RIP George Harrison

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Yeah - it's funny the way almost everyone is only talking about the songs he wrote and not those he played on. Rockists!

Nick, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No, he wasn't my favorite beatle... but he was definitely my favorite beatle guitar player. All that stuff on "And Your Bird Can Sing"... the cool solo on "Nowhere Man"... he was a tasty, understated and sometimes brilliant guitar player, and for all of his sitar jangling, I think he would be happy to be remembered as just a really good guitar player. Plus, I bet there's probably at least 4 or 5 major gods who are just lining up to invite him into their heavenly kingdoms.

andy, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Bloke behind the counter in my local CD library is wearing a black armband, bless him.

stevo, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Long, Long, Long" - yes, I love that as well. His best work. I always try to like "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" but the song structure is just too proto-AOR (as MacDonald noted). "Something" and even "Here Comes The Sun" never lose their charm for me either.

Of course all his later work was dire AOR, but curiously I find his view of the world more appealing now than I ever did in life. Whether this is just not-wanting-to-speak-ill business I don't know, but it does have some resonance. I like "My Sweet Lord" as well.

"the only world I know" - Nick, I take this to be a world of social mobility and flexibility not hidebound by traditional class boundaries. And it *was* the 60s generation that founded that world, and the Beatles were the band most definitive of that time, so I really can't argue with that.

Robin Carmody, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

when i was a young lad, I always liked that demo on anthology 1, "you know what to do"...direct and pretty... also his monologues on the bbc tapes. sigh...

dave k, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sometimes, some people just don't like George Harrison's music. I think that's a fair criticism, whether it's While My Guitar Gently Weeps (which is terribly overrated - I think it's a dirge, and it makes me want to weep, very hard) or Got My Mind Set On You. I like What Is Life. That's about it for Harrison. I don't think it's unfair to just not like someone's songwriting style, I won't suddenly like him because he's dead, you know. I'm sorry he died the way he did, it's quite terrible.

Ally, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dignity through inactivity! Cloud Nine notwithstanding, he could be the '60s legend-type that did the least harm to his rep in the past quarter-century by just doing little (musically at least; his filmwork was top drawer -- time bandits!).

WMGGW with forceful, "serious" Slowhand solo is a blight. Isn't It a Pity is an overlooked gem and Long x3 is the pick of the Beatles litter.

scott p., Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

you know, we get bombarded by the media all the time with bullshit, like 'something' is the greatest love song, so sez sinatra, etc, so no one's mentioned this song, but the fact remains, press or no press (and sometimes i prefer the latter), it is a great great song, beautiful and awesome in its structure and melody, good on ya george, you'll never be forgotten for that, not to mention 'within you without you', cool that you saw the value in eastern music, paved the way for talvin singh et al, at least the acceptance as such, remember, like george did, music is love.

karmik guy, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i scroll too fast... (re:somthing)

karmik guy, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm glad everyone's remembering Long Long Long as i always thought it was highly underrated. But did anyone think Taxman was a bit gripey "Oh God! Must I really help pay nurses?"

dog latin, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

So did I, Latin, but its value is that it cuts through all the simplistic "Beatles = Wilsonian" bullshit.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Underrated songwriter, frustrated guitar player, ageing curmudgeon whose only public pronouncements are occasional pot-shots at contemporary pop... my kind of fellow.

Great sadness and sympathy: the 'sadness' Mark S talks of is absolutely there, for me, and must ultimately be a profound part of what Harrison 'means'.

Nicky D's ('historical / generational') tears are moving too (and not just cos wept on a bus): the death of a Beatle is a loud, dark bell tolling for us all.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the death of a Beatle is a loud, dark bell tolling for us all

Death only happened with this? Astounding! Weird hallucinations I've been having saying otherwise, then.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

seven years pass...

Now some love for George.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link

some lovely understated songs. the instrumental "what is life" is one of my favourite! things! ever!
can't forgive him for Taxman though.

tomofthenest, Friday, 18 September 2009 09:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I want to do "Top ten George Beatles guitarness moments" but I've not got anything to hand to confirm who played what so I shant yet.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 10:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I know, someone could easily go "yeah, that solo on Taxman" for instance.

Mark G, Friday, 18 September 2009 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahaha, yes, BUT there are a couple of things I'm thinking of suggesting where I have doubt in my mind over whether it was Lennon or Macca instead.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link

What top ten can we do for Lennon? Songs? Vocals performances?

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Lyric?

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link

How about Vocal moments?

e.g. Backing vocal on "Getting Better" "but I can't complain"

Mark G, Friday, 18 September 2009 10:49 (fourteen years ago) link

My Top Ten Harrison Beatle Guitar Moments

1. Fixing a Hole solo
2. Backwards bits on I'm Only Sleeping
3. Let it Be solo
4. Multilayered parts on And Your Bird Can Sing
5. Riffs on Another Girl
6. Wonky wierd suff on Baby's in Black
7. Country solo on I'm a Loser
8. Call & response parts on She Loves You
9. Reverby solo on I Saw Her Standing There
10. Guitar swells on Yes it Is

Darin, Friday, 18 September 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

dark horse v underrated imo. it's kind of muddy and meandering, but I love that shit.

feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Friday, 18 September 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

4. Multilayered parts on And Your Bird Can Sing

I can narrow this down even further to the plucked/harmonic "ping" that ends the solo which is just so fucking awesome and makes me smile every time I hear it

Hat Trick Swayze (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 September 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh yeah! He does the same thing on his Nowhere Man solo.

Darin, Friday, 18 September 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

oh shit I think I am mixing those two up

Hat Trick Swayze (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 September 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it is def Nowhere Man I was thinking of

duh

carry on!

Hat Trick Swayze (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 September 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

11. His solo on "Got To Get You Into My Life"

vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 September 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

can't forgive him for Taxman though.

Fuck are you talking about? "Taxman" is awesome.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 18 September 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm starting to really love the early songs he sang, like 'Think for Yourself'...I love that he's kind of using his speaking voice in TfY, compared to later where he actually 'sings', like in Something, etc.

and I don't understand not loving Taxman. It's GREAT!

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

This links to the long, famous version of 'Think For Yourself', with lots of speaking.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

wee! thanks!

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

all things must pass is one of my faves

holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Friday, 18 September 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

that octaner blog is a little headspinning ... so many beatles bootlegs ... also reminded me that this existed
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lMRIjoHyp-4/SqcFMD5UWII/AAAAAAAADSw/VXQP4gc6nrA/s1600-h/capa.jpg
worst beatles cover art ever? lol, thumbs

tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link

gah!

tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

tyler your last few posts have been. . . all thumbs. . .

Mr. Que, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry haha ... just click on the link 4 a laff!

tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

gag! Ack! looks like it was painted by that 'boulevard of broken dreams' artist, the one with James Dean, Bogey and Marilyn all hanging at a sad-sack diner. yeesh.

VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

it is sort of crazy, what with the hushed reverence that these recent reissues have been given, packaging-wise. And then you see that ... who approved that?!

tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

was it Ringo

tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

can't forgive him for Taxman though.

Fuck are you talking about? "Taxman" is awesome.

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 18 September 2009 18:29 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

don't get me wrong, musically its awesome. but lyrically... it just comes across as nasty - I'm rolling in cash & I don't wanna pay taxes... wanker

tomofthenest, Friday, 18 September 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Fair point, actually. But in the UK, weren't they being taxed 80% of their earnings at the time(or some insane percentage like that), hence the trend of popstars becoming tax exiles?

Alex in NYC, Friday, 18 September 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

That point's almost worth its own thread. The US.'s top tax rate was 70% at one time!

vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 September 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

94%, actually, during the WWII years. But yeah, from 1936, it never went below 70% until Ronald Reagan was president. Since 1987, it's never been above 40%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States#History_of_top_rates.5B20.5D

Pancakes Batman (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 18 September 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

the point is, though, that's the top rate - you had to be earning a small fortune for it even to apply.

tomofthenest, Friday, 18 September 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I read that the top rate of uk tax in the 60s was at one point over 100%. That seems a bit unlikely, but I'm pretty sure it hit 99%. I'd be pretty unhappy with that too.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 September 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

George dissed Wilson AND Heath in Taxman.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 September 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

And "one for you, nineteen for me" = 95%, obviously

Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 September 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link


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