australia is tearing itself apart over same-sex marriage

ugh. i really hope some media take a stand on this and just refuse to air the negative side. "i want to stop some people getting a certificate for the following reasons" uh no.

"Isn't Turnbull brave for putting his convictions on the line and getting a mandate from the Australian people? What do you think, Tony Jones?"

I fucking hate this country

EWWW GAYS ARE PROMISCUOUS AND GROSS WHY CAN'T THEY JUST SETTLE DOWN IN SAFE MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIPS

EWWW GAYS ARE GROSS THEY WANT TO GET MARRIED

otfm

"if the plebiscite comes in as 'no' then ~the gays~ will just have to accept it as the will of the people" <-- triggers the hell out of me

I mean idec because the minute I find someone who's willing to look at my face and my knob interchangeably without running away I'll just take 'em to Sweden to get married and fuck everyone

The real reason I care isn't because I care about marriage, is because I care about the people who are going to be affected by this plebiscite. Queer people in rural areas. Trans people. Kids in schools that can have all the chaplains they can eat. Not paleo-eating knobheads in Adam Bandt and Alex Greenwich country who, apart from not getting married, have no problems bigger than their coffee order being wrong. The unfortunate people are gonna get bashed so badly when Cory Bernardi starts up.

These knobheads are the canary in the coal mine for people who have bigger problems which will get bigger still when their communities and families are taught once again how to hate them, or how to hate them better.

exactly 100% this. a publicly funded national bullying campaign is potentially immensely damaging to real people who are just trying to get through the day. this buzzfeed longform piece about kids in rural qld sums up how bad things are already without a plebiscite to inflate suicides &c.

Someone needs to publicly point out to Turnbull that the blood of every person who commits suicide during, or after this, is on his hands.

OH BUT HE SOMETIMES CATCHES PUBLIC TRANSPORT AND IS PRO-REPUBLIC!!!!!!111!!!!11!! <3 MODERATE MALCOLM

Someone needs to publicly point out to Turnbull that the blood of every person who commits suicide during, or after this, is on his hands.

the distinguishing factor between the two 'sides' is that no acl nutjob is going to commit suicide because two people in another suburb can apply for a certificate, but shit the acl pulls every single day puts lgbti people (especially kids) in jeopardy.

Churchy La Femme is a POGO joke! Fr chrissakes

Xxp

[coalition frontbencher throws a smoke bomb on the ground]

fellas can we focus on the real scandal: bill shorten and his medicare props

the election was less than two months ago and already the plebiscite has almost certainly been delayed until next year.

meanwhile there's growing resentment that "sides" of the "debate" will be publicly funded.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-13/cabinet-signs-off-on-plans-to-hold-same-sex-marriage-plebiscite/7837464

the government has set 11 february 2017 as the voting date.

if it goes ahead, each "side" will receive $7.5m in funding. that means taxpayers will give bigots $7.5m to be bigots.

however, it's likely the opposition and other parties will stop the public vote happening at all, by blocking the plebiscite legislation in parliament.

GOOD I HOPE THEY BLOCK IT FOREVER FUCK THIS PLEBISCITE IN ITS ANUS AND IF ANY OF YOUR FRIENDS SUPPORT IT KICK THEM IN THE TESTICLES. I SAY THAT BECAUSE LIKE MOST INTERVENING CUNTS, IT IS EXTREMELY LIKELY THIS FRIEND IS A CUNT MAN

Oh no we Parliamentarians can't decide. Only the Australian public know best. Which is why we have to spend $15 million on helping them come to the decision that we already said they know best about.

Rowan Dean is kickable at all times but god last night when he said that gay people wanted the plebiscite I nearly kicked my TV screen in

rowan dean is filth

GOOD I HOPE THEY BLOCK IT FOREVER FUCK THIS PLEBISCITE IN ITS ANUS AND IF ANY OF YOUR FRIENDS SUPPORT IT KICK THEM IN THE TESTICLES.

i have nil tolerance for anyone who supports this plebiscite, and i'm actively cutting out people who scream "LET THE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR SAY" as if being a bigot is more important than equality. no fucking time for that shit.

Rowan dean needs putting through a lawnmower

this whole disgraceful fucking circus is officially dead

Now they just want to change the law so they can slag off gays with impunity

Rowan dean needs putting through a lawnmower

― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 10:25 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he is a blood boiler

Now they just want to change the law so they can slag off gays with impunity

let's think about who the REAL victims are here

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/dec/29/dean-smith-prospect-of-a-parliamentary-vote-on-marriage-equality-brighter-than-ever

maybe more coalition members/senators will push for a parliamentary vote now that the fucking plebiscite is dead (although not technically, even though there's no money budgeted for it)

mardi gras parade is this weekend. theme is equality. the prime minister isn't going because everyone hates his guts for pissing on said equality. the opposition leader will be there.

oh and we're still in marriage equality limbo because the government is a vast ocean of bigoted hacks

a government minister (pyne) was recorded saying same-sex marriage might happen soon. bigots in the party were so angry about this tiny remark that they threatened to tear down the prime minister. pyne has since apologised for being nice to gay people. this country is a fucking joke.

Yes but you have that nice cardinal from there setting a fine example oh wait.

you can bet the worst bigots in government will back pell to the hilt

...poorly phrased.

uh oh, what did i say?

Hahah I was just making a bad joke.

JFC the Daily Telegraph:

https://pedestriantv-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/article/2017/07/12/tele-619-386-619-386.png

murdoch press being an insane pack of fucking bigots again, what a surprise

Smashed avo is turning the kids into fat, gay druggies; no wonder they can't afford to buy houses. Probably Turing them foreign too, better send them to manus island, quick.

australia enjoys putting people at a disadvantage and then blaming the disadvantaged for being disadvantaged

you want to buy a house? stop eating this fruit in particular. you want to get married? stop being gay. you're unemployed? get a made-up job that doesn't exist you lazy bastard.

I thought the new thing was to get an unpaid job at Woolies, displacing someone getting paid for it.

oh yeah, that too. the government is handing out corporate welfare cheques subsidies to businesses to employ slave labour interns to do the shit nobody else wants to do gain valuable work experience while simultaneously fucking up wage scales for everyone else reducing unemployment.

I have an ABN and an untidy house, am tempted to get an intern or two

work them to death, keep the benefits, buy a house

I have an ABN and an untidy house, am tempted to get an intern or two

― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 July 2017 8:09 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Genius, and there's me paying for a cat sitter whilst I'm away.

Oh ffs, Ludlam was actually one of the good ones

if tony abbott gets booted for being half-english, it will all have been worth it. well almost.

TBF he should be booted for being a prick, but unfortunate he represents warringah

can't wait to get rid of the head of state on that 'citizen of another country' technicality

pato m8 the king and queen of moomba come under separate rules

now our braindead government is pushing for a voluntary public vote conducted through the post

australia the australian government is tearing itself apart over same-sex marriage

this week has been astonishing. one backbencher says "i'll cross the floor to make this happen", a powerbroking bigot says "ohhhh no you don't, here's a threat to your job/power/preselection if you even fucking dare", repeat like a hundred times. and a new batch of threats that the prime minister will be torn down if he even dares to treat gay people like human beings. OVER FUCKING NOTHING.

the press is unanimous in rolling its eyes. everyone can see what a joke this is and everyone's exhausted.
the lgbtiq community is a mess atm, if joy melbourne (radio station) is any indication.

(fwiw i hate referring to "the lgbt community" like there's a hivemind, but now that the govt is forcing us to compartmentalise every lgbtiq person like fucking cattle it's difficult not to)

Its worth remembering theyre not - I actually have some LGBT friends who are vehemently anti marriage, see it as a cis/religious/patriarchal institution not worth scrabbling for and I have to admit, I kinda get that. While this is an important thing to legislate for, I cant help but wearily think "but marriage is a religiously-created crock of fucking shite that made women chattel anyway so fuck it all"

Like - Abbot and his comments about how marriage was "protecting women and children" all thru the ages. HA HA FUCKING WHAT. We were OWNED. We were RAPEABLE. We were CHATTEL and CATTLE. We were non human items to be traded for wars and kingdoms and kings. Fuck off with your protecting women shit tones.

I have friends like that, but I also have friends who are gay and deeply want to express they commitment in the form of marriage. Choice is a wonderful thing.

What do Tony and the gang hope to achieve, do they get an extra hand shandy from Jesus for every day they delay this? Tony the fuck stick wants to make this about the politically correct elites vs the true blue battlers. It con tines to be nasty and painful and will only get worse.

yeah it's all so fucking transparent (xp to trayce)

What do Tony and the gang hope to achieve

just bigotry, nothing else

holy shit penny wong's senate speech

plebiscite defeated in the senate

A good thing, yes?

depends on what consider to be "good", because now they're going to stage a postal survey instead, which is basically the same thing but non-compulsory and completely unreliable

A survey? Uh.

i'm doing a faq atm

Like - Abbot and his comments about how marriage was "protecting women and children" all thru the ages. HA HA FUCKING WHAT. We were OWNED. We were RAPEABLE. We were CHATTEL and CATTLE. We were non human items to be traded for wars and kingdoms and kings. Fuck off with your protecting women shit tones.

this is such a great post

otm

heh thanks :) I may have got a little cranky thar.

"Are gay people people? y/n": The Australian Marriage Equality Voluntary Postal Survey Thread

actually i fuicked up the formatting, will ask for it to be deleted

although edited will do

Hats off Trayce, said it hard and said it well.