rolling PEDs/steroids/placebos 2015 thread

bcz we don't see any hard evidence that drugs make you better at baseball

i can't top your first ten words, however

:)

I can't think of a sport where drugs don't help, though.

all drugs, by all takers? that is an absurd supposition, but entirely in keeping with your rigorous analysis of everything.

even if they don't increase your ability to sock dingers they do help keep injuries at bay

as always thank god the NFL is drugfree

http://www.denverbroncos.com/assets/images/imported/DEN/photos/centerpiece/homepage/2015/09-September/150923_manning_CP.jpg

I'd be amazed if the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, is drug free. Also, real football. Weren't there rumblings that the Spanish doping doctors connected to cycling stars were also doing a lot for football players, at Spanish clubs in particular? Can't see why baseball should be uniquely good or bad. Perhaps it's just that steroids impact the body in really obvious ways?

'real football'

We are not arguing if the Major Leagues are drug-free or aren't, we know it is, cause unlike other pro. sports baseball is ahead of the curve by not ignoring the issue altogether. What we are discussing is if the performance enhancing drugs have that much of an effect on a player's career, the answer would be more complicated than you suggest Fred, because that's how life works.

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/09/29/jesus-montero-suspended-50-games-for-use-of-a-stimulant/