Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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haha yes!

coygbiv (NickB), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 10:15 (seven years ago) link

I'm told Boris Johnson has made clear to Tory right he WILL end EU free movement after Telegraph column y'day angered ppl.

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/747737590451814400

The big think-pieces drying up today, huh

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 10:26 (seven years ago) link

Farage:

"You all laughed at me. Well, you're not laughing now, are you?"
― stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 10:47

Farage is Walder Frey.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link

Here's Farage's speech if you can stomach it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36650014

the toast of every coast (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 11:25 (seven years ago) link

Family rifts over Brexit: ‘I can barely look at my parents’

Jamie, 28, grew up in a council flat with a single mother who worked hard to make their difficult life better for her children. “I’ve always been so proud of her for all the things she sacrificed for us. She’s warm, kind, generous and funny. She has such acute sympathy that she’s been known to cry hearing about the illness of other people’s relatives. Oh, and she also hates immigrants.”

It is not a prejudice that Jamie shares. “My mum voted to leave the EU because she doesn’t want non-British citizens here. Despite the fact that my brother and I have been extremely vocal about our reasons for staying in, she’s chosen to vote out because she doesn’t like the local Asian population. It makes no sense to me.

“When she tells me wildly embellished stories about how disgusting the local peaceful, quiet, mostly elderly immigrant community are, I laugh at her and calmly tell her she’s wrong. Most of the time, I can see past her views. But right now, I’m angry and ashamed.”

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 11:32 (seven years ago) link

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/06/another-media-setup/

Craig Murray is an unreliable weirdo but this did raise eyebrows. I didn't know the Pride heckler was a PR.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link

Has farage had a proper job? Wasn't he a trader? Did he have some old productive work I haven't heard about?

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 12:56 (seven years ago) link

Wasn't he a commodity broker for a while?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:00 (seven years ago) link

He worked on the London Metals Exchange, the only open-outcry exchange left in Europe (and the exchange with the highest levels of drunkenness, allegedly).

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link

Stephen Crabb is standing for Tory leader

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

too ugly

conrad, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link

bit of a sideways move?

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

xp the Corbyn Pride heckler was outed as a PR shill almost the second the footage was made public. Corbyn was at the Orlando vigil with all of the shadow cabinet and has gone to Pride and similar longer than that silly little twink yuppie has been alive.

jedi slimane (suzy), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

Why is Farage like he is? When he says "you're not laughing now" he's practically reverberating with emotion. I'm really intrigued by the psychology / identity politics of it.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

have you ever heard of egomania

conrad, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

Well yeah, but why is he also a fascist, why does he have this victim thing going on?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

Oh, his dad left the family home when Nige was 5.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

xp That's basically what fascism is?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

And was an alcoholic.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

That's what he is but why.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

MPs are choosing between Watson and Angela Eagle to be the Corbyn challenger, Sky says

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

Oh, his dad left the family home when Nige was 5.

someone could find this sort of thing very offensive Hey Bob

conrad, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

cool we've reached the pop psychoanalysis bit of the links thread

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link

Sept 9th for announcement of new Tory leader

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

Corbyn loses no confidence vote 172 to 40

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link

212 out of 229(?) voted

coygbiv (NickB), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

Corrected figs from @iainjwatson: 176 no confidence, 40 support, 4 abstentions

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

Passed an old Greek guy in the street earlier, "The English! They've gone crayzy!" Don't think he was too sane himself though.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

George Eaton Verified account
‏@georgeeaton

40 MPs back Corbyn. That means he'd need 10 MEPs if not on the ballot automatically.

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/747816359325761537

coygbiv (NickB), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

That Farage speech is O_O. EU has UK over a barrel and he's just baring his ass and telling them to pucker up. Reminded of Rhodes in Day of the Dead, pointlessly frothing and indignant to the bitter end as he's being pulled to pieces.

There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

Kippers will be lapping up Farage (and Nuttall) behaviour in Euro Parliament. I'm a bit surprised The Sun still aren't cheering him on in public.

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

The Sun is behaving very oddly. That they've even admitted this is having a "rocky start" is unusual too.

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

Ben Judah
‏@b_judah
As in the USSR, there is immensely charismatic out of control Boris promising a fraudulent "independence" the elite are unable to check.

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

Can only be a matter of time before the tanks roll in to shell Parliament.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

Any chance of a revolution? Or is this inherently one, just in totally the wrong direction.
Is there any way this won't be negative for way too many.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

One of the 40 who voted for Corbyn has now recanted so he's down to 39.

Paul Mason is reporting that if Corbyn wins, he'll devolve more power to the members and put mandatory reselection in place so MPs can be replaced if they don't have the backing of their local party.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Pound-Socioeconomic-Implications-European-ebook/dp/B01HJXVP8G?ie=UTF8&ref_=asap_bc#navbar

Humorous gay erotica writer Chuck Tingle's newest book Pounded By The Pound: Turned Gay By The Socioeconomic Implications Of Britain Leaving The European Union.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

George Eaton so take with a massive pinch of salt but he's reporting that the reason nobody has challenged Corbyn officially is that they still think he'll resign, which is optimistic.

It's pretty funny to see part of the anti-Corbyn group stomping their feet, abusing him and the "£3 members" and generally acting like spoiled children and another section saying "Corbyn needs to go immediately but in a leadership election against someone supporting an end to free movement / who voted for Iraq / etc I'd vote for him".

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

@JenWilliamsMEN: Wow. Farage on Mcr's racist tram thugs: 'I'd say to them that if they had those feelings those feelings should not be as strong this week'

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

xyzzz was asking in the other thread about what the work on the civil service/whitehall side might look like - think this might be a solid guess:

http://infacts.org/henry-viii-perils-brexit/
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/constitution-unit/research/europe/index/edit/constitution-unit/research/europe/briefing-papers/briefing-paper-1

might be some shortcuts, but this is just digital govt geeks taking a guess:
https://twitter.com/richardjpope/status/747788280192708609

woof, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

tx looking now.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/747682225143984128

TIMES POLL: Should Jeremy Corbyn resign?
Public: 49% Yes, 30% No
Labour voters: 54% No, 35% Yes
(YouGov/Times)

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

Oh the fannies

There's obligations to be met to be the official opposition in the HofC. Lab now can't meet then. Tomorrow the SNP will seek to replace them
https://twitter.com/PeteWishart/status/747898026157608965

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

https://i.imgflip.com/16lg9z.jpg

cozen, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

@tnewtondunn Wow, Merkel wants a #Brexit rethink. Chf of stf Peter Altmaier, UK "should have the possibility to reconsider the consequences of an exit"

The Associated Press ‏@AP 10m10 minutes ago
BREAKING: Germany's Merkel says she sees no way to reverse British EU exit vote.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

Dutch PM Rutte gives delay on Art 50 triggering, because: "England has collapsed politically, monetarily, constitutionally and economically"

^ gets it.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 06:58 (seven years ago) link


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