i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

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zaza is 32 and will probably regress

k3vin k., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link

He's also v bad at defense and Rim protection which is really all they need from a center

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

He's also v bad at defense and Rim protection which is really all they need from a center

Otoh both of his arms work

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link

He'll be fine and that's a great price obv

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link

zaza is 32 and will probably regress

Bogut will be 32 in two months and had a significant injury yet again

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link

Andrew Bogut more like Andrew Bigot amirite.

Nicholas Nickelback (Leee), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link

I thought we were in a new era where big men didn't matter what happened to that

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link

someone tried to beat smallball by getting every rebound and it worked iirc

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link

there is a flight tracker of a plane from miami to cleveland that's bouncing around my twitter

just sayin

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

I doubt Wade gives them much more than they got from JRpert in the playoffs but I guess he could have a renaissance

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link

he averaged 21, 5.5, 4.3 on 47% from the floor in the playoffs last year, nothing to shake your head at

Clay, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link

What the fuck

Free agent guard Seth Curry is finalizing a two-year, $6M deal with the Dallas Mavericks, league sources tell @TheVertical.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link

he also made like half of his career 3s in those last couple games vs hornets

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:05 (seven years ago) link

Harrison Barnes getting the max and Curry getting 3m is not a rational marketplace

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:07 (seven years ago) link

is this the start of some movie where the 2 brothers switch places and no one notices

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:08 (seven years ago) link

I read that as Stephen Curry the first time and was really confused

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link

lol that mavs squad will still win like 48 games most likely

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link

I thought we were in a new era where big men didn't matter what happened to that

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, July 4, 2016 8:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

someone tried to beat smallball by getting every rebound and it worked iirc

― ciderpress, Monday, July 4, 2016 9:32 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

well big men matter during the regular season because playing small exclusively would be too physically taxing. but the cavs won game 7 w/o playing a traditional center which makes 2 straight champions that severely deemphasized the position.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:27 (seven years ago) link

you need big men to bang during the regular season & during the playoffs ideally you have big men to be flexible depending on the matchup or series but the best teams are playing small. okc's run in the playoffs could maybe be a counterpoint to that but even they were at their absolute best w/ kd at the 4.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:29 (seven years ago) link

& even teams w/ dominant centers (pistons, 2016 heat, 2015 rockets) wanna play "small" w/ a combo of guards & wings or in the case of the rockets want to play 4 out w/ a traditional stretch 4

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link

what could have been

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4fzup5hAw1qgcd16o1_1280.jpg

nomar, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:34 (seven years ago) link

the thunder should trade steven adams for james harden

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:36 (seven years ago) link

can someone with good hoops acumen explain why this has happened? is it (a) lots more dudes are better at shooting 3s (b) illegality of handsy defense, (c) something else?

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:36 (seven years ago) link

i'm interested mostly in how this affects @7A_NBA

https://twitter.com/7A_NBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

nomar, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link

can someone with good hoops acumen explain why this has happened? is it (a) lots more dudes are better at shooting 3s (b) illegality of handsy defense, (c) something else?

― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Monday, July 4, 2016 10:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think it's that the league realized the value of the 3 pointer and so guys who can't shoot are gradually being filtered out of rotations and/or the nba. it seems like playing thru the post is generally matchup dependent now. also a lot of teams are valuing centers who can guard out to and along the perimeter, and that requires a level of athleticism that prob negatively correlates with post moves.

also consequently teams fully realize the value of spacing that comes from having good shotoers.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link

the flip side is that guys like demarcus cousins are especially unguardable but teams realize it takes an especially skilled or overwhelming post player to emphasize that part of an offense over the spacey/shooty style

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

also zone defences make it really difficult to post up unmolested

micah, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link

gonna be kind of awkward on team USA with durant/barnes/dray/klay all there huh

k3vin k., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 04:19 (seven years ago) link

You know I bet Barnes is p happy.

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 04:47 (seven years ago) link

yeah barnes seems like one of those guys who lacks an edge and will be happy getting paid on a bad team

micah, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 04:51 (seven years ago) link

& even teams w/ dominant centers (pistons, 2016 heat, 2015 rockets) wanna play "small" w/ a combo of guards & wings or in the case of the rockets want to play 4 out w/ a traditional stretch 4

Whiteside is the only of those three who could credibly be called dominant imo

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 05:18 (seven years ago) link

I thought we were in a new era where big men didn't matter what happened to that

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, July 4, 2016 8:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

someone tried to beat smallball by getting every rebound and it worked iirc

― ciderpress, Monday, July 4, 2016 9:32 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

well big men matter during the regular season because playing small exclusively would be too physically taxing. but the cavs won game 7 w/o playing a traditional center which makes 2 straight champions that severely deemphasized the position.

The Warriors played traditional centers 80% of the time.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 05:19 (seven years ago) link

kinda weird that KD is younger than Steph. feels like he's been in the league so much longer.

Just had a thought that dray klay kd curry and jerry west should all head over to Larry Sanders' house and have a little chat

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 06:36 (seven years ago) link

so warriors/thunder has to be xmas day feature game right, assuming they don't trade Russ in a panic

Clay, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link

If it's true that horford would have signed with the thunder that would be hard to swallow for OKC

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link

a tale of two centers

http://i.imgur.com/JuPKH6m.png

micah, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:33 (seven years ago) link

league moves fast

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

bigs gotta be able to move their feet

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

jaylen brown > ben simmons https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/750334495870611460

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

Gerald Henderson 2/18 to 76ers

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link

russ needs to go to the spurs next year

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

also then move the spurs to the east

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

until then the nba is dead

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

i could see russ on the spurs

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link

probably just join the warriors for the minimum tho #whynot

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

in my opinion there's been too much Signing and not enough Trading

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

this was always destined to be an offseason of signing dude to the weird cap sitch

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

i guess the problem is every former contract is under-market now so no team that's feinging contention this year can afford to trade anyone

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

yeah basically every long-term contract that was signed last year is gold

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

a tale of two centers
― micah, Tuesday, July 5, 2016 6:33 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Craziest thing about this to me is that in Dallas mahinmi looked like the kind of utterly fungible big man who would end up with one more little contract probably as a practice body for a contender with no money then vanish into Europe or w/e and now he's like an ideal b-level center

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link


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