Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

the new ruth lake is a good quiet album

the new laura mvula is a good album that is neither quiet nor loud

i listened to a dif juz record yesterday. it was pretty quiet. it has the bird from the cockatoo twins on it singing in a banana suit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A8h-nrTRY0

I'm still plenty busy following ILM, but if there are legitimate concerns about the message board going down the drains I was thinking maybe we should try to... recruit new (young) posters?

see you in 600 posts

I was thinking maybe we should try to... recruit new (young) posters?

How?

i bet if you looked it up the 10th post on ILM was that it wasn't as good as the good old days

Since I've gone over to the SNAside, I have no idea what ILM looks like these days. Isn't it all rolling (micro)genre threads and the occasional enormo-poll?

I remember in like 2001/2002 there was complaints about nu-ilx but my op wasnt about not being as good as it was, just that it was quiet and had been for quite a while.

tom you traitor

would prefer to have new ppl come in organically, though i realize social media has made message boards like these a relic of the past

a more natural approach would be trying to get lurkers, of which there are supposedly many, to post more often

but FWIW i don't think this board is particularly close to 'going down the drains'

neither do i. its not what i meant in the OP.

SNA does seem to be a big reason for ILM being quiet as noone is starting many threads or reviving there.
Do lots of people exclude ILM from their SNA in settings?

I exclude ILE from my SNA and treat it like its own thing, works much better that way around imo

same here, I only look at ILE rarely, like once a day. obv have some ILE threads bookmarked.

I've been visiting this board on and off since 2001, and frankly, there's an insularity that makes it hard for newcomers to feel welcome here. And jesus christ, every thread turns aggro and combative for the most retarded reasons. I can't even keep track of the number of valuable and interesting posters who have been chased out of here for the silliest and most overblown of reasons

ahahaha

Will say that from the mod side, there are new registrations every day. I used to be eager to see these new names start posting, but it almost never happens.

^^ tried regging a sock account thrice for a single joke post last week during the top 77. Three diff addresses, never got the confirmation email in either three accounts. ILM is a hostile place for socks.

ilx is like the freemasons, used to be cool and elite and mysterious, now just a bunch of old dudes wondering why nobody wants to learn our secret handshakes anymore.

anyway I think trump / collapse of america has done some good things for the board after a few years of decline. the site is more dynamic when there's actual news.

i personally feel that i don't have a ton of interesting things to say. i like reading it all tho

ditto

For me, the search function being out of service has been pretty limiting on my use of the board.

what is SNA?

Social Nerd Asshattery

site new answers

I've been visiting this board on and off since 2001, and frankly, there's an insularity that makes it hard for newcomers to feel welcome here. And jesus christ, every thread turns aggro and combative for the most retarded reasons. I can't even keep track of the number of valuable and interesting posters who have been chased out of here for the silliest and most overblown of reasons

― Poliopolice, Monday, February 6, 2017 12:30 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ahahaha

― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Monday, February 6, 2017 12:33 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and here it is, the reason we don't get new posters

Re: ILM specifically, I haven't listened to an album that was released in at least the past year (maybe the past two?) because oldness, and my thread revives about older stuff tend to dry on the vine. I like readin' y'all talking about stuff, though.

wait you mean my response xp

Would say that was obvious

not the guy turning aggro and combative and using the word 'retarded' while complaining about the site getting aggro and combative

lol

ILM has always been insular and prone to dumb aggro and that didn't stop it growing - it's much less unpleasant these days than it has been at times in the past. It's declining for the reason that message boards generally are declining - everyone's on social media instead. And it's a vicious cycle because even if you like the message board format better, there's not much motivation to put effort into a post when so few other people are. This isn't really a criticism or "we must do better", the board isn't dying yet and you can't artificially fix an organic decline.

There doesn't seem to be many new threads on ILM so perhaps we all should start new threads on new albums or bands rather than confine them to rolling threads?

Threads on new artists or singles (who aren't already very well known) get 5 answers max then die. This has been the case for years. If it weren't for rolling threads this place really would be completely dead (in terms of new music, I guess those infernal Old People Polls will never go away)

This reminds me, I have been meaning to start a poll: http://ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=41

nice. screwed up my joke with a bad copy/paste Vanilla Fudge: Classic or Dud?

I've been visiting this board on and off since 2001, and frankly, there's an insularity that makes it hard for newcomers to feel welcome here. And jesus christ, every thread turns aggro and combative for the most retarded reasons. I can't even keep track of the number of valuable and interesting posters who have been chased out of here for the silliest and most overblown of reasons

― Poliopolice, Monday, February 6, 2017 12:30 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ahahaha

― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Monday, February 6, 2017 12:33 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and here it is, the reason we don't get new posters

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, February 6, 2017 6:11 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've just been here a couple of years and yeah, it's not particularly welcoming, but it's more that unless you're talking about something like Afropop or old Arabic music there's going to be someone telling you whatever you like is shit and/or morally wrong in some way, and as a newcomer there's no way to judge how much of this is irony or performative hyperbole. I'm old enough now to not really care enough about this to storm off in a huff, but even five years ago I would've (mis)understood this to be some sort of personal animosity, and wouldn't have bothered any more. Also there is a lot of site-specific jargon.

As far as what keeps people reading... I mean deep conversations and insights are interesting but clusterfucks are so bright and glowing and the smoke rises up so high...

at this point I am FPing anybody who uses the r-word in this fashion so yeah I think Poliopolice's post was indicative of some problems.

I bet there are plenty of youth who wd dig the things we all dig abt ilx, maybe I should get twitter and start promoting it more or sth. Always feel a little weird linking back to this site, like the philistines will come storming our precious Paradise but that's probably not realistic.

sobering to think we could have inadvertently scared off the next poliopolice

Yeah seconding the general sentiment that tone of the board is pretty nasty. I joined I think in 2009 and after each of my first posts I was eviscerated for breaking thread etiquette I couldn't have possibly known about. (This may be part of why nobody starts new threads anymore, the second post is always some variation of "did we need a thread about this?")

I love this community because some of my favorite critics post here, and its a joy talking with most of you and getting new recommendations, but I don't post as often as I would just because there are also a lot of assholes here whose cattiness goes unchecked, and I just don't have the energy to get torn apart by strangers for voicing the most harmless opinion. Maybe it's fun for people looking for a flame war, but for those of us who just want to talk about music it isn't always worth it.

If it weren't for rolling threads this place really would be completely dead (in terms of new music, I guess those infernal Old People Polls will never go away)

you're not down with O.P.P.?

poliopolice is intimidating to young ones

http://c.tribune.com.pk/2013/01/491230-PolioPhotoonline-1357680121-543-640x480.JPG

What we need are YPPs.

I'm coming up on 9 years here, I post occasionally but there's been a decline in folks like Bimble who wore their enthusiasm on their sleeve and were equally excited to talk about young bands as well as old. It was contagious.

And speaking of old bands and old dogs, I'm not sure there's much more to be said on many long running threads. I can enthuse about band X or Y, or stand up and proclaim "I have discovered the greatness of so-and-so at this late date" but the response is understandably muted.

I still enjoy the places I dip into and love how ILM reminds me to play something old or check out something new. I tried using Facebook's "Present Listening" and similar groups but 1} the lack of easily viewed discussion history is a turn off and 2} you quickly see the same group of classic albums being extolled.

my reign of terror knows no limit. who is safe from the sting of derision

prince died and now there isn't music anymore

sometimes there is outright boneheaded meanness on ILX, like anywhere else on the internet, but a certain amount of piss-taking is never a bad thing if it makes people up their posting game compared to other internet forums.
you don't measure a site's goodness by the sheer volume of stuff being said, and what made ILX originally popular or attractive to most of its users was due to this quality control, however it might've hurt the feelings of people who feel like they ran foul of it.

tbh, pretty much every poster on the board has fallen foul of it at some point. cuddlier, more anodyne forums are available.

I don't buy the 'nobody joins because we're all assholes' theory cause ilx has always been full of assholes. if anything this place is less scary now that it's 40 y/o dads swapping PTA meeting notes and not 25 y/o hipsters.

doctor casino you're one of my favorite posters, i'd definitely follow you on twitter