i think concerto for choir was one of mine! still haven't been able to wrap my head around the enormity of great work here. (don't have spotify either which complicates things.) may end up not balloting. :( (or may just end up re-arranging my noms as a ballot, but that doesn't seem to be quite fair!)
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link
damn this is soon, gonna have to drop out of all other life if i want to put a list together
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 03:10 (seven years ago) link
might just wait for the unveiling thread and loudly boo every appearance of arvo part
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 03:12 (seven years ago) link
I've been really bad at getting round to listening to most of this too... I will put together a ballot after I've done my metal/hard-rock one but the majority is going to be stuff I knew already and wait for the rollout to educate me.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
I don't think there's anything wrong with doing it that way. At least you're voting for things that you know have stuck with you.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 4 August 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
call me crazy, but De Staat is avant-prog, a la Art Zoyd (or Thinking Plague in places)
― Dominique, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
Finding connections between avant-prog and 70s compositional music is one of the least crazy things I can think of.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 6 August 2016 12:55 (seven years ago) link
I've knocked together a ballot but it looks kind of thin so I'm belatedly listening to some things with names that I find intriguing. Might mean that I miss out on something amazing with a plain title like 'Symphony No. 2' but I've left it too late to methodically go down the list really.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
if that's Per Norgard's #2, you should check it out if mystical minimalism is your thing
― Dominique, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
I'll give that a listen once I've finished making quizzical faces to Cornelius Cardew
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
I wasn't referring to anything in particular in my first post though
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link
Tbh, I doubt that anyone could have methodically gone down the whole list unless they treated it as at least a part-time job starting in April. (Or unless they already knew most of the pieces well, which I have no trouble admitting is not the case for me, although I've probably heard 50% of the pieces at least once.)
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link
Oh i missed the discussion of Schnittke's Concerto for Choir a few weeks back! My choir sang that last april, or, y'know, tried to. Boy that is difficult, but really beautiful! I'll definitely vote for that if I make a ballot, but most of my ballot would consist of stuff I've sung, i guess.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
Just listened to this. It's nice, you're right. Listening to the Schnittke Choir Concerto now.
If you listen to one guitar piece, it should probably be the Ginastera sonata. If you listen to a second, make it Villa-Lobos's Douze etudes, esp Etude no. 11 (my favourite thing to play). If you're going for a third, listen to Reginald Smith Brindle's El Polifemo de Oro.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 August 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link
that ginastera sonata is mad wicked
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Thursday, 25 August 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link
I'm on a ginastera kick lately tbh
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 25 August 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link
We're in the home stretch now!
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 1 September 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link
Ooh, I've totally forgotten about this, got to get my ballot together!
― Tuomas, Monday, 5 September 2016 06:28 (seven years ago) link
Oh yeah, I'll try not to forget to vote today. I didn't do as much listening as I intended but my ballot's a decent size I think. I enjoyed the Per Norgard symphonies Dominique, thanks.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 5 September 2016 12:38 (seven years ago) link
I voted.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 5 September 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link
Me too.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 12:34 (seven years ago) link
With a week left, I think I'm set on my #1.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 11 September 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link
This is not in my wheelhouse so I am looking forward to see what you guys come up with.
― The Wind Cries Miri (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 September 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
I somehow managed to get through life without listening to Scriabin's Prometheus until this poll.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
Only a couple of days left! I'm planning to put together my ballot tomorrow.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link
ugh i am having such a bad week. i gotta do this!!!
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link
I will do this! Have the ballot already, just need to submit.
― Dominique, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link
Anyone who hasn't voted and doesn't know the piece, please listen to Claude Vivier's "Lonely Child". Easily one of my all-time favourites. Remembering when listening to it right now.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
Is Ginastera's violin concerto actually nominated or is that an accidental copy and paste from dutilleux's? Because since this poll started I heard Ginastera's violin concerto and it fucking rules and I will vote it if it's not a typo
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
Whoa, good find. Looking at the noms thread, the Ginastera violin concerto was not nominated, Ginastera's Cello Concert no. 2 WAS nominated but is not on the list, and 'L'arbre des songes' is actually Dutilleux's violin concerto. I will accept votes for all three pieces.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
Is it possible to sort of tier my ballot so that group 1 (super faves) all get X points, group 2 (faves) all get Y points, group 3 (fonds) all get Z points?
I'm not gonna finish if I have to rank 1 to 100 and I don't want to do total unranked...
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link
You can do a mixed ballot so that some are ranked and some are unranked. Select "mixed" and leave a black space between the ranked and unranked portions.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link
do i have to number the ranked ones or is the order taken as given
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
It is taken as given, as far as I know. Will double-check but assume yes.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
And I just listened to Ginastera's second cello concerto for the first time: wow!
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
yeah he is a powerhouse
check out his Bomarzo opera and the vln cto and harp cto
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link
Threw together an unranked ballot & voted, 1 vote per composer with a few notable exceptions, did v. little listening beforehand, sorry.
― Jeff W, Friday, 16 September 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
Also listening to Ginastera cello concerto now, and yeah this is awesome! Almost spectral
― Dominique, Friday, 16 September 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link
Basically he started out folk-modernist and got more avant-gardist as he got older
besides the ones I mentioned also do not miss Cantata Para America Magica (why didn't I nominate that???)
Sund4r -- I voted! My first 50 are ranked, second 50 are unranked. I had to kind of go into a frenzy to make these decisions...
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
You can do a mixed ballot so that some are ranked and some are unranked. Select "mixed" and leave a black space between the ranked and unranked portions.― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:24 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link
Black space = blank space, I assumed
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 September 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
D.C. al Voted
― Dominique, Saturday, 17 September 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link
After the first cut, I have 194 pieces left.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 September 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
Also, how did we forget the first two Penderecki string quartets??
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 September 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link
And I finally cast my own ballot.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 September 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
Did we really nominate that many Sibelius pieces and not "Finlandia"? I might not have voted for it anyway but it is a striking omission. I had a request to write that one in, which is totally fine. (Will accept any write-in votes, as long as seandalai is OK with it.)
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 September 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link
Finlandia is not terrible but it would be like my 8th favorite Sibelius tone poem
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 17 September 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
yeah, that's the kind of Sibelius that made me think I didn't like Sibelius for a long time
― Dominique, Saturday, 17 September 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
Ha, I don't actually like the piece, to be clear.:P I still wouldn't call myself a fan but, for sure, e.g. Tapiola did lead me to re-evaluate him.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 September 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link
sund4r pls listen to the pcs nominated in this poll! Plus pohjola's daughter which was a glaring oversight
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 17 September 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link
I forgot, Bruno Nicolai wrote the main theme though.
― Frobisher, Monday, 19 September 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link
Didn't I nominate The Thing, come to think of it? Or maybe for a few dollars more was my only ennio nom
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Monday, 19 September 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link
I think Lonely Child does for me what Gorecki's 3rd does for the world.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link
Two more days!
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link
Yikes. Forced myself to vote, even if the nom list is so formidable -- which is obv actually AWESOME in a cornucopia sense -- that my knowledge and ballot feel somewhat inadequate. :-)
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 22 September 2016 07:21 (seven years ago) link
oh man Kurt Atterberg was not nommed. There goes three symphonies I would have listed
― octobeard, Friday, 23 September 2016 07:36 (seven years ago) link
Huh, I didn't know of that composer at all. It's good to see more votes coming in. Last day to vote, everyone!
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 23 September 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link
Also not nominated but good to check out after the rollout: Simeon ten Holt's Canto Ostinato for four pianos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDCsOL2vBJc
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I really liked that one. Long but really enjoyable.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 23 September 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
Would anyone be up for helping out with a Spotify playlist for the final list? I think it would be widely appreciated.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link
I could, if I happen to be around at the same time that the rollout is happening. The 15 year poll all rolled out while I was out of the house.
― Tom Violence, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
I can definitely do it. I just got overwhelmed by the sheer enormity of the nominations list. Countdown list will be super easy by comparison.
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link
Frankly I trust Jon not Jon to pick the best recordings over my own random selections. :)
― Tom Violence, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link
Awesome. Thanks, Jon!
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 23 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link
Zero consensus on the #1 notated piece since 1890.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 September 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link
yeah the nominations list is impossible to build.
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
Did any piece get more than one #1?
― Tom Violence, Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
Nope. Two composers got two #1 votes each, but for different pieces in both cases.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
And they share a first name!
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
Claude or Gustav?
― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
Btw sund4r for communicating about playlist building & rollout, remove the Qs:
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― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
Ugh it redacted that. Just send me an ilxmail it goes to the same address. And incl your email in it
I have the final results and we should be able to start tomorrow. I'm thinking of going through 10 pieces per day out of the top 100. To warm you up, here are Pierre Boulez's top 10 pieces of the 20th century: http://www.wnyc.org/story/10-great-works-20th-century-pierre-boulezs-90th-birthday/
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 September 2016 02:38 (seven years ago) link
so you plan doing the rollout the next 10 days?
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 03:02 (seven years ago) link
This Boulez quote stuck out at me:
I don’t want to criticize my century, but the process of absorbing what is composed during this century is a very slow process, much too slow for me.
― Tom Violence, Sunday, 25 September 2016 04:13 (seven years ago) link
good list from Boulez, bit safe but yes feeling it
― door unlawful carnal knowledge (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 September 2016 09:43 (seven years ago) link
The rollout has started (and it's awesome!)
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 26 September 2016 07:37 (seven years ago) link
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