Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

always good to remind myself that jill stein is not an option bc she's an extraordinarily confused person who makes bad arguments and seems to have gaping holes in her understanding of the world, and not just bc in a first past the post system only one of 2 candidates are going to win and she's not one of them.

the democrats are as bad as the republicans. except they're worse bc bill clinton and nafta bred extremism which is what makes people vote republican who are actually worse. therefore we shouldn't be afraid to vote third party bc fear of republicans just leads to voting for democrats which naturally just leads to voting for republicans so let's just skip right ahead to the electing republicans part. also we should switch over to ranked voting and it will apparently only require the signing of a pen. whose pen can independently change our electoral system idk but maybe this is inside information she doesn't want to share until after she's elected. oh, and bernie should join the green party but she thinks his many many years of being a loyal democrat (???) might not let him.

When Jill Stein compares Trump and Clinton on deportations, it's probably worth quoting that politico piece from upthread:

Minority voters have been watching in horror as millions of Republican voters choose Trump either because of, or despite, his open bigotry. The Sanders supporters who toy with the idea of shunning Clinton in November and allowing Trump to become president to force a revolution that Sanders couldn’t deliver are playing with fire. To minority voters, Trump’s candidacy feels like an existential threat. It’s one thing for Republicans to either ignore or embrace his racism; the party already seems unwilling or incapable of making the kinds of adjustments it must to attract more non-white voters. It’s quite another for white Democrats to not appreciate how liberal minorities feel about the possibility of a Trump presidency and what that would say about the state of racial progress in America. It would be a slap in the face, the latest sign that a kind of white privilege—throwing a temper tantrum because they don’t get their way despite how much it hurts people of color—is deeply rooted within liberal, Democratic ranks as well.

Yeah I mean immigrant advocates have been plenty unhappy and outspoken about Obama's deportations, but they're not going to say there's no difference between him and Trump (or the GOP in general).

Dont worry morbz is here to do it for them

excellent! where did i do that? just show me, genius.

I voted for Stein last time and don't see the point of doing it again even though she endorsed BDS last week. Lupe Fiasco all the way.

Dude u just linked to a jill stein post directly equating hillary's immigration policies w trump's like 5 posts up

LINKED you sodding fool

Oh so were trying to draw "attention" to her cuz u disagree? Clear as mud.

re Politico (Tiger Beat on the Potomac, as Chas Pierce calls it) quote: again, Trump "forces a revolution" with the "magic wand" that libs denied Sanders.

and for Phil D and others of his "shushhhhhh the truth on HRC" stripe:

@ggreenwald Apr 29

Is it really necessary to spend next 6 months pointing out that "criticism of Clinton" ≠ "support for Trump"? Just get a different tactic.

you guys should align with the Canadian Fanboy's centrist embrace of Mitt "Free Stuff" Romney above. Maybe send some money to Debbie W-S to look after your interests.

Yes. One person after another as of late calls you out for the creep you are. You should definitely redirect your attention to me.

gooble gobble

kansas is going blue??

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/11/just-in-new-zogby-poll-shows-trump-is-about-to-turn-this-very-red-state-to-dark-blue-stats/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link

That didn't last long.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/us/politics/meg-whitman-likens-donald-trump-to-fascists-at-republican-retreat.html

Morbs, the 'newly-politicized college freshman shouting powerful truths at the squares whose views are actually more nuanced than said freshman wants to believe' shtick is growing a little tiresome.

xxp and utah maybe? http://www.sltrib.com/news/3993058-155/poll-trumps-unpopularity-could-swing-utahns

OL, militarized corpo-Dems don't care how nuanced you are as long as you vote for them. You might as well be 80 million Lena Dunhams.

"The first time Obama was on Daily Show as president, Stewart said, to his face, that his actions were "timid.""

This is why I never watched that dude. Really, who the fuck are you to even talk, you lazy upper-middle-class soccer-major Jersey "comedian" who gets paid millions to stroke the superficiality of the politically vaguely-aware?

Nice how suddenly John Stewart is a liberal when you need him as a cudgel to beat Democrats. Why don't you stick to movies and baseball and other things you actually understand, or at least pretend to?

― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Saturday, June 11, 2016 8:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actualol

he's not a war criminal, at least. but i understand why that more respectable than being Jon Stewart.

howd ya dig Larry Wilmore's "you like raining bombs from long distances" line, gabby?

Always fun to revisit this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCfMgqnq2uo

and for Phil D and others of his "shushhhhhh the truth on HRC" stripe:

@ggreenwald Apr 29

Is it really necessary to spend next 6 months pointing out that "criticism of Clinton" ≠ "support for Trump"? Just get a different tactic.

You're so fucking dumb I don't know how you don't choke on your own toothbrush. If you find yourself passing on oppo research from Citzens United, you may want to take a deep breath and consider whose work you're actually doing.

Don't worry, the real Stalinists will reveal themselves as soon as Sanders endorses Clinton, which he will.

think yr arg miiiight be with ABC News

or the Clintonmonster

so are we every going to get the chance for morbz-free discussion or is this pretty much it through november

If us ilx arent able to ignore dr strawbius then us ilx is looking for a dr strawbius to pay attn to imo

howd ya dig Larry Wilmore's "you like raining bombs from long distances" line, gabby?

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:31 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"howd ya dig" his calling the President a "nigga"? the other "joke" was slightly more professional than but almost as deeply unserious as anything you've ever posted, including the implicit suggestion that wilmore, fellow fetus-botherer and resident of richer-than-beverly hills-san marino (he "commutes" to manhattan), is any less of a privileged nonentity than the better-educated stewart.

how'd you like that mass shooting this morning?

On a relevant note, my Veep shortlist down to two names, I think: Biden and Franken. Always a bridesmaid, that Tim Kaine.

looking forward to a locked thread of horrifying gabbneb/morbs exchanges

I hadn't thought about Franken, but the idea is intriguing.

Only intriguing, though. Not gonna happen.

Uh, if asking Morbs "how'd you like that mass shooting this morning?" is supposed to be some kind of gay-baiting it's in spectacularly bad taste. Actually it's in spectacularly bad taste no matter what.

Don't be that dumb

not very surprised with the utah and kansas polls. this election is going to be a bloodbath on par with Mondale/Reagan.

KS poll is mostly meaningless

I'll believe it when it happens, re: Utah.

"howd ya dig" his calling the President a "nigga"? the other "joke" was slightly more professional than but almost as deeply unserious as anything you've ever posted, including the implicit suggestion that wilmore, fellow fetus-botherer and resident of richer-than-beverly hills-san marino (he "commutes" to manhattan), is any less of a privileged nonentity than the better-educated stewart.

how'd you like that mass shooting this morning?

Wow, this is a supremely terrible post, what the fuck is wrong with you?

try thinking a little

Try never posting

through the power of precisely applied thinking that post will be suddenly not terrible

Please never post again benbbag

Thanks

through the power of precisely applied thinking that post will come within the range of my powers of comprehension

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, June 12, 2016 1:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ftfy

FPfy, fyi

delete your account xp

Trump 18 minutes ago on FB:

While I greatly appreciate everybody congratulating me for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congratulations, I want toughness and vigilance. We must finally be smart!

I would like to barf into his mouth

If anybody needs it: http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/show/7717

And no, Morbz, my "arrg" is not with ABC or other media outlets because despite the popular conception, the media has always disliked the Clintons and will breathlessly and uncritically report every ginned-up "controversy " that comes down the pike. That doesn't mean so-called "leftists" need to help them do it

If anybody needs it: http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/show/7717

― mick signals

thanks but i have gotten old and stupid and do not know how to internet anymore. :( i realize this is entirely my problem and i appreciate your trying to help anyway.

oh dear

now how will we learn what was said on the sunday morning shows, and which comedians and politicians went to higher-ranked colleges