Frank Ocean, 'Boys Don't Cry'

honestly dude should've never given any sort of release date

did he ever actually give a release date?

no, just the new york times iirc

i mean people were more or less leaving him alone to do the album on his own schedule for almost 3 years after Channel Orange before he put up a tumblr post in april of last year implying that it was coming out in july, which a FO rep confirmed to billboard. so yeah he set off all this stuff himself, even if the reaction has been ridiculous.

in all likelihood it is imminent because apple music (one assumes? hopes?) would not have shelled out the exclusivity agreement money plus the funding for this bizarro livestream without some reasonable assurance that it would come out sometime after the whole art project. but it'll come out at some entirely arbitrary moment.

yeah Frank Ocean would never take a large sum of money from a corporation and then just not deliver what he agreed to give them

http://pitchfork.com/news/54297-frank-ocean-to-chipotle-fuck-off/

from what i've heard apple expected to have the album by friday & is baffled/frustrated that he didn't deliver it

if he does Apple like he did Chipotle he truly is the new God

Jimmy Iovine frantically redialing Frank's number all morning.

yeah Frank Ocean would never take a large sum of money from a corporation and then just not deliver what he agreed to give them

http://pitchfork.com/news/54297-frank-ocean-to-chipotle-fuck-off/
--Best Beloved Trump-Pence (some dude)

a jingle for an ad campaign is, ah, substantially different from an album that (you'd think) he was going to make anyway, but w/e

but if he returns the check and is like fuck y'all, then there you go

i was joking, i don't think he's really gonna not deliver the album. just saying, Frank has a history of 'i play by my own rules' shenanigans.

so where is it

over there

go listen to Fantasia, people.

you mean franktasia

this is happening

http://boysdontcry.co/

A play-by-play for this is kind of hard because it's all a shapeless blur...

oh ffs frankie

actual music is playing

it sounds...pretty good?

I've been meaning to fuck with you on ILM

I'm watching the terminator

feel like frank would want it this way

there's some really good stuff in here but alas ilm is over the man another casualty of 2016 rip

idk I think I can wait until he's not drilling over playback

sometimes i'm not sure who ilm isn't over (except, inexplicably tbh, the 1975)

Be careful on that scaffolding, Frank!

"it" is on Apple Music now

Rolling Stone has confirmed that Endless is a different project from Boys Don't Cry, the singer's highly-anticipated follow-up to 2012's Channel Orange. Apple will release that album this weekend.

lol at the last track of this

lol @ how do I crop your new bitch out my vine

"Ugh, this sounds like James Blake or something." * Reads an article, finds out it was recorded with James Blake :( *

i'm enjoying endless a great deal. it's bleak and wintry and lonely, and frank is the fire that keeps you warm

does he build a bonfire out of that staircase

i hope he installs a guiderail to go along with it

It sounds OK. Got kind of a demo-y quality to it. Kind of like his spin on a JJ mixtape? There's a place for it but it's hard to get too excited knowing there's a (presumably) real album just around the corner.

that closing track though :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

The first of today's many annoyances: a certain publication named Frank Ocean a singer-songwriter and Jazmine Sullivan an "R&B performer."

I'm already seeing "brilliantly confounding" and "gorgeous mystery." I'm homicidal already.

i think the album's good but that's certainly a reach lol

i guess i'm halfway through this and dude doubled down on the aspects of him i found least interesting i.e. fragmentary songs tied together by a kind of "stream of consciousness" design. hope the "album" is meatier

this feels entirely useless to me outside the isley cover

the fake kraftwerk song at the end that i think is shaming me for having a phone, that one's fun

nm that's apparently a song by wolfgang tillmans

i thought using that song was a bit of a self-own on frank's part, but who knows

I'm already seeing "brilliantly confounding" and "gorgeous mystery." I'm homicidal already.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, August 19, 2016 12:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo that sort of overpraise was way too predictable to be mad at

the brilliantly confounding self-own

self-own = cell phone. hm

you used to call me on my self-own

The first of today's many annoyances: a certain publication named Frank Ocean a singer-songwriter and Jazmine Sullivan an "R&B performer."

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, August 19, 2016 11:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf these are derived from the artists, JS has always been comfortable being called R&B, FO hasn't

yes he transcends R&B

xp. might be wrong about the former, not the latter, lol

no it's ok i have very little reservation about praising frank ocean

probably young enough to count as a 'kid' here (i am 25, pretty sure i'm one of the youngest active posters?) and while channel orange was quite good, blonde was one of the most frustrating albums released last decade. it has plenty of fantastic moments, but it's also incredibly inconsistent and fragmented, a lot of what it's trying to do just doesn't work at all for me. and endless is just not very good. it's felt like the mythology around him has long outgrown the actual music

are you going to complain about ilm not liking say, the life of pablo or kids see ghosts enough too idk

no they're shit

endless is very good though

I did this podcast where we were talking about him and I listened for a couple weeks to both albums a lot and definitely "got" it in a new way that i hadn't before

though I guess I came away with the non-majority opinion that Channel Orange > Blonde but I liked both

it has a very "California" vibe that I'm a sucker for

My partner on the episode was a younger millennial and she talked about hearing Orange and getting really into him and then waiting on line at a special in store event for Blonde and feeling like that record was a really special thing in her life

which talking to her about it made me like it more in a way

blonde was a very important record for a lot of people my age, and i did eventually appreciate it, but as evidenced by my posts in this thread, it took a little time.

voodoo I hope you like frank ocean the correct amount

xps well you can make exactly the same case that it's just generational that ilm doesn't like tlop and ksg so if you want the frank sceptics to engage you should probably at least try to sell people on his merits rather than complaining about a generational divide

channel orange is >>> to me but it's also a top 5 record of the 2010s for me easy

i haven't put blonde on for a while... it's kind of a morose record, largely about isolation and disaffection... it's kind of a whole thing to put it on for me. i guess channel orange is about those things too but it has that sun dappled california feel and character driven songs so it's easier to just put on

voodoo I hope you like frank ocean the correct amount

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blonde, more like goldilocks

xpost jord that was it for me, like blonde seemed like a deeper record but I don't really want to be in that headspace compared to orange

xpost kanye is 43 I feel like ppl forget his age

43 year old 3 year old

loved ocean's prior work but blonde, even after multiple listens, is just a nonstarter for me.

Looks like no one really said anything about "DHL" when it was posted upthread, but the second half of that track is incredibly addictive, my favorite thing he's done in rap mode. Really seemed like a new album was coming soon coming soon, don't know what happened

I’m 50 and I still adore Blond, it was a very important record to me at the time, flaws and all. So impatient for the next one, which I thought was about to drop at the start of 2020.

frank ocean is the most overrated and overvalued pop singer in a long time.

and he's still able to manage at least two or three songs every album that are complete smashes. so idk.

i'm an old white man, btw.

you'd be mad to pull frank to bits. what is to criticize? coolest contemporary voice in music. his vocal alone is enough to warrant status. blonde, i can't think of a better full length from the last decade that's so of its time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qKP32GYiks

still think Nikes is not a good song tho

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RIP Pepsi

you'd be mad to pull frank to bits. what is to criticize? coolest contemporary voice in music. his vocal alone is enough to warrant status. blonde, i can't think of a better full length from the last decade that's so of its time.

RIP criticism

i mean cool, opinions, good, i wanna hear you tell me what's bad about it. it's deliberately fragmented, confused, emotional, delicate. aloof... it's a fine self-portrait. feels like an elliott smith record to me or something - i'd say that without the sample in there, too

The bloodline to singer-songwriter stuff is exactly what puts me off, actually, so otm.

or, as i like to say: one man's trash is another man's less smelly trash.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61fhqJRhbhL._SY355_.jpg

i rest my case.