Your music's shite it keeps me Polling all night: OASIS (ILM artist poll 78) --- Voting open until Sunday August 21, 2016

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I agree, the Swamp Song transition to Champagne Supernova is great - but bumping it up to a "track" status kinda feels like faking a full LP's worth of material when you don't have it. It's forty seconds long and there are several rather long tracks on the album, so just making it part of Morning Glory wouldn't have been uncalled for.

I like "Hello" though! Even if some of that comes from Gary Glitter, I think it's an all right opener. It's got the right attitude and I think it's catchy enough. As far as setlists go... were they using it as an opener? If so, I could imagine it just getting replaced with other things in that role, but I really don't know much about live Oasis.

we're gonna live in spatula city (Doctor Casino), Friday, 5 August 2016 02:12 (seven years ago) link

Y'know, I don't think they ever did open with it! I think they'd normally open with 'The Swamp Song' and then go into 'Acquiesce', although if I remember, it was 'The Swamp Song' into 'Columbia' at Knebworth.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 5 August 2016 02:34 (seven years ago) link

I love 'Hey Now', it's the best example of the wall-of-guitars approach actually working.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 5 August 2016 06:05 (seven years ago) link

Listening to Be Here Now again now and thinking there's only really one song on there that I really, really dislike: 'The Girl In The Dirty Shirt'

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 5 August 2016 13:21 (seven years ago) link

TBF Thriller does have 'The Girl Is Mine'.
thinking this DBtT track will crack my list:
vhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiVJD10Bv7k

campreverb, Friday, 5 August 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link

I remember when I saw FLCL for the first time my initial thought was "Man, I love this music. It sounds like Japanese Oasis!". This was before I knew of the phrase "Power Pop".

MarkoP, Friday, 5 August 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link

spending time with morning glory today. i really enjoy "hello"! "roll with it" is garrrrrbaaaage

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 5 August 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

'Roll With It' is easily the weakest single from the album, and their weakest single up to that point. I still like it, though. 'Sunday Morning Call' ... now, that's garbage.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 5 August 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

turrican otm about noel's harmonies elevating "cast no shadow"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 5 August 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

I have loved me some O back in the day (it's Better People prob my favorite track) but I was sure everything that needed to be said about them has been said 15 years ago

calstars, Friday, 5 August 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

lol u guys only one song from Morning Glory was ahead of She's Electric and Cast No Shadow on my ballot

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 August 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

she's electric sucks

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 5 August 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

"The Girl Is Mine" is great! Certainly beats "Roll With It" as a first single.

we're gonna live in spatula city (Doctor Casino), Friday, 5 August 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

Anyone considering voting for 'Angel Child'?

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 5 August 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

I liked 'Roll With It' at the time (bought the cassingle too!). It's easily one of the weakest songs on WTSMG but I still prefer it to Country House (xposts).

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 5 August 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

fuck almost all of the morning glory and be here now b-sides are incredible

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 5 August 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

"going nowhere"!

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 5 August 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah, don't forget about 'Sad Song', which was a vinyl-only track on Definitely Maybe, which they never issued as a B-side...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5efXnQIBmc

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 5 August 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

it's on the deluxe edition of def maybes

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 5 August 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

Sadly, I can't really recommend the Blur pisstake 'Bonehead's Bank Holiday', which was the vinyl-only track on Morning Glory... heh!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 5 August 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

i listened to that one for the first time today and it's unbelievably stupid which makes it kinda...enjoyable

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 5 August 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

I think it's meant to be unbelievably stupid... Noel wrote it as kinda like a "Ringo" track for Bonehead to sing, but Bonehead decided to go out and have a couple of drinks with Liam first to steady his nerves. When they both got back, they were both too hammered to sing, so Noel ended up singing it but you can hear Bonehead and Liam in the background talking drunken gibberish.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 5 August 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

.. dont'cha knowwwww

Mark G, Friday, 5 August 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

i still like Bonehead's Bank Holiday.

the first few lines of verse 2 of Hey Now are the worst, least thought-out lyrics i've ever heard in my life, literally sounds like they were being made up on the spot as he was singing them, those aside it's in my Top 5 funnily enough.

piscesx, Friday, 5 August 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

i always liked the cough between Roll With It and Wonderwall which is part of neither of those songs in their single form, so it's an album-only bonus!

piscesx, Friday, 5 August 2016 23:55 (seven years ago) link

i, so far, have a handful of ballots, only one worst song ballot. maybe not a good idea, will see.

Bee OK, Saturday, 6 August 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

those are called (untitled), lol.

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Bee OK, Saturday, 6 August 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

this is turning out to be a fun experience, hope to go all out for this poll.

Bee OK, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:12 (seven years ago) link

i might be way sick of them by the end, haha.

Bee OK, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:12 (seven years ago) link

starting to see what mookieproof is talking about, i'm oblivious at at times.

Bee OK, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link

probably will never change, it's too late for me. ;-)

Bee OK, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:24 (seven years ago) link

a bit too much Gin tonight, i see

Bee OK, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:40 (seven years ago) link

i never vote in these things but listening to sad song for the first time since i was 16 has made me kinda excited to see the results of this poll.

dynamicinterface, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link

The lyrics to She's Electric are so terrible that sometimes I forget the song itself is not bad

Vinnie, Saturday, 6 August 2016 04:31 (seven years ago) link

Giving Morning Glory a listen now and... yeah, it's really not surprising at all why this album was what it was.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 6 August 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

imo it'd be an actual classic if "acquiesce," "underneath the sky," or "step out" were on it but the singles are all very good and it feels like an important album, i.e. less flimsy than it occasionally is

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 August 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

anyway i'm hanging out with be here now rn and wow, such digital distortion

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 August 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

There's no doubt that it would have been even better if some of the B-sides had been on it, but it didn't do too badly as it stands!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

For an album that sold over 20m copies worldwide and still gets cited as one of the best albums of the '90s, I'd say it already was an "actual" classic.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

i mean understand, i'm not an oasis fan, and i kinda think an album with "she's electric" and "roll with it" on it kinda marginally sucks. i get that it's a classic in the sense that it's anointed forever

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

i'm only halfway through and i feel like i've been listening to be here now for days

"my big mouth" is prob gonna make my ballot though, it's ridiculous

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

stunned that the two b-sides i've heard from be here now ("stay young" and "going nowhere," which are both on the masterplan) are imo maybe the two best oasis songs...ever? and yet this is the album from which they were cut. :|

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

'Stay Young' was bumped off the LP for 'Magic Pie', 'Going Nowhere' was recorded after the LP came out and was written before Definitely Maybe.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

There's probably four or five songs from Be Here Now that are going on my ballot - I won't say which ones!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Important reference material perhaps: Worst/most cringeworthy lyric on Oasis' 'Be Here Now'

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

ah i was wondering where "going nowhere" actually came from. "all around the world" was also really old by the time they recorded it right?

"stay young" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "magic pie," it's ridiculous

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, 'All Around The World' and 'Whatever' were written around the same time. I agree that 'Stay Young' is miles better than 'Magic Pie' ... 'Magic Pie' was written after the rest of the LP and Noel only stuck it on there because he sings a lead vocal on it. I won't be voting for 'Magic Pie', that's for sure.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

I can't believe 'I Hope, I Think, I Know' and 'It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)' weren't singles.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

The opening minute of "D'You Know What I Mean?" will never not sound cool to me though. I do get how people convinced themselves this was a great record day-one, it really announces itself as a massive thundering classic, and you can totally get steamrolled by a listen-through. You figure "wow, that was something! I don't really remember all the songs but that's how it goes with a first listen, after a few more spins I'll be singing them all in my head for weeks!"

In hindsight though, a 71-minute album with only twelve tracks, one of which is a "reprise," doesn't really bode well for Gallager's strengths as a songwriter or Oasis's skills as a band. They don't really "jam," so if that time gets taken up by instrumental sections it's going to really be a lot of overdubbed guitar-blanket stuff (which this band does well as part of an album's mix). If that time gets taken up with a bunch of repetitions of the choruses, then it's going to come down to whether you find "All Around The World"'s various bits catchy and interesting. I'm in the minority that does, but, boy is this ever a classic case of an album from a band poised to deliver a super-statement and the only thing they forgot was to leave time to write the songs. Gonna try and give it a full listen-through today though just in case it has some gems I overlooked when I wrote the whole thing off as an overheated headache-inducer.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

I can't believe 'I Hope, I Think, I Know' and 'It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)' weren't singles.

was impressed by both of these songs on the listen i just gave it, think the former might make my ballot

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link


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