Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

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aging population, also old is in right now

6 god none the richer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2016 04:41 (seven years ago) link

When the CW consensus 'next Obama' is Marco Rubio, then it makes good sense to look at 'oldster Obama' instead.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 22 July 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

David Brooks just said "next week Hillary Clinton is going to drive a truck through this"

Too soon.

schwantz, Friday, 22 July 2016 05:44 (seven years ago) link

there's no such thing as bad taste at the end of the world

Treeship, Friday, 22 July 2016 05:45 (seven years ago) link

did no one involved think to have g.e. smith play the SNL closing theme over trump's speech?

it's like nobody has any imagination anymore

it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Friday, 22 July 2016 06:01 (seven years ago) link

the music has been like twilight zone shit

Treeship, Friday, 22 July 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link

watching the ivanka into now. i wonder if she/anyone actually believes that trump would be a competent president

Treeship, Friday, 22 July 2016 06:08 (seven years ago) link

Give her a break--She used to live in his nuts!

Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 July 2016 06:22 (seven years ago) link

it's more a general point. like, ppl cheering for him or voting for him... they know this is a joke, right?

Treeship, Friday, 22 July 2016 06:29 (seven years ago) link

i understand voting for him as an expression of disdain for "the establishment" or as a kind of profane gesture but i don't understand thinking he will improve anything

Treeship, Friday, 22 July 2016 06:36 (seven years ago) link

"thinking"

Twilight Sparkle from My Little Pony said (contenderizer), Friday, 22 July 2016 08:26 (seven years ago) link

Why are both the candidates this year over a million years old?

Scooping up a billion dollars takes time.

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-threatens-the-ghostwriter-of-the-art-of-the-deal

In which our thin-skinned hero, Donald Trump, takes time out of the middle of the RNC convention to have his lawyers threaten the trash-talking ghostwriter of his book.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link

@ByronTau
Final tally of RNC arrests: 24, per the police.

For context:
St. Paul in 2008 saw 700+ arrests
NYC in 2004 saw 1,800+

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link

that's a good thing

based stress reduction (crüt), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

he thanked the police last night!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

proof Bloomberg was a great fascist

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link

the best!

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

the kind liberals cheerfully voted for -- some 3x

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

but I thought things were worse than they've ever been???

frogbs, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

per capita

1 arrest per 4750 NYCers

1 arrest per 4303 Minneapolitan/St. Paulites

1 arrest per 16534 Clevelanders

El Tomboto, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

yes, all things, my god yr intellec powers astound me frogbs you just keep winning

xp

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link

glad the clown show stayed inside the arena.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link

if anyone has an hour to kill, go rewatch W's acceptance speech in 2000. compare to any portion of what we got last night.

frogbs, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

morbs pretty sure frogs was referencing the apocalyptic tone from trump's speech there. geez

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

Remember when we all thought W was so bad; simpler times

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

And after Donald Trump’s somewhat more polished performance Thursday night, even Democrats who had been pushing for a flashier choice like Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren or New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker were sobered by the challenging four months ahead. “After last night, she needs to make the safest choice possible,” said a former senior White House aide.

good Christ

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-vp-pick-tim-kaine-226013#ixzz4F9Ahnigg

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

yeah, carne, i got it. no harm no foul

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

Remember when we all thought W was so bad; simpler times

now that dems are voting for his policies again the cognitive dissonance must be terrifying

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link

Kaine sucks but I'm relieved it isn't Vilsack

based stress reduction (crüt), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link

I'll be surprised if Chuck Todd turns out to be right

El Tomboto, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

now that dems are voting for his policies again the cognitive dissonance must be terrifying

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, July 22, 2016 10:20 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this is... untrue

lag∞n, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link

i guess if Trump had been "unpolished" it mighta been Franken!

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

but this is encouraging - Richmond Times-Dispatch, reposted by Reason (http://www.richmond.com/opinion/our-opinion/bart-hinkle/article_16adc43f-8fca-5ca5-b727-4c8dcadbd273.html)

But the public should not be seduced by efforts to put Kaine in the center of the political spectrum when he is so far from it. Think of it this way: Suppose Kaine had a mirror image in the GOP—a Republican former head of the RNC who repeatedly tried to cut taxes, who sought to restrict abortion, who got high marks from the NRA and low marks from environmentalists, who wanted to cut social programs, who supported privatizing Social Security, and who was, in all visible respects, a down-the-line soldier for the political right.

Would the press term such a politician—no matter how genial and friendly—a "cautious centrist" and a "pragmatist"? Or would he be labeled an "arch-conservative" and an "ideologue"?

Exactly.

El Tomboto, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

i'm voting for clinton because i want harriet miers on the supreme court!

big rave warrior (rushomancy), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

Remember when we all thought W was so bad; simpler times

Indeed, I remember when we thought his father was bad.

Scott Baiowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

i still think theyre bad :)

lag∞n, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

mp’s somewhat more polished performance Thursday night, even Democrats who had been pushing for a flashier choice like Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren or New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker were sobered by the challenging four months ahead. “After last night, she needs to make the safest choice possible,” said a former senior White House aide.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-vp-pick-tim-kaine-226013#ixzz4F9ISD2m0
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Treeship, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

Richard M. Nixon ‏@dick_nixon 4h4 hours ago
'68 brought people in. Trump locked the door and threw away the key. If you can't see the difference, the hell with you.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 July 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

Trump's speech was sort of not the worst -- ok -- but it was in the midst of a circuslike convention

Treeship, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Trump's speech was the worst because his was the only one promised to show the potential to pivot in time for the general. It didn't, he didn't, he can't.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

only trump brand stats will give you the luxury info you crave

lag∞n, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

here's a thread

http://ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=40

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Friday, 22 July 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link

oh fuck lol

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Friday, 22 July 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link


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