ILM Artist Poll No. 77 · CAN · Voting Thread [Ends 07/24/16]

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this is a great little piece from Holger on Jaki
http://www.czukay.de/can/comments/images/jaki_ho.jpg
Apparently he plays piano like he plays the drums: "during the recordings of "the east is red" he played piano for hours, always the same type of sequence."
And I love Holger's POV on his bass playing (when he started doing it in Can): "my feeling for rhythm was a bit like someone running around in an earthquake not knowing where to escape."

willem, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

Exc lesser-known Malcom Mooney joint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIKOpfuFcd0

marcos en los angeles (lpz), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

Malcolm ugh still waking up

marcos en los angeles (lpz), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

Wow I have never heard "Turtles Have Short Legs"! It is good!

Nicholas Nickelback (Leee), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

I love the way the song-suites are edited fwiw. Never seemed "cute" or saccharine but lighthearted maybe. Nothin wrong w that.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

I didn't know turtles was on a 7" with the halleluwah edit. I had it as the b side of a 12" of Moonshake. First can record I was ever able to find in the mid 80s.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 July 2016 12:52 (seven years ago) link

I was floored when I realized the melody to "Turtles" was later borrowed wholesale for the car level in Parappa the Rapper

frogbs, Thursday, 14 July 2016 12:55 (seven years ago) link

I was too! Is Turtles available on Spotify anywhere?

One thing that may get some legit representation in my ballot: stuff from the mid-70s records, Landed, Flow Motion and Saw Delight. Maybe not stone cold amazing like the records up thru Babaluma, but a number of great pop songs and weird, 15 minute tape edit freak outs.

Also, would be fun to poll the Ethnomusicological Forgery Series.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:01 (seven years ago) link

Currently on my sixth spin of Soon Over Babaluma of the day (it flies by!), helps to get stuff done. It's all great but side 2's amaaazing.

― willem, woensdag 13 juli 2016 14:43 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've done this today and man, I forgot just how great it is (and indeed it seems to speed up time! ;)). Difficult to pick a cut from it though, it's such a cohesive record.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link

Xpost the album version of animal waves is gonna be on my ballot for sure

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

Exactly. Don't sleep on those lesser known records. If anything I have work to do w the Mooney era.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:07 (seven years ago) link

Also X post, Ethnological

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:07 (seven years ago) link

Yeah there are a number of tracks from those albums I'm gonna have to put on. "Half Past One" always pops into my head, such a great jam. And Saw Delight rules, it's kinda weird as a Can album, but it's so much fun.

Luckily Can albums only have like 4-7 tunes on them, so this'll be easier than say the Devo ballot was.

frogbs, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:07 (seven years ago) link

I've got a decent MP3 of Turtles that I could email out if anyone wanted it?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link

I didn't know turtles was on a 7" with the halleluwah edit. I had it as the b side of a 12" of Moonshake. First can record I was ever able to find in the mid 80s.

Got that 12" too! I love Can's pop side, could fill and entire Top 20 with pop tracks, I reckon. I am desperately trying to squeeze their version of "Silent Night" into my ballot, I love it so much.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link

Looks like Turtles is on Spotify -- on some Cherry Red singles comp of all places. Oddly, it is kind of one of the definitive Can tracks, with Damo's crazy vocal on the verse, the amazing Irmin piano part and, of course, Jaki absolutely killing it on the tom toms.

Another thing worth polling/contemplating/discussing is the Can razor blade epics -- not just Tago Mago but also things like Cutaway, Animal Waves, Unfinished, etc.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

I am desperately trying to squeeze their version of "Silent Night" into my ballot, I love it so much.

Ditto! I play the 7" every xmas

willem, Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

Looks like Turtles is on Spotify -- on some Cherry Red singles comp of all places.

The 12" single mentioned above was on Cherry Red.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

Has anyone seen any of the films served by Soundtracks? Are they grainy color stock of Baader Meinhof-resembling youth wandering listlessly through Ruhr housing tracts intercut with solarized closeups of eyeballs?

juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Saw "Deep End" years ago, before I knew who Can were.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

... though I was probably about 11 or 12 at the time, so can't really be blamed for that.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

Has anyone seen any of the films served by Soundtracks? Are they grainy color stock of Baader Meinhof-resembling youth wandering listlessly through Ruhr housing tracts intercut with solarized closeups of eyeballs?

― juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy)

nah they're early '70s german cop shows, sort of the equivalent of quinn martin shows.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

After many years in limbo, Deep End was re-released on a handsome looking BFI DVD/BluRay a few years ago. Film is pretty close to being a masterpiece, imho - Skolimowski collaborated w/ Polanski on Knife in the Water, and Deep End has a lot of the same combo of black comedy and creeping psychological menace. Mother Sky is the icing on the cake.

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 14 July 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

One of the all-time great film posters, too

https://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/92/MPW-46169

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 14 July 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

can i just complain here about there being nowhere on the net to buy repros of those crazy communist eastern european versions of film posters? i would totally hang a polish weekend at bernie's poster on my wall but i'd have to buy an original, and ain't nobody got money for that.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

One of my favorite lesser Can songs
This video always makes me happy even though Michael Karoli isn't in it
And in case anyone wondered how many "and more"s there are in that one part, there are 20

https://youtu.be/E0nfjguTclg

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 July 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

sorry that was "i want more"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 July 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

This "Vernal Equinox" on the Old Grey Whistle Test has 1) awesome Irmin Schmidt dancing and attire 2) Karoli looking a lot like Chris Gaines/Garth Brooks and 3) clear view of Jaki going bananas

https://youtu.be/I4nHr44vE9I

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 July 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

yes, that Vernal Equinox clip is a personal favorite

who is the guy playing guitar in the I Want More video? didn't Karoli play on the album?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 14 July 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

youtube commenters seem to think it's tim hardin but idk?!
karoli is on flow motion, i just looked

"I Want More" is such a great stupid song.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 July 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

also, the drum groove on Vernal Equinox is bonkers. That and Animal Waves are my 2 favorite Jaki beats.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 14 July 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

I've always felt that Yoo Doo Right was somewhat underrated. I think I prefer it to Sister Ray, which is probably the closest competition, and am also always struck by how much it resembles a slowed down Immigrant Song.

Mercury 422 830 398, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

"I Want More" is Top 10 Can for me. Don't know who the guy in TOTP clip is, looks more like Lou Reed than Tim Hardin. Maybe it's Peter Gilmour?

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

LIVE Yoo Doo Right is top 3 for me; the original isn't nearly as good imo. Ugh the live version is SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOD

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

Tim Hardin!?!?

best beloved trumppence (crüt), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link

xp which live version??? I LOVE the studio version

also, the Geraldine Fibbers cover of that is so great

sleeve, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link

xpost which live version?

btw this is a good time to apologize for sitting on this poll for a long time. i don't know why i signed up for it and then did nothing. it's true that i've been too busy this summer to run it (wedding, honeymoon, and now moving) but i should have at least said why i was busy and set up a good time to do this fall. i suck, sorry, but glad it's in good hands now and really looking forward to results!

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

The studio version is live anyway. In the studio, that is.

(xp) Tim Hardin sang at a few concerts with them in 1976, when they were still looking for a new lead singer.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

The Yoo Doo Right from Live 71-77 -- fewer words, heavy groove, applause at the end that I can pretend is for me.

If there's another live one I need to hear it!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

that's the one I assumed but I don't know if I've ever heard it!

I assume all version of a song would be totaled together as usual, yes?

sleeve, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

Gonna try to vote in this! And I don't know how many Rite Time tracks I will include but surely "On the Beautiful Side of a Romance."

timellison, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

Pretty decent sounding 1974 show up for live show available for download here:

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2961

marcos en los angeles (lpz), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

The Yoo Doo Right from Live 71-77 -- fewer words, heavy groove, applause at the end that I can pretend is for me.

If there's another live one I need to hear it!!

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera)

i got a bootleg from volkshalle 1971 with damo singing it (he's not on the 71-77 version, right?). it's pretty good.

that birmingham '74 show is a great one, them at their peak imo.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

It's probably not likely to place, but: is the Inner Space material eligible?

I expect to be voting for a number of tracks from Landed (and Flow Motion) and hope others do too, especially "Red Hot Indians," which has that wonderful quality where two different sonic universes seem to run on converging lanes. That album seems generally underrated. I don't know Can history much but it's interesting that this really feels like a "driving" album (apart from "Unfinished") and it came out not long after Autobahn, where (despite moments of tension) the car drives itself along more or less peacefully. On Landed we seem to be in the presence of a very aggressive driver who insists on making the car a rocketship.

The first Can I heard was "Babylonian Pearl" on this Virgin Value CD3 sampler, whose purchase sent my dad and I driving to electronics stores to find an adapter so it would load in the CD player. I did eventually buy all the parent albums sampled, too. Well done, Virgin Records.

https://img.discogs.com/Ab-e4YuaHUyRN8R33ryB-fQnUvw=/fit-in/500x438/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1851158-1247957817.jpeg.jpg

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 14 July 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

Two ballots so far.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 14 July 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

Plenty of time :)

24 Hour Sex Ban Man (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link

Started listening through in chronological order today and realized this was going to be even harder than I thought.

dronestreet, Friday, 15 July 2016 03:01 (seven years ago) link

I might have to add more songs from Landed

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 15 July 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link

"Half Past One" will be top five for me, I think. A remarkable creation.

timellison, Friday, 15 July 2016 03:59 (seven years ago) link

i had never heard landed. it's great! flow motion not as much, though i dig "i want more".

mom us (map), Friday, 15 July 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link

jon you are the only person i know who has scored Soundtracks!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 21 July 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

Tago Mago.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Saturday, 22 July 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

I'm an unusual fellow

or at night (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 22 July 2017 00:21 (six years ago) link

huh, i got soundtracks too

i don't know what my favorite can song is though. "bel air" maybe.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link

I got Soundtracks too

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 22 July 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link

jon you are the only person i know who has scored Soundtracks!!

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, July 21, 2017 6:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark

this turned out to be false -- i remembered another person. i really wanted to be tago mago or soundtracks but i guess i am so much fun that i had to be 'can'
i do find it amusing how difficult it is to search Can's "Can Can" from Can without the word "band" or another word distinguishing it from an endless stream of can can can can

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 22 July 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Rosko Gee is Jamaican for Ricky Fatar

I keep forgetting that one of my friends is a Facebook friend of Rosko Gee - I noticed he replied to a post on Trump (don't worry, he's agin him).

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 20 April 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link


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