~~~ 15 YEARS OF ILM POLL!!! ~~~ (Metal & Heavy Rock [+ related sub-genres] Edition) VOTING & DISCUSSION THREAD. ALL ILXORS WELCOME TO PARTICPATE!! Voting Ends 11.59pm UK Time September 9 2016 .

This is exciting. Thanks guys.

Isnt shoegaze metal like Deafheaven relatively new?

haha only if it sold lots! Which it hasn't.

I imagine Five Finger Death Punch,soulfly and Devildriver sell way more though I doubt they sell a million copies either but that's where mainstream metal is these days (shite and noone likes it compared to previous decades)

xxpost to tom

Just saying, I've never seen Darkthrone in a Best Buy display rack.

Crossing over in metal is relative, I guess?

I see a Hellacopters album on the list! Good band i havent heard them in ages

shoegaze metal or blackgaze I suppose is new thanks to Alcest but it's still kinda an offshoot of post black metal, which obviously is an offshoot of black metal and post metal.

metal bands discovering my bloody valentine 20 years after the rest of us basically. But taking it shoegaze somewhere new I guess until they then just started making actual shoegaze without the metal

If anyones wanting a tip for albums to check out i suggest

Agalloch - Ashes Against The Grain
Warning - Watching From a Distance
Aluk Todolo - Occult Rock
Weakling - Dead as Dreams
Isis - Oceanic/Panopticon (the latter is shoegazier for those into that)
Absu - Tara

for 'poppier' stuff

Torche
Ghost
Uncle Acid
Alcest

Rate Your Music has a best albums 2000-2010 list here
http://tinyurl.com/RYM-Best-Metal-Albums-2000-10

and 2000-16 so just ignore the 2016 albums

http://tinyurl.com/RYM-Best-Metal-Albums-2000-16

They should at least prove a guide for what to listen to but dig deep too if you can.

If you are a fan of Black Metal style vocals and harsh guitar sound but enjoy more mid-tempo or even slow riffs and such, and are also a big depressed saddo, you might enjoy the sub-genre of Suicidal Depressive Black Metal. Its a great "blackened" compliment to funeral doom (in fact there are a few bands that are being described as "Funeral Black Metal" but that's primarily last.fm tags).

My favorite SDBM bands are:
Nocturnal Depression
Forgotten Tomb
Lifelover
I Shalt Become

This sort of thing has really only become popular in the last 10 years or more recent. There's some crossover with it and the larger sub-genre of atmospheric black metal but with a major focus on themes of suicide, depression, human extinction, antinatalism, etc. I have found it to be quite cathartic at certain times!

Anyway, that's my big sub-genre plug.

haha not one for the pop fans! Except the xasthur albums he made with the folk stuff on it

Remember to keep checking pastebin before voting. The nominations requested earlier will be added by seandalai. I have no access to pastebin

Pop fans obv. should be reevaluating Andrew W.K., who I feel is chronically underrated and disrespected.

well, people should remember it's not just a metal poll , it's heavy rock too.

I've only ever heard a few songs by andrew wk that I like. What is his best album?

as for AWK here's my rundown: Mother of Mankind > The Wolf > Close Calls With Brick Walls > I Get Wet > his other things (soundtracks, piano stuff, etc.)

His best power ballads are on The Wolf, imo. Close Calls + MoMK was released as a double album at one point so if nothing else I'd say check that out it has a great mix of stuff. If you can get past the realization that his melodies and lyrics have the depth of nursery rhymes he's really really fun.

I suppose his advice article in the Village Voice is actually the best thing he's produced, but that's not music.

A couple more duplicates in the list:
The Lord Weird Slough Feg - Down Among the Deadmen
Dark Space III

Wrong album title:
Grand Supreme Blood Court - Bow Down Before The Blood Court

Hoping that my policy of not nominating anything works out

well that was a silly policy

I don't even remember metal

you never metal her

Just realised no Deftones albums were nominated, was hoping to vote for them as my token nu-metal act.

Well if you follow the Artist - Album format I can add it to google docs and seandalai will add it to the pastebin noms. But only request these things if you actually do at least consider voting for it.

I dont think seandalai has updated pastebin from yesterday so it shouldnt be a problem.

Cool, thanks:

Deftones - White Pony
Deftones - Diamond Eyes
Deftones - Koi no yokan

Pretty sure all three of these will make my ballot.

Ok, I dont know when seandalai will get round to adding them as he's a busy chap.

I managed to cut down my draft longlist from 150 to 100. Sorted out my provisional top 10. That was really really tough. I wish I had asked seandalai to make the top 15 get extra points not just the top 10.

Is that possible seandalai?

Limp Bizkit looked promising as the flag for nu-metal voters to rally around.

If the top 15 or top 20 had extra weight then that would make it easier then everyone could then just fill upto 100 or whatever number they can manage and have that part unweighted so they get the same amount of points but those who love to rank 1-100 can do so too.

I hope everyone iwll try make the largest ballot they can. The two months voting period means noone has to rush in ballots and can use the time to listen or relisten to albums.

Which they can add on the playlist for everyone to check out
https://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy
spotify:user:pfunkboy:playlist:4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy

Siegbran, Frobisher and dj martian will have trouble cutting down to a top 100 I'm sure!

Hate to spoil the fun, but this is from 1995:
Petrucci, John- Rock Discipline (DVD)

it should not have been in it anyway. there's always one stupid cunt who has to troll, lol

Anybody have any albums they wish to recommend to those reading the thread?

that noisy one

serious answers please

I want to put a word in for that Plebeian Grandstand album I nominated - sort of discordant black metal/metalcore crossover (someone on RYM called them 'Deathscreamo Omega'). Really great.

Are EPs eligible as well? Or only full lengths?

That was one for the nominations thread. I dont actually remember what was decided.

I nominated an EP and intend to vote for it.

new board description

Unlike the all-time poll, which everyone knew who would win (but not which album), I dont see any actual certain winner standing out.
There's about at least 20 classics could win but none have sold so much that it makes them overwhelming favourites.

I think the past 15 years has been a great time for metal and heavy rock has been making a comeback to as people get fed up with extremity for extremities sake.

How is everyone deciding their tops tens? Most listened to albums? Or do you need to cut that shortlist down by ways such as 'game-changers'?

And how about the rest of the top 100 or whatever you choose to do?

Contenderizer and imago you always have convoluted ways of making ballots , how are you approaching this?

I'm just going to go through the nominations list and put the ones I've heard in order

Not going to use the time to re-listen or listen to albums you haven't heard?

The scope here is huge...danger of being too disparate for a consensus?

Might not be a bad thing?

ILM has a weird thing of wanting weird results unlike everywhere else who that has people who complains that *insert album here* isnt at #1 or whatever.

I slogged through the As and only saw 14 albums I'd heard (and most of those were by Amon Amarth) so I'm gonna chalk this up to "ILM's version of metal is not metal as I understand it" once again and walk away.

In before Cosmic Slop yells "IT'S NOT JUST A METAL POLL" again

yeah, a poll too disparate to achieve consensus is the best kind of poll. Nothing to reach against, no canon to alter -- just a list of the actual favorite albums by the people voting, where everyone is likely to be surprised and learn about new stuff

there's a thread in there somewhere

a playlist at the very least

i prefer riding the tiger metal

riding a horse through space

since we're not getting the rollout started tonight how about you all try and guess the top 10?

Lets see who is closest.

dont be scared of embarrassing yourself by being wrong!

http://i.imgur.com/sTkCQPt.jpg

riding a scylla through a tsunami is a totally different thing

the laser whip is the meeting point of the venn diagram

ok fair

you guys up for some metal in https://plug.dj/ilxors/ ?

you obviously don't want that now

ciderpress is in

bedtime alas, need to wake at 7 tomorrow

excited for the roll-out though! top 101? 200 last time out was a little ott maybe

I dont do piffling 100's

Ideally it would start at 666

If Turisas dont win the poll btw blame their biggest fan for not voting

for imago
http://i.imgur.com/OpzyAHo.png

i'm up for metal on plug!

Decibel’s Top 100 Albums of the Decade

1 - Converge - Jane Doe

Cave In – Jupiter (Hydra Head 2000)
Opeth – Blackwater Park (Koch 2001)
Isis – Oceanic (Ipecac 2002)
Mastodon – Remission (Relapse 2002)
Katatonia – Last Fair Deal Gone Down (Peaceville 2001)
Queens Of The Stone Age – Songs For The Deaf (Interscope 2002)
Iron Maiden – Brave New World (Columbia 2000)
Pig Destroyer – Phantom Limb (Relapse 2007)
Electric Wizard – Dopethrone (Rise Above 2000)
Torche – Meanderthal (Hydra Head 2008)
Discordance Axis – The Inalienable Dreamless (Hydra Head 2000)
Baroness – Blue Record (Relapse 2009)
Napalm Death – Enemy Of The Music Business (Dream Catcher 2000)
Pelican – The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw (Hydra Head 2005)
The Red Chord – Clients (Metal Blade 2005)
Converge – Axe To Fall (Epitaph 2009)
Neurosis – A Sun That Never Sets (Relapse 2001)
Melt-Banana – Cell Scape (A-Zap 2003)
Agalloch – Ashes Against The Grain (The End 2006)
Enslaved – Isa (Candlelight 2004)
Tragedy – Tragedy (Tragedy 2000)
Fugazi – The Argument (Dischord 2001)
Mare – Mare EP (Hydra Head 2004)
Celtic Frost – Monotheist (Century Media 2006)
Jesu – Silver EP (Hydra Head 2006)
High On Fire – Surrounded By Thieves (Relapse 2002)
Dimmu Borgir – Death Cult Armageddon (Nuclear Blast 2003)
The Dillinger Escape Plan – Miss Machine (Relapse 2004)
Andrew W.K. – I Get Wet (Island 2001)
Mastodon – Leviathan (Relapse 2004)
Craft – Fuck The Universe (Carnal 2005)
Isis – Panopticon (Ipecac 2004)
Anaal Nathrakh – The Codex Necro (Mordgrimm 2001)
Shellac – 1000 Hurts (Touch & Go 2000)
Witchcraft – Witchcraft (Rise Above / Music Cartel 2004)
Killswitch Engage – Alive Or Just Breathing (Roadrunner 2001)
Pig Destroyer – Prowler In The Yard (Relapse 2001)
Converge – You Fail Me (Epitaph 2004)
Deathspell Omega – Fas – Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeternum (Ajna 2007)
Primordial – The Gathering Wilderness (Metal Blade 2005)
Opeth – Ghost Reveries (Roadrunner 2005)
Nile – Annihilation Of The Wicked (Relapse 2005)
Watain – Sworn To The Dark (Ajna 2007)
Between The Buried And Me – Alaska (Victory 2005)
Evoken – Quietus (Avantgarde 2001)
Electric Wizard – Witchcult Today (Rise Above 2007)
Mastodon – Blood Mountain (Reprise 2006)
Arsis – A Celebration Of Guilt (Willowtip 2004)
The Dillinger Escape Plan – Ire Works (Relapse 2007)
Ludicra – Fex Urbis, Lex Orbis (Alternative Tentacles 2006)
At The Drive-In – Relationship Of Command (Grand Royal / Virgin 2000)
Isis – Celestial (Escape Artist 2000)
Jesu – Jesu (Hydra Head 2004)
Enslaved – Below The Lights (The End 2003)
Cult Of Luna – Somewhere Along The Highway (Earache 2006)
High On Fire – Death Is This Communion (Relapse 2007)
Disfear – Live The Storm (Relapse 2008)
Dying Fetus – Destroy The Opposition (Relapse 2000)
Napalm Death – Time Waits For No Slave (Century Media 2009)
Deftones – White Pony (Maverick 2000)
Botch – An Anthology Of Dead Ends EP (Hydra Head 2002)
Converge – No Heroes (Epitaph 2006)
Hatebreed – Perseverance (Universal 2002)
Withered – Memento Mori (Lifeforce 2005)
Leviathan – Tentacles Of Whorror (Moribund 2004)
Meshuggah – Catch 33 (Nuclear Blast 2005)
Thorns – Thorns (Moonfog 2001)
Rotten Sound – Murderworks (Death Vomit 2002)
Trap Them – Seizures In Barren Praise (Deathwish 2008)
Deathevokation – The Chalice Of Ages (Xtreem Music 2007)
Nachtmystium – Assassins: Black Meddle, Part I (Century Media 2008)
Immortal – Sons Of Northern Darkness (Nuclear Blast 2002)
Nasum – Human 2.0 (Relapse 2000)
Fucked Up – Hidden World (Jade Tree 2006)
Neurosis – Given To The Rising (Neurot 2007)
Taint – The Ruin Of Nova Roma (Rise Above 2005)
System Of A Down – Toxicity (American 2001)
Akercocke – Words That Go Unspoken, Deeds That Go Undone (Earache 2005)
Warhorse – As Heaven Turns To Ash (Southern Lord 2001)
Mayhem – Chimera (Season Of Mist 2004)
Gojira – From Mars To Sirius (Listenable 2005)
Drowningman – How They Light Cigarettes In Prison EP (Revelation 2000)
Pig Destroyer – Terrifyer (Relapse 2004)
Watain – Casus Luciferi (Drakkar 2003)
Killswitch Engage – The End Of Heartache (Roadrunner 2004)
Psyopus – Ideas Of Reference (Black Market Activities 2004)
The Haunted – The Haunted Made Me Do It (Earache 2000)
Cryptopsy – …And Then You’ll Beg (Century Media 2000)
Asunder – Works Will Come Undone (Profound Lore 2006)
Godflesh – Hymns (Koch 2001)
Cathedral – Endtyme (Earache 2001)
The Paper Chase – Now You Are One Of Us (Kill Rock Stars 2006)
Decapitated – Nihility (Earache 2002)
Coalesce – Ox (Relapse 2009)
In Flames – Clayman (Nuclear Blast 2000)
Battle Of Mice – A Day Of Nights (Neurot 2006)
Cobalt – Gin (Profound Lore 2009)
My Dying Bride – The Dreadful Hours (Peaceville 2001)
Slayer – World Painted Blood (American 2009)

How many of those will make our top 100?

i predict that all of them will

They're all tied for 2

#2

Ohhh I forgot to vote for Cell Scape!!!

you aren't changing your ballot now Mr two months study time for voting!

Let the record show that I never once asked if we could have an extended nominations/voting period for this poll

And I've never once asked for a two-month voting period for any poll.

defense, your witness

ok the rollout will be starting sometime tonight! seandalai is sending me the results tonight!

http://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=104546#unread

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