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I understand. I don't sit around and listen to solo oud all day myself.

One final thing thoug: here are Ali Jihad Racy's comments on these three oudists in "The Many Faces of Improvisation: The Arab Taqasim as a Musical Symbol" (for which I did not write down a source):

Among 'ud players, there are numerous distinctive profiles. For example, the late Farid al-Atrash of Egypt often prefaced his live vocal performances with his own taqasim on the 'ud. Displaying a popular style of 'ud playing seemingly intended to please large live audiences and fans, his renditions stand out for their relatively fast pacing and dense picking, and for making frequent use of the more familiar maqamat. Also striking is the prevalence of cliche qaflat and 'expected surprises,' for example habitaully ending his ud taqasim with a passage in maqam Kurd and gradually introducing a pedal-toen and a melodic configuration outlining the piece 'Asturias' by the Spanish composer Albeniz. Al-Atrash's taqasim are copied widely, at times note for note by amateur ud players, whose imitations often drraw criticism for lacking originality, in other words for being banal and highly predictable.

In contrast, the late Riyad al-Sunbati of Egypt, considered one of the greatest composers and proponents of the Arab modal tradition, has recorded somewhat circumspect taqasim that flow along the organic structures of the mode but evoke intense ecstatic sensations. Particularly cherished by other musicians and musical aficianados, al-Sunbati's style is marked by precise intonation, careful pacing, distinct interest in rsonance, careful utilization of pauses, economy and subtlety in the use of the plectrum, and full exploration of the primary mode before a modulation is introduced. His renditions achieve a unique balance between feeling and technical excellence.

Meanwhile, the late Iraqi 'ud player Munir Bashir, whose style is influenced by the artistry of his Turkish trained teacher Sharif Muhyi al-Din Haydar, presents a highly lyrical style which unlike the traditional mainstream of Arab 'ud playing appears seamless, thus avoiding clear cut qaflat and phrase delineations. Many of his (typically long) performances stay in the same maqam and maintain a subdued, meditative mood quite consistently. Listeners sometimes pseak of non-Arab inluences on his style, including North Indian ragas and jazz. Having performed in various major cities in Asia, Europe, and North America, Bashir has created improvisatory works that are intended to evoke specific impressions, for example those of ancient Babylon. Deriving significantly from the Iraqi modal tradition, Bashir's style is also highly ambient. Employing subtle but effective dynamic inflections and a gradual build up in the intensity of picking, his playing is known to demand quiet concentration on the part of the listeners.

He really slams Farid there, maybe too much. I think he had a pretty distinctive sound as an oud player.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link

One more final thing for now:

A page of files of Farid songs. Check out "3enaya mahma aloo 3annak" (or at least the beginning) as an example. He performs a solo not very long into the song. Great rhythms in the song itself, too.

And one for Asmahan, his enchanting, mysterious, and ill-fated sister (who is another member of the Arabic music pantheon), just in case you are curious. The first song there is probably as good an entry point as any.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

great!
this thread is turning into a decent intro to arabic music.
interesting comments above too.

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
THE fourth of the Avanti Friday Night Jazz Series on March 4 showcased Farid Ali & Friends, who gave an enticing performance.

A guitarist, Farid fuses modern jazz with the traditional gambus (Malay lute). His electric gambus was crafted by luthier Jeffrey Yong of GIM Custom Guitar, and bears his name on its chest.

“The gambus was invented some 3000 years ago. It only arrived in Malaysia in the 13th and 14th centuries,” said Farid. “Some scholars even claimed that it was invented by the sixth grandson of Adam.”


Farid & Friends making great music with different instruments.
The gambus is made of wood (hence the name oud). But unlike the guitar, it has 12 strings and no frets-ridges on the fingerboard.
--http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.asp?file=/2005/3/13/features/10351458&sec=features

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 3 April 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Oud maker with a very impressive pedigree and list of clients:

http://www.mauriceouds.com/english/about.asp

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
This is kind of weird, but the music is good (Farid taksim):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahOVh1VVD3w&search=farid%20atrash

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 9 April 2006 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link

rhymes with nudists?

smokemon (eman), Sunday, 9 April 2006 04:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Roughly. (I think the vowel actually has two distinct parts when pronounced correctly, sort of ah-ood.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 9 April 2006 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
http://gulf.salmiya.net/songs/abadee/

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 10 June 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/Large/37/946937.jpg

I don't hear enough oud recordings to make sweeping judgments, but I still think this is an instant classic.

It's a really long, extremely well-recorded CD, and it feels like a big space to explore. I wish I could listen to it on a good stereo, because part of the enjoyment is in all of the subtle timbral aspects of the performance, including sometimes seemingly incidental sounds. The recording is dominated by oud improvisation (sometimes completely solo, sometimes with spare percussion accompaniment), but also includes instrumental, oud and percussion, renderings of well-known (enough so that I recognized most of them) folkloric songs.

The live Iraqi Music in a Time of War was excellent, but on repeated listens I find that I want to skip past the introductory comments. Also, the compositions he plays tend to be dances played on the oud, never my favorite style of oud playing (though he does it exceptionally well). It's a remarkable historical document when one considers it was recorded in New York city as the US invasion of Iraq was beginning, but this new studio recording is more completely satisfying.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 2 November 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Some of this is draw-droppingly good. I know I'm not saying anything very specific here, but I'm hoping my general pickiness about oud playing to have some weight when I say this is excellent.

R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 6 November 2006 01:59 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
http://www.enjarecords.com/images/enj9504.jpg

The first two discs of this box set, Al Tarab: Muscat Ud Festival, are exquisite. Unfortunately, the pieces for oud and orchestra together, which make up about half of the third disc and all of the fourth disc, aren't so exquisite.

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 10 February 2007 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

As on the AlHaj CD, the oud recordings (aside from the orchestral ones) tend to alternate between improvisatory taksim, and pre-composed pieces.

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 10 February 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Farid, with an overly rowdy audience, but this is some nice extended playing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NVl7SoXdF8&mode=related&search=

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Not extended technique, you know, but an extend passage. And as I always say, he does tend to play the same thing over and over, but it's better than saying the same thing over and over (from solo to solo), and he does it so well it kind of doesn't matter.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Another satisfied audience.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Simon Shaheen/Ali Jihad Racy: Taqasim

wow, I have this! I like it. I also have a record by some Adel Salameh guy, called "Le Maitre d'Oud", so he must be very good.

At this stage I do not know enough about this style of music to be able to recognise good or bad playing of it.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

he does tend to play the same thing over and over, but it's better than saying the same thing over and over (from solo to solo)

I have no idea what this meant.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Rahim AlHaj has a new CD out, and it sounds pretty fantastic, judging by these clips:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/rahimalhaj5

Sorry to sound all street team about it, but I am just trying to point it out, and as I haven't even heard the whole thing myself, what am I going to say? Still, based on these clips, I'm completely confident this is an excellent recording.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 17 November 2007 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Extremists in Iraq literally destroying ouds

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/world/middleeast/01oud.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th

Erica Goode, NY Times article
excerpt:
BAGHDAD — Dhia Jabbar hides his oud in a sack when he walks down the street in his Baghdad neighborhood.

An oud maker in his workshop in central Baghdad. Residents rarely play the oud in public now for fear of angering militants critical of secular music.

Dhia Jabbar, in Baghdad, was threatened by militiamen who destroyed another oud.
He used to teach students in the back room of a photo shop, where the sound could not be heard. But last week, militia gunmen invaded the store, destroying one of his instruments and ordering him to stop teaching. He had dreamed of a performing career, but now he has lost hope.

“Iraq is dead,” he says.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 1 May 2008 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

That is such a fucked up story. Total bummer.

ian, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Riad el Sounbati solo oud recordings back in print (and I will get this as soon as reasonably possible--maybe before reasonably possible, because man cannot live by bread alone):

http://www.buyarabic.com/storeItem.asp?ic=MUAR002427

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, new reissues (I assume they are reissues) of Ahmad El Hefnawi, Oum Kalthoum's brilliant primary violinist. I haven't confirmed yet whether these are solo recordings by him, or what, but if they are, that's another essential purchase.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently the answer is yes. I don't think I've ever seen solo Ahmad El Hefnawi available on CD, not since I've known who he was anyway.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Saturday, 30 August 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

February 23

Oud Knights with Amina and Shayma: When Oud Speaks (female oud
players from Bahrain) for free from 6 to 7 (and webcast and archived)
at the Kennedy Center Millennium Stage in Washington DC

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:28 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Férid Latrache

Oh good, another spelling to keep track of.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Very very brief oud solo in this Mohammed Abdo song (around 4:30?), but this is the kind of oud playing that khaleeji music is full of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlFy9-aNn3k

Sometimes it runs through entire songs, a more rhythmic, even percussive, oud sound.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 21 August 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

So I think there must be a lot of great oudists in the Gulf states whose names I do not know.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 21 August 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Don't know who this is, but they sound great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQrTiXg7no

(I'm a bit baffled about country even, but I'm thinking North Africa or somewhere in the Gulf. Maybe Yemen.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 24 October 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link

And the associated videos seem to be from Yemen, and here's another lightning-fast oudist from Yemen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU3Yue-dr-8&feature=related

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 24 October 2009 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Very cool looking electric oud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai7f6zNzCfw

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 24 October 2009 07:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow, I've never seen one of those

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 October 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Washington Post's freelance reviewer M*rk J3nkins on Simon Shaheen live with photos

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/05/in_concert_simon_shaheen_at_th.html

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 May 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

The latest issue of Signal to Noise has an extensive interview with Rahim Alhaj, who I see R.S. has mentioned a few times both upthread and elsewhere across ILM. I should have paid attention to your posts earlier, sir! The article (which was quite good) inspired me to seek out his music via iTunes/Amazon thanks to some leftover birthday gift credit and now I've got six of his eight American albums so far, all quite excellent though the solo performances are definitely the best to my ears. I'm very interested to sit down properly with his Little Earth collaborative project, the range of performers alone is striking.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 March 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey, don't be giving me an excuse to by Signal to Noise. I'm glad you are enjoying Rahim's music. Despite approach the third anniversary of my relocation to New Mexico, I have yet to see him perform live. I expect that will happen sooner or later.

Oddly, I think I first found out of him by way of a Christgau review (possibly posted or linked to on ILM).

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 March 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

When I talked with him (Rahim, not Christgau) in person once, he seemed pretty bored with the Smithsonian recording I was heaping praise on earlier. He's much more interested in doing something that is somehow new. Still, I don't hear anything else he's done as all that experimental. I'm not sure what to make of that. Possibly he has trouble breaking out of the classical tradition in which is so highly trained; but on the other hand, lacking music theory, I may simply not hear what's going on that is different in some of other recordings.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 March 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

There's actually quite a bit of discussion of theory and scale in the Signal to Noise piece I mentioned, and from the sound of it he found it an interesting challenge (probably for the very reasons you mentioned) with the Little Earth performers to see where such training and those of his collaborators didn't easily mesh.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 March 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

A generous selection of solo Riad El Sonbaty music available on Spotify, which is just what the doctor ordered for today. Maybe if I had listened to this first I would not have gone off at my Democratic partisan hack older brother.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

Moron.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

I should listen to him and to Rahim Alhaj tonight. Don't know oud music well but like various players I have heard over the years

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

The Muscat Oud Festival recordings are available on Spotify. Overall, this is an incredible collection. I don't have much to say at the moment since it's been a while since I've listened to it (more to do with my current audio set up than a lack of interest), but I talked it up when it first came out.

http://open.spotify.com/album/4U0TybPA9EZjWv0qm3hCn8

Here's what I posted earlier on this thread, which is how I remember this set:

The first two discs of this box set, Al Tarab: Muscat Ud Festival, are exquisite. Unfortunately, the pieces for oud and orchestra together, which make up about half of the third disc and all of the fourth disc, aren't so exquisite.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 9 February 2014 05:19 (ten years ago) link

Here's sund4r on an Ahmed Fathi track from this compilation, one which famously placed in a low turnout ILM EOY track poll:

I love "La Tisafir" and it probably is my favourite single track of the year but I don't feel like I know enough about oud music that I'm totally comfortable commenting on it. What knocks me out is the oud-only section beginning around 1:35 which alternates rapid strumming of thick chords with melodic commentary, building in intensity. It reminds me of things I love in some South American classical guitar music as well as in some rock music. This is where I start to feel like a dope but the sonority he hits around 2:10 reminds me of early Sonic Youth and post-Branca no wave in a way, just with more going on in the rhythm and intricate melodies. And then he goes back to the memorable main vocal tune (I want to describe the delivery as 'soulful,' heaven help me, and I feel like a dope again) and gorgeous elaborate rippling melodic commentary.

(Why would it be good if the poll had so many more participants that a track like this would get forgotten?)

― sund4r, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 9:12 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just read that and it seems unsatisfyingly clinical. The track feels yearning, intense, and beautifully intricate.

― sund4r, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 9:14 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

***Put Ya Hands Up for the 2006 ILX TRACKS POLL RESULTS***

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 9 February 2014 05:45 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

The Simon Shaheen interview from 2003 is still available (on Web Archive) and still a fascinating read - http://web.archive.org/web/20030818015403/http://www.afropop.org/multi/interview/ID/39/Simon%20Shaheen%20on%20the%20oud

My first oudist was Waed Bouhassoun from Syria, from hearing her live concert for Radio France Musique from September 2015 - http://www.francemusique.fr/player/resource/106453-118451 - the concert starts @ 3:00 mins and is available online until Jun 2018

Not sure how Bouhassoun compares to anyone else, but it's a really hypnotic sound, just oud and voice. (More info on the program page.)

sbahnhof, Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:01 (eight years ago) link

*Shaheen

sbahnhof, Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:05 (eight years ago) link

A fair amount of oud in this great movie doc:

http://theconversation.com/on-the-banks-of-the-tigris-a-documentary-that-traces-the-forgotten-history-of-iraqi-music-47260

curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 March 2016 14:22 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Mohamed el-Qasabgi (I assume):

https://youtu.be/E54u766R3fA?t=8m11s

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 25 February 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

Love that oud sound even though I don't know much about it.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 26 February 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Reposting without the link errors this time:

Simon Shaheen on the oud (2003) good interview
- http://web.archive.org/web/20101228042512/http://www.afropop.org/multi/interview/ID/39/Simon+Shaheen+on+t

Waed Bouhassoun – Heritage Days: Concert of Traditional Music / Tribute to Syrian Cultural Heritage
- https://www.francemusique.fr/emissions/programme-special/journees-du-patrimoine-concert-de-musiques-traditionnelles-hommage-au-patrimoine-culturel-syrien-12932

^ This French radio concert is still online (Music starts @ 3:00 mins in the show). From the blurb:
"Waed Bouhassoun (voice & oud), with her poetic, intense and personal presence while remaining closer to the spirit of her country's music, we will share this program that she titled 'The soul of the lute'."

sbahnhof, Sunday, 3 February 2019 07:48 (five years ago) link

And random clips

Simon Shaheen & Rima Khcheich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9WHeKntZq4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-wS9e1KFhY

Bouhassoun was interviewed (with flutist Naïssam Jalal) about how Syrian musicians have coped with the destruction in their country:

- https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.franceculture.fr%2Femissions%2Flactualite-musicale%2Fsyrie-que-faire-quand-est-musicien / (Original in French)

sbahnhof, Sunday, 3 February 2019 07:50 (five years ago) link


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