xpost Hound also mentioned that they worshiped a different god
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link
ice cold to bring in septon swearengen for only one episode but mcshane did rock that shit to be fair
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link
re: the arya stuff i'm fine with there being deus ex machina shit keeping her alive - like, it's a fuckin fantasy show - but would be annoyed if it's some fakeout where she's just being tested more by the house of black and white
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
Also it's not like they overstated the idea that she was strolling around town without care- it's that they literally just cut to the moment that she let her guard down. The theories that there's something more to what we see going on there just imply a pretty convoluted development. It's much simpler to say that she was careless right at the wrong time and now she's in a pickle as a result.
― Evan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
There's something curious about the waif clips in the episode 8 preview, or maybe I'm just influenced by the speculation. It's only blink and you'll miss it stuff after all.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link
it is true what people itt have said though, the stakes don't feel so high anymore. if she was going to be dead she would have just died at the end of this episode.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
This entire interminable Bravos plotline had better have a fucking awesome payoff at the end.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link
dorne
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link
remember dorne
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link
?
this siege is classic game of thrones too - the whole show is a fucking siege. thank god these guys never made a videogame
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link
xp im p glad dorne has kept quiet but im sure they'll surface in one of the last three eps to do some dastardly shit
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
u kno if you're looking for a GOT game w/ incest mechanics and tedious years-long sieges, crusader kings II has a fairly popular GOT mod
― Mordy, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
A Dornish invasion would be very welcome. I hope they're faster than everyone else.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
They'd definitely be .... sexier.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link
I'm seeing the waif running for her life in the preview. Not sure if that should mean she's not herself though.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link
Thanks r|t|c for getting Slave to the Rhythm stuck in my head. KEEP IT UP KEEP IT UP
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
perhaps oberyn's paramour will witness the hound kill the mountain fall in love with him forget her myriad vendetti and they can sail away together?
― conrad, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
Maybe everyone has been someone else all along, and when they're all dead Ned Stark will pop up, take off his mask, and be all, hey, everyone, I'm back! Everyone? Hello? Where is everyone? OMG, I am the last man alive on a planet populated by dragons and snow zombies!
And then they can start a spinoff. "Stark Choices?" "Last Ned On Earth?" "Better Ned Than Dead?"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link
Good points made by Ask the Maester, as always:
In the books, even a clear win, such as Theon helping Arya escape from Bolton-controlled Winterfell, is diluted by the fact that THAT ISN’T REALLY ARYA.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:26 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
theon helped sansa escape tho wth is he trying to say here
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link
Tv and book differences, but you might be on the jokes tangent?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link
I was also confused- apparently it's referring to the book events which are wildly different there.
― Evan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
the phrase "narrative blueballs" is everything wrong with the world
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
yeah, in the books Ramsey marries a fake Arya instead of Sansa
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
whos the fake arya is it the same fake arya as the show
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
concepcion is referring to a character who was only in like the show's pilot but experiences all the horrible shit that happens to sansa at ramsay's hands in the books and is passed off as arya stark by the boltons
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
(jeyne poole is her name iirc)
yrc
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I can see how that would be an unnecessary character at this stage, especially if Sansa just disappears in the meantime.
Best bits in this episode were Jaime and Bronn and the scene with Leanna Mormont. Davos is the only character in the whole thing who is actually good with kids.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 07:21 (seven years ago) link
Someone told me they thought that was Arya running in the preview and this leads me to think that the best way they could solve this is a) the waif was dressed up as Arya, trying to lure her out of hiding and b) Arya was dressed up as the old lady, revealing her disguise as the waif to a shocked waif-as-Arya as she stabbed her. c) The waif is dying. d) Someone - probably Jaqen - is coming for Arya-as-waif in the next episode.
It would work in terms of the arya-waif dynamic and you wouldn't have to invent stupid shit about Jaqen to make it work.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:05 (seven years ago) link
Wouldn't Arya had to have died at their hands in order for them to use her face? Like The Waif's face isn't her own and that's why Arya could also use it just before killing Meryn. Or did we see Arya's face in their stupid face library already? Maybe the promo ads suggested they could use any already-dead person's face. Either way this has got to be the stupidest idea in the books (which I've not read). I much preferred that blue lipped wizard's type of trickery.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link
no, it was used in an earlier episode.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link
her face, that is. The good thing about the explanation I just gave is that it lets Arya sort out her own problems, outsmarting her antagonist. I hvae no idea if that's where they're going with it of course but to me, at least, it would be more satisfying than frustrating.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, June 8, 2016 6:21 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
??
― Evan, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 11:51 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSM1wfuFlAw
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 11:59 (seven years ago) link
So does Jaqen just cut corpses' faces off to pass the time
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link
It's either that or parley with the waif.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link
*Arya takes off mask. It's waif. Waif takes off mask. It's a sheep rustler. Sheep rustler takes off mask. It's Sawyer. Sawyer takes off mask. It's horse.*
― germane geir hongro (s.clover), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
loved bean as sawyer
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izJbgzP1tRA
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link
https://thewholedangthing.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/meddlingkids1.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link
Did not know King Diamond did an episode of Scooby Doo.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
And he would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
The faceless thing is the nadir of the show this far. It's so boring and the kind of magic it is seems like a bad fit for the show over all. It stands out like a sore thumb.
― Analogue Bubblebutt (jed_), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
Disagree. It has went on a bit long but I think it's one of the more interesting parts.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
lol at the nadir of the show being anything but the treatment of dorne overall (and a fair amount of it is boring in the books too)
― pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
It's kinda funny that they just killed off half the characters in the premiere, and then didn't do anything about it since. They've even stopped talking about it. We're never going to hear anything more about Dorne again, I don't think, and that's probably for the best. Complete misfire.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link