xxpost I'm going to play The Shins as revenge
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 8 August 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
wincing the night away indeed
― imago, Monday, 8 August 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link
this is like that scene in garden state except the opposite
― imago, Monday, 8 August 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link
re: the OP, without a doubt: sMiLe
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 8 August 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
milk-eyed mender is my choice too. somewhat surprising that nme weren't all-in on kasabian from the get-go, stuck behind wimps like the concretes is no place for those bold lads to be
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 8 August 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
Surprised to see anyone mentioning From a Basement on the Hill. ES doesn't seem very popular on ILM. I had to cut off a kick of his music recently because it was making me too depressed. Like someone on here said years ago, I feel like there's no way out of his music. What an incredible guitar player, though. "Southern Belle" is a song I discovered on this most recent kick. "King's Crossing," too - probably the most soaring thing he ever did. FABOTH has a lot of his best songs, he was in peak form - "Twilight," "Let's Get Lost," "A Fond Farewell," "King's Crossing," "Little One," "Memory Lane," "Strung Out Again"... really the whole record. It's the only one by him that I can sit all the way through. All the others blend together and could lose a handful of songs. I don't know, listening to The Cure or Nirvana or The Smashing Pumpkins when I'm sad makes me happy. If you're basically happy at a particular point in your life, listening to ES is a bad idea.
― flappy bird, Monday, 8 August 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
Conversely, if you are basically unhappy, it can be the most restorative and sympathetic cave! I agree that every track on FaBOtH is more obviously distinct than on previous records and would definitely add Coast to Coast, Don't Go Down and A Distorted Reality to your appraisal. There are these little pockets of stillness seeded amongst such heavy, hazy weltschmerz...it is so perfectly cohesive. It is amazing that such confessional songwriting can never come across as trite or laboured.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 8 August 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link
secret machines
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 August 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link
What a seriously piss-poor list. That Gwen Stefani album (Hey, everyone-she discovered Harajuku nightlife!), U2, The Shins and the Beastie Boys' nadir (of course, Rolling Stone loved To the 5 Burroughs as well, making it their It's Hard)
― beamish13, Monday, 8 August 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link
xps Absolutely. Was in a different place a couple years ago. But his musicianship is stunning & fascinating always. Trying to learn "Southern Belle" is humbling.
― flappy bird, Monday, 8 August 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link
Would vote Smile but it seems kinda out of place here. I guess it's Gwen, though I think the Go! Team record would hold up if I went back to it.
― Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Monday, 8 August 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link
SMiLE. Not even a second thought.
― Austin, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link
this is a good list with plenty of good music on it
but i do like how cosmic slop keeps randomly popping back in to agree with himself
― qualx, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 02:00 (seven years ago) link
I would have thought the landfill era was at its worst when Strokes and Coldplay were influencing more bands (2001-2003)
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link
but this is the DREGS
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link
i'm biased because i was 15/16 and music was unfolding for me at the time
but you sound like you have your biases too to get so riled up about this list with plenty of good music on it
― qualx, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 02:51 (seven years ago) link
How you can bear to drag your rapidly ageing and decaying bodies through this discussion for what feels like the fiftieth time in the last decade is beyond me. I also don't get how Cosmic Slop still doesn't appear to understand what peak landfill was after all that time (a lot of this stuff is clearly John the Baptist to the Pigeon Detectives' Jesus although that Razorlight album is lurking menacingly).
Anyway, Showtime.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 07:17 (seven years ago) link
a grand don't come for free
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 08:11 (seven years ago) link
I probably haven't read an NME since 1993, have I missed anything?
― calzino, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 08:38 (seven years ago) link
This thread answers that question.
CS I know you meant no harm at all but please keep jokes about my personal relationships off ILX, I know I've been open about stuff in the past but a lot of things have happened since 2004. Not being pissy, just asking.
― the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 08:44 (seven years ago) link
Re 2007, no list with Holy Fuck on is the worst list.
xp to calzino, the mid-90s dance section featured intriguingly futuristic and alien-sounding descriptions of 12"s I would never, ever hear - I suppose I could now via the power of youtube, if I could remember what they were - but then so did the dance mags of the era which I probably should have been reading instead (and was, whenever enticed by free CDs etc) so, eh, I suppose you haven't missed anything, no.
For my money it did go off a cliff noticeably circa '96-'98 but then probably everyone who ever read it would claim that about the years they were 16-18 too, and that's another conversation we've surely had fifty times in the last decade.
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 09:07 (seven years ago) link
holy shit American Idiot is 12 years old, god I fuckin hated that album
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 12:53 (seven years ago) link
green day are repulsive
― imago, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 12:54 (seven years ago) link
there's lots of good stuff on this list imo, in the end I went for Kelis over Regina Spektor.
― soref, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
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thinking about stuff from 2004 that was vaguely in the NME's wheelhouse, does anyone else remember the Ella Guru album? they were from Liverpool, sounded a bit like Lambchop, got a lot of positive reviews but then seemed to disappear of the face of the earth. the main guy is on twitter an apparently released some new music last year: https://twitter.com/johncyates
― soref, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link
I really liked that Hope of the States album back then, I listened to it on a whim recently and I think it still just about holds up today... Or it might not, probably my nostalgia talking
― ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link
Weren't the Dears good? I haven't listened to them in a long time, but my memory is that that's a pretty decent album.
― Mercury 422 830 398, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link
Horrible, horrible list, hurts my ears to look at it. With the exception of maybe two or three albums I'd be perfectly fine if they all disappeared from time.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link
I was 17/18 at the time, so looking at that list I also instinctively go "yuck" feeling under an attack of ugly nostalgia (that's the best name I've got for the feeling) but really there's lots of good/okay stuff here. As we often say in other similar threads, it's just a boring list in an order that suggests bad or just dull taste. I don't look back on this music magazine/tv coverage era with any fondness.
The Dears album was pretty good, never heard anything else by them. Radio Dept album was decent. Interpol album was decent. Morrissey album is really poor, maybe 2 good songs on it but I deluded myself into thinking it was a good album. Tv On The Radio album is really good. Nick Cave album is good but I think it has one of his best songs on it. Elliott Smith seems to have dropped off in being a popular cult guy, but I liked some of his stuff. Brian Wilson album is amazing but now that the Beach Boys version is officially available, this Brian/Wondermints version is just a nice alternate. The Bees were pretty good, at best they had this sort of haunted carnival feeling, some of it was quite beautiful but one of their tracks got really annoying on a tv advert. I definitely heard the 22-20’s album but it wasn't very good and I barely remember it.
I'd still like to hear Secret Machines and Joanna Newsom.
6 bands I've never heard, the rest ranges dislike to mild appreciation.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link
"love is hell" has really knocked me out recently...
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link
"Anybody Wanna Take Me Home" was amazing but I never heard anything else.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link
besides that there is "this house is not for sale" which totally breaks my heart. the other songs are not as good but still quite decent.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link
i think 2000-2005 did irreparable damage to how i connect to contemporary music, trying to tell myself "house of jealous lovers" was a good song stole away a part of my soul
― no poke balls (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link
A bunch of names on here remind me very distinctly of my early experiences with ILM and just kind of scratching my head at a lot of the stuff that was championed.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
When "mash-ups" were the rage. Danger Mouse, oh god.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link
hah, ILM in general did have a thing for "mash-ups" which I didn't like much
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
Also for Scissor Sisters, The Streets, Dizzee Rascal, Franz Ferdinand, TVOTR, iirc. Actually TVOTR is really not bad at all, just never especially grabbed me.
During that era I used to feel like I would see either Tunde from TVOTR or Brian Chase from Yeah Yeah Yeahs at every single Brooklyn show I went to.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
i love mash ups and house of jealous lovers and hating landfill and all the other enjoyable aspects of 2004 absent from but nonetheless recalled by this list. surprised that killers album isn't higher, the stench of mr brightside lingered in every sticky-floored venue I visited that year. idk when the nme changed their line on animal collective but imo it only represents a lack of confidence on their part, they should have stuck to their guns and let the internet media kill them off with dignity. seeing banhart above newsom still good for a wry smile.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea-3sqOVsgI
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
Found the ILM Albums of 2004 list that I remember voting in.
The whole shebang:
492 Wylde Bunch Wylde Times at Washington High 1 1491 The Wowz Long Grain Rights 1 1490 The Prefects Amateur Wankers 1 1489 The Orb Bicycles and Tricycles 1 1488 Rachel Goswell Waves are Universal 1 1487 Q-Unique Vengeance is Mine 1 1486 Pantha du Prince Diamond Daze 1 1485 Mos Def The New Danger 1 1484 Lydia Lunch Smoke in the Shadows 1 1483 Les Savy Fav Inches 1 1482 Language of Flowers Songs About You 1 1481 Icarus I Tweet the Bird Electric 1 1480 Hot Chip Coming on Strong 1 1479 Fabienne Delsol No Time for Sorrows 1 1478 Dogs Die in Hot Cars Please Describe Yourself 1 1477 DJ Green Lantern New York State of Mind 1 1476 Dawn Upshaw Voices of Light 1 1475 Yoshida/Fugii Erans 2 1474 Xzibit Weapons of Mass Destruction 2 1473 TV on the Radio Desperate Youth, Bloodthirsty Babes 2 1472 Tony Touch The Peacemaker II 2 1471 The Paybacks Harder and Harder 2 1470 The Knife The Knife 2 1469 The Earlies Those Were the Earlies 2 1468 Sunn0))) White2 2 1467 Snow Patrol Final Straw 2 1466 Samara Lubelski In the Valley 2 1465 Remote Viewer You're Gonna Love Our Defeatist Attitude 2 1464 Philip Jeck 7 2 1463 Jamelia Thank You 2 1462 Estelle The 18th Day 2 1461 Doctor Mix and the Remix Wall of Noise 2 1460 Diplomats Diplomatic Immunity 2 2 1459 Deerhoof Milk Man 2 1458 Decibully City of Festivals 2 1457 Chromeo She's in Control 2 1456 Chris Liebing Stigmata Vol. 1 2 1455 Call and Response Winds Take No Shape 2 1454 Blonde Redhead Misery is a Butterfly 2 1453 Urlich Schnauss A Strangely Isolated Place 3 1452 Revolutionary Ensemble And Now… 3 1451 Prince Musicology 3 1450 Memphis I Dreamed We Fell Apart 3 1449 Mekons Punk Rock 3 1448 Matthew Shipp The Trio Plays Ware 3 1447 Massive Attack Danny the Dog OST 3 1446 Malmo FF Galerie Ganz Oben 3 1445 Joy Zipper American Whip 3 1444 JC Chasez Schizophrenia 3 1443 Francis Albert Machine Re-Unmelt My Heart 3 1442 Felix Kubin Matki Wandalki 3 1441 Diplo Favela on Blast 3 1440 Daby Toure Diam 3 1439 Carolyn Mark and the New Best Friends The Pros and Cons of Collaboration 3 1438 Various Artists Mad Guitar [Greensleves Rhythm Album #86] 4 1437 Trashcan Sinatras Weightlifting 4 1436 Total Science Audioworks 4 1435 The Drive-By Truckers The Dirty South 4 1434 Slum Village Detroit Deli 4 1433 Shystie Diamond in the Dirt 4 1432 Rapoon / Birds of Tin Monomyth par Avion 4 1431 Manual and Syntaks The Golden Sun 4 1430 Liars They Were Wrong, So We Drowned 4 1429 KD Lang Hymns of the 49th Parallel 4 1428 Jans Friebe Vorher Nachler Bilder 4 1427 Elf Power Walking with the Beggar Boys 4 1426 DILL WYHIWYG 4 1425 Ddamage Radio Ape 4 1424 Various Artists Parkspliced 5 1423 Two Lone Sowrdsmen The Double Gone Chapel 5 1422 The Thermals Fuckin' A 5 1421 The Legends Up Against the Legends 5 1420 Ratatat Ratatat 5 1419 R. Stevie Moore Conscientious Objector 5 1418 Omara Portuondo Flor de Amor 5 1417 Necks Drive By 5 1416 Michell McAdorey and Eric Chenaux Love Don’t Change 5 1415 Mastodon Leviathan 5 1414 Little Tempo Fire Blender 5 1413 Hiromi Brain 5 1413 Jack Rose Raag Manifestos 5 1411 Great Lake Swimmers Great Lake Swimmers 5 1410 Gabriel Anada Tai Nasha No Karosha 5 1409 Freeform Five Strangest Thigns 5 2408 Eagles of Death Metal Peace Love Death Metal 5 1407 DJ Dangermouse The Grey Album 5 1406 David Murray and the Gwo-Ka Masters Gwotet 5 1405 Cooper-Moore 5x7 Box 5 1404 Blockhead Music by Cavelight 5 1403 Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra Who is This America? 5 1402 Van Hunt Van Hunt 6 1401 Trembling Blue Stars The Seven Autumn Flowers 6 1400 Tower Recordings The Galaxies' Incredible Sexual Transmission Field Of… 6 1399 The Cure The Cure 6 1398 The Boredoms Seadrum / House of Sun 6 2397 The Black Keys Rubber Factory 6 1396 Slum Dunk Presents Funk Carioca 6 1395 Skygreen Leopards One Thousand Bird Ceremony 6 1394 Radio Dept. Pulling Our Weight 6 1393 Northern State All City 6 1392 Les Georges Leningrad Sur Les Traces de Black Eskimo 6 1391 Greensleeves Riddim Album Red Alert 6 1390 Eminem Eminem is Back 6 1389 Death From Above 1979 You're a Woman and I'm a Machine 6 1388 Cowboy Junkies One Soul Now 6 1387 Avril Lavigne Under My Skin 6 1386 Ash Meltdown 6 1385 Arthur Russell World of Echo 6 1384 Various Artists Life Styles: Compiled By Coldcut 7 1383 Up-Tight Five Psychedelic Pieces 7 1382 Theodore Unit 718 7 1381 The Good Life Album of the Year 7 1380 The Eightes Matchbox B-Line Disaster The Royal Society 7 1379 Teddybears Sthlm Fresh! 7 1378 Oxia 24 Heures 7 1377 Mei Lwun Presents Uno Records 7 1376 Keren Ann Not Going Anywhere 7 1375 Incredible String Band Nebulous Nearnesses 7 1374 Fonda 500 The Spectrumatronicalogical Sound of… 7 1373 Fancey Fancey 7 1372 Elliot Smith From a Basement on the Hill 7 2371 Charlie Robinson Good Times 7 1370 Bertine Zetlitz Rollerskating 7 1369 Various Artists Channel 3: A Collection of Output Recordings 8 1368 The Emperor Machine Aimee Tallulah is Hypnotized 8 1367 Sahara Hotnights Kiss and Tell 8 1366 Owsley The Hard Way 8 1365 Matthew Dear Backstroke 8 1364 Le Futur Pompiste Your Stories and Your Thoughts 8 1363 Lal Warm Belly High Power 8 1362 Hank & the Hank Collective How to Prosper in the Coming Bad Years 8 1361 Dominik Eulberg Flora and Fauna 8 1360 Cobra Killer 76/77 8 1359 Bumblebeez 81 Printz 8 1358 Arovane Lillies 8 1357 Antena Camino del Sol 8 1356 Aluminum Group MoreHappyness 8 1355 Vector Lovers Vector Lovers 9 1354 The Roots The Tipping Point 9 1353 The Hacker Reves Mecaniques 9 1352 The Eternals Rawr Machine 9 1351 The Earlies Here Come the Earlies 9 1350 Taylor Deupree January 9 1349 Stahls Bla Schlactplatte 9 1348 Saturday Looks Good to Me Every Night 9 1347 Ryan Adams Love is Hell 9 1346 Petey Pablo Still Writing in My Diary: 2nd Entry 9 1345 Ivan Smagghe Suck My Deck 9 1344 Diplo Florida 9 1343 Craig Taborn Junk Magic 9 1342 Closer Musik After Love 9 1341 Cesaria Evora Voz d'Amour 9 1340 Candi Staton Candi Staton 9 1339 Brandy Afrodisiac 9 2338 Blomefontain The Longer Now 9 1337 Arve Henriksen Chiaroscuro 9 1336 Various Artists Ragga! Ragga! Ragga! 2004 10 1335 Various Artists For Jumpers Only 10 1334 U2 How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb 10 1333 Tussle King Klang 10 1332 The Soft Pink Truth Do You Want New Wave or Do You Want the Soft Pink Truth? 10 1331 The Revolutionary Ensemble And Now… 10 1330 The Beautiful South Golddiggas, Headnodders and Pholk Singers 10 1329 Sons and Daughters Love the Cup 10 1328 Sixtoo Chewing on Glass & Other Miracle Cures 10 2327 Ratatat Remixes Mixtape Vol. 1 10 1326 Mission of Burma OnOffOn 10 1325 Linkin Park vs. Jay-Z Collision Course 10 1324 Lambchop Aw C'mon / No You C'mon 10 1323 Korekyojinn Arabesque 10 1322 Klee Jelängerjelieber 10 1321 July Skies The English Cold 10 1320 Gypsy Kings Roots 10 1319 Ely Guerra Hot & Sour, Sweet y Spicy 10 1318 Dom & Roland Chronology 10 1317 DJ Clever Troubled Waters 10 1316 Badly Drawn Boy One Plus One is One 10 1315 Azita Life on the Fly 10 1314 Zeena Parkins & Ikue Mori Phantom Orchard 11 1313 Various Artists Modern Wild Dub 11 1312 Triola Im Funftonarum 11 1311 Thomas Fehlmann Lowflow 11 1310 The Ike Reilley Assassination Sparkle in the Finish 11 1309 The Bees Free The Bees 11 2308 Tatsuya Nakatani Green Report 12 11 1307 Royce da 5'9" Death is Certain 11 1306 Raphael Saadiq As Ray Ray 11 1305 Radio Dept. Lesser Matters 11 1304 Popium Camp 11 1303 Organum Vacant Lights / Rara Avis 11 1302 Nels Cline Singers The Giant Pin 11 1301 Nancy Sinatra Nancy Sinatra 11 2300 Lucien-n-Luciano Blind Behaviour 11 2299 Le Dust Sucker Le Dust Sucker 11 1298 Juliana Hatfield In Exile Deo 11 1297 Drive-By Truckers Dirty South 11 1296 Cristina Doll in the Box 11 1295 Corduroy Utd Our Eira 11 1294 Califone Heroin King Blues 11 1293 Wadada Leo Smith Kabell Years 1971-1979 12 1292 Various Artists Run the Road 12 1291 Tinariwen Amassakoul 12 1290 Sagan Unseen Fortune 12 1289 Razorlight Up All Night 12 1288 Noxagt The Iron Point 12 1287 Non-Phixion The Green CD 12 1286 Miss Kittin I Com 12 2285 Marillion Marbles 12 1284 Kylie Minogue Body Language 12 1283 John Vanderslice Cellar Door 12 1282 Der Zyklus Biometry 12 1281 Dave Godin Deep Soul Treasures, Vol. 4 12 1280 Auburn Lull Cast from the Fountain 12 1279 Atreyu The Curse 12 1278 Aroah The Last Laugh 12 1277 50 Foot Wave 50 Foot Wave 12 1276 Wasteland October 13 1275 Usher Confessions 13 1274 The Libertines The Libertines 13 1273 The Dresden Dolls The Dresden Dolls 13 1272 The Boats Songs By the Sea 13 1271 Stern Leaving the Frantic 13 2270 Sightings Arrived in Gold 13 1269 R. Kelly Happy People 13 1268 Magma K.A. 13 1267 M83 Dead Cities, Red Seas and Lost Ghosts 13 1266 Les Mouches You're Worth More to Me than 1000 Christians 13 1265 Jake Fairley Touch Not the Cat 13 1264 Islaja Meritie 13 1263 Get Physical Second Anniversary Edition 13 1262 Dead Texan Dead Texan 13 1261 Chungking The Hungry Years 13 1260 Christina Milian It's About Time 13 2259 Alter Ego Transphormer 13 1258 Various Artists Kistune Midnight 14 1257 Toby Goodshank Safe Harbor 14 1256 To Rocco Rot Hotel Morgen 14 1255 The Organ Grab That Gun 14 1254 The Intelligence Boredom and Terror 14 1253 Plus/Minus You are Here 14 1252 Mitch Akiyama If Night is a Weed and Day Grows Less 14 1251 Matt Valentine + Erika Elder Ragas and Blues 14 1250 LSD-March Kanashimino Bishouen 14 1249 Kleptones A Night at the Hip-Hopera 14 1248 Janet Jackson Damita Jo 14 1247 Harper Lee All Things Can Be Mended 14 1246 Giant Sand Is All Over the Map 14 1245 DJ / Rupture vs. Mutamassik Shotgun Sessions 14 1244 Broken Social Scene Beehives 14 2243 Brainpool Junk - A Rock Opera 14 1242 Beauty Pill The Unsustainable Lifestyle 14 1241 Beastie Boys To the 5 Burroughs 14 1240 Various Artists Italo Disco - A Secret History 15 1239 Trembling Blue Stars Southern Skies Appear Brighter 15 1238 Travis Morrison Travistan 15 1237 Susie Ibarra Strange Liberaiton 15 1236 Richard Bartz Midnight Man 15 2235 Pan Sonic Kesto 15 2234 Oneida Nice: Splitting Peaches 15 1233 My Chemical Romance Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge 15 1232 Misc Crunch Time 15 1231 Luomo The Present Lover 15 1230 Klashenkoff The Sagas Of… 15 1229 King Cobb Steelie Destroy All Codes 15 1228 Kevin Drumm Impish Tyrant 15 1227 Jan-Mark Kaiser Bis Neunzhen 15 1226 James Yorkston Just Beyond the River 15 1225 Greg Davis Curling Pond Woods 15 1224 Graham Coxon Happiness in Magazines 15 1223 Death in Vegas Satan's Circus 15 1222 Daniela Mercury Carnaval Electronico 15 1221 Comets on Fire Blue Cathedral 15 2220 Clouddead Ten 15 1219 Camera Obscura Underachievers Please Try Harder 15 2218 Weird War If You Can't Beat 'em, Bite 'em 16 1217 Tilly and the Wall Wild Like Children 16 2216 The Troggs 20th Century Masters 16 1215 The Electric Tomato The Electric Tomato 16 1214 The Decemberists The Tain 16 1213 Spektrum Enter the Spektrum 16 1212 R.E.M. Around the Sun 16 2211 N.E.R.D. Fly or Die 16 2210 Midwest Product World Series of Love 16 1209 Kerrier District Kerrier District 16 1208 Keane Hopes and Fears 16 1207 Iron & Wine Our Endless Numbered Days 16 1206 Gift of Gab Fourth Dimensional Rocket Ships Going Up 16 1205 George Michael Patience 16 1204 DJ / Rupture Special Gunpowder 16 1203 Devandra Banhart Nino Rojo 16 1202 Dead Prez RBG: Revolutionary But Gangsta 16 1201 Chingo Bling The Tamale Kingpin 16 1200 Bonnie Prince Billy Pebbles and Ripples Tour EP 16 1199 Bettye Swan Bettye Swan 16 1198 Alicia Keys Diary of Alicia Keys 16 1197 Albert Ayler Holy Ghost 16 1196 Youssou n'Dor Egypt 17 1195 Various Artists Dreamweaver 17 1194 The Polyphonic Spree Together We're Heavy 17 2193 The Faint Wet from Birth 17 1192 Steve Earle The Revolution Starts Now 17 1191 Sondre Lerche Two-Way Monologue 17 1190 Paulina Rubio Pau-latina 17 2189 Mum Summer Make Good 17 1188 Mephista Entomological Reflections 17 1187 Mates of State All Day 17 1186 Maria Schnieder Orchestra Concert in the Garden 17 1185 Jon Brion I Heart Huckabees OST 17 1184 DPM Presents Street Grime Vocal Mix 17 1183 Beef Terminal The Isolationist 17 1182 Arthur Russell The World of Arthur Russell 17 1181 Apostle of Hustle Folkloric Feel 17 1180 Allison Moorer The Duel 17 1179 Tortoise It's All Around You 18 1178 The Alchemist 1st Infantry 18 1177 Talking Heads The Name of the Band is Talking Heads 18 1176 T.I. Urban Legend 18 2175 Sebastian Teller Politics 18 1174 Scorn List of Takers 18 1173 Matt Pond PA Emblems 18 1172 LMP Century of Song 18 1171 Jens Lenkman When I Said I Wanted to Be Your Dog 18 1170 Fred Anderson / Hamid Drake Back Together Again 18 1169 Finn Brothers Everyone is Here 18 1168 Cristina Sleep it Off 18 1167 The Divine Comedy Absent Friends 19 3166 RJD2 Since We Last Spoke 19 3165 Ricardo Villalobos The Au Harem d'Archimede 19 2164 Interpol Antics 19 4163 Yolanda Perez Aqua Me Tienes 20 1162 Whitey The Light at the End of the Tunnel is a Train 20 1161 TTC Batards Sensibles 20 1160 Tiger Baby Lost in You 20 1159 The Shins Chutes Too Narrow 20 1158 The Projects Let's Get Static 20 1157 Spymob Sitting Around Keeping Score 20 1156 Lloyd Banks The Hunger for More 20 1155 Laura Veirs Carbon Glacier 20 2154 Julian Bezten Waffy Town 20 1153 Holly Golightly Slowly But Surely 20 1152 Gravenhurst Flashlight Seasons 20 1151 Feist Let it Die 20 2150 Excepter KA 20 2149 Eminem Encore 20 2148 Destroyer Your Blues 20 2147 Bonnie Prince Billy Greatest Palace Music 20 1146 Black Heart Procession and Solbakken In the Fishtank 20 1145 All I See is Red Terrorists Have Cut the Power 20 1144 Alice Coltrane Translinear Light 20 1143 Trillville & Lil' Scrappy Kings of Crunk 21 2142 The Hives Tyrannosaurus Hives 21 2141 The Concretes The Concretes 21 2140 John Langford All the Fame of Lofty Deeds 21 2139 Infinite Lives Bush Meat 21 2138 Hot Snakes Audit in Progress 21 2137 Dani Siciliano Likes 21 2136 Charalambides Joy Shapes 21 2135 Lil' Jon & The Eastside Boys Crunk Juice 22 3134 Jim Guthrie Now More Than Ever 22 2133 Yellow Swans Bring the Neon War Home 23 2132 Various Artists Kompakt 100 23 4131 Tanya Stephens Gangsta Blues 23 2130 Utada Exodus 24 2129 The Walkmen Bows and Arrows 24 3128 The Secret Machines Now Here is Nowhere 24 2127 Surferrosa Shanghai My Heart 24 2126 Richard X Back to Mine 24 2125 Neko Case The Tigers Have Spoken 24 2124 Todd Edwards New Trend Sounds 2004 25 1 1123 The Brunettes Mars Loves Venus 25 1 1122 The Beta Band Heroes to Zeroes 25 1 1121 Sufjan Stevens Seven Swans 25 3120 Shannon Wright Over the Sun 25 1 1119 Raiders of the Lost Arp 4 25 1 1118 Pinback Summer in Abandon 25 2117 Patrick Wolf Lycanthropy 25 1 1116 Oneida Secret Wars 25 1 1115 Luna Rendezvous 25 1 1114 Leak Bros Waterworld 25 1 1113 High Contrast High Society 25 2112 Graham Smith Final Battle 25 1 1111 Explosions in the Sky The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place 25 1 1110 Cam'Ron Purple Haze 25 3109 Blood Brothers Crimes 25 1 1108 Birchville Cat Motel Beautiful Spark Triumph 25 1 1107 Bill Frisell Unspeakable 25 1 1106 Bersuit Vergabarat La Argentinidad al Palo 25 1 1105 Tiefeschwartz Misch Masch 26 2104 Saint Etienne Presents Mario's Café 26 2103 Loretta Lynn Van Lear Rose 26 2102 Ghost Hypnotic Underworld 26 2101 CocoRosie La Maison de Mon Reve 26 2100 Akufen Fabric 17 26 299 William Shatner Has Been 27 1 198 PJ Harvey Uh Huh Her 27 497 Optimo How to Kill the DJ Pt. 2 27 396 Devandra Banhart Rejoicing in the Hands 27 395 Rilo Kiley More Adventurous 28 294 Max Richter The Blue Notebook 28 393 Orbital The Blue Album 29 492 New Buffalo The Last Beautiful Day 29 291 The Blood Brothers Crimes 30 290 Various Artists Volga Select Presents - So Young But So Cold: Underground French Music 1977-1983 31 389 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds Abattoir Blues / The Lyre of Orpheus 31 488 Mouse on Mars Radical Connector 31 287 American Music Club Love Songs for Patriots 31 286 Masta Ace A Long Hot Summer 32 285 Lali Puna Faking the Books 32 284 Ciara Goodies 32 283 RTX Transmaniacon 33 382 Dungen Ta Det Lungt 33 381 David Caretta Kill Your Radio 33 280 Superpitcher Here Comes Love 34 379 Marz Wir Sind Hier 38 379 Scarlet's Well Dream Spider of the Laughing Horse 34 278 Oren Ambarchi Grapes from the Estates 34 477 !!! Louden Up Now 34 376 Various Artists Rio Baile Funk: Favela Booty Beats 36 475 Adem Homesongs 36 2 174 Hidden Cameras Mississauga Goddam 37 3 173 Green Day American Idiot 37 2 172 Electrelane The Power Out 37 371 A Girl Called Eddy A Girl Called Eddy 37 2 169 Saint Etienne The Trip 40 368 De La Soul The Grind Date 41 367 Tim Hecker Mirage 42 366 Espers Espers 42 365 Cee-Lo Cee-Lo Green is the Soul Machine 42 2 164 A.C. Newman The Slow Wonder 42 363 Wilco A Ghost is Born 43 562 Panda Bear Yong Prayer 45 361 Arthur Russell Calling Out of Context 45 3 160 Emma Bunton Free Me 46 459 Courtney Love America's Sweetheart 47 458 The Knife Deep Cuts 48 557 Michael Mayer Touch 49 556 Joanna Newsom The Milk-Eyed Mender 51 455 Gwen Stefani Love, Angel, Music, Baby 51 554 Of Montreal Satanic Panic in the Attic 52 353 The Magnetic Fields "I" 53 552 Stina Nordenstorm The World is Saved 56 451 Morgan Geist Unclassics 56 450 Nas Street's Disciple 56 549 Bjork Medulla 59 548 Modest Mouse Good News for People Who Love Bad News 60 547 Tom Waits Real Gone 60 446 Mountain Goats We Shall All Be Healed 61 745 Wolf Eyes Burned Mind 63 544 The Killers Hot Fuss 65 643 The Futureheads The Futureheads 66 642 Trick Daddy Thug Matrimony 66 4 141 United State of Electronica United State of Electronica 68 6 140 Stereolab Margarine Eclipse 69 6 139 Teedra Moses Complex Simplicity 69 738 Nellie McKay Get Away from Me 70 637 Ada Blondie 71 636 Stars Set Yourself on Fire 71 4 235 Morrissey You Are the Quarry 73 734 The Delgadoes Universal Audio 74 5 133 Bark Psychosis Codename: Dustsucker 78 632 The Hold Steady Almost Killed Me 79 5 131 Mylo Destroy Rock n' Roll 81 730 Wiley Treading on Thin Ice 81 7 129 Sonic Youth Sonic Nurse 83 728 Gretchen Wilson Here for the Party 88 627 Scissor Sisters Scissor Sisters 95 1026 Ted Leo and the Pharmacists Shake the Sheets 96 725 Big & Rich Horse of a Different Color 97 724 Devin the Dude To tha X-Treme 98 723 Franz Ferdinand Franz Ferdinand 99 1222 Fennesz Venice 106 8 121 Xiu Xiu Fabulous Muscles 111 8 120 Felix da Housecat Devin Dazzle and the Neon Fever 114 1019 Animal Collective Sung Tongs 116 1018 Fiery Furnaces Blueberry Boat 118 9 217 Erlend Oye DJ Kicks 121 816 The Go! Team Thunder Lightning Strike 122 1015 Girls Aloud What Will the Neighbours Say? 132 8 214 Cut Copy Bright Like Neon Love 136 10 313 Air Talkie Walkie 138 13 112 Phoenix Alphabetical 141 1211 Madvillain Madvillainy 145 1110 The Arcade Fire Funeral 146 13 19 Various Artists DFA Compilation #2 162 158 M.I.A. vs. Diplo Piracy Funds Terrorism 182 167 Ghostface Killah The Pretty Toney Album 188 15 16 Dizzee Rascal Showtime 230 18 15 Brian Wilson SMiLE 251 17 54 Junior Boys Last Exit 301 23 43 Annie Anniemal 312 21 22 The Streets A Grand Don't Come for Free 321 22 31 Kanye West College Dropout 342 23 5
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link
the rollout was a top 50 back in those days
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
that list makes 2004 look quite a bit less shit
― a simba man (Will M.), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link
omg i bought that nellie mckay
― no poke balls (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
I think my #1 that year was Ghost - Hypnotic Underworld.
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link
Or Isis - Oceanic.
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link
agree that list is substantially less terrible. Although lol @ the Streets @ #2 and at MIA/Diplo.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link
El-P album from 2007 stands like a colossus above everything else on that list
I remember being really disappointed by this after loving Fantastic Damage. Mind you, I'm lukewarm on Run the Jewels too.
Pleasantly surprised to see The Shins in the '07 list as well, never knew the NME ever cared about them.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
Was El-P derided as "backpacker" or "corny underground fuxor" or whatever they called it on ILM? I think it holds up way better than The Streets or Dizzee Rascal
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link
What ever happened to 'Shroomadelica?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
El-p was in Company Flow who are like the Beatles of "corny backpacker" or w/e so yeah
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 23:04 (seven years ago) link
I take it they realized nobody gave a shit about no-name British indie bands and stopped hyping them around 2010 or so?
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 20 August 2016 12:40 (seven years ago) link
Peak landfill was surely 2006-2007?The Fratellis, The Pigeon Detectives, Kate Nash, The Wombats, The View, Reverend and the Makers, Joe Lean & The Jing Jang Jong etc.― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 19 August 2016 16:45 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The Fratellis, The Pigeon Detectives, Kate Nash, The Wombats, The View, Reverend and the Makers, Joe Lean & The Jing Jang Jong etc.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 19 August 2016 16:45 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yupI'd count Ordinary Boys too but they're in this pollPoor the Dears, they were ok iirc
― kinder, Saturday, 20 August 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
I think you meant to say: poor dears
― the enigma of dagmar krause (wins), Saturday, 20 August 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link
I take it they realized nobody gave a shit about no-name British indie bands and stopped hyping them around 2010 or so?― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Basically, a synthpop revival happened.
But I'm not surprised at all that alternative rock/"guitar music" or whatever you want to call it basically died in the UK circa 2007-2008, because by that point record companies were just signing shit bands in large quantities. If the bands were all putting out records of the calibre of Silent Alarm or Franz Ferdinand or A Certain Trigger, then it wouldn't be a problem, but they just weren't. They weren't good enough. It was just an oversaturation of drivel and people naturally got fed up. It seemed like most of the bands involved in that wave of 2002-2005 were struggling to follow-up their debut records, CD's were out on their arse, and record companies got desperate.
There's a whole arc to that last era of UK alternative rock/"guitar music" which begins with The Libertines' Up The Bracket in 2002, peaks around 2004-2005, and ends dying on its arse with Scouting For Girls, The Pigeon Detectives and the fucking Hoosiers.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 20 August 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link
Wasn't the synthpop revival already there in the early 00s?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 August 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
It was a bit of a slow-build throughout the decade. I guess at the very beginning of the decade there was Ladytron and Mesh, later joined by Client and The Knife by '03 (as well as Goldfrapp in their Black Cherry-era) ... but by '09 synthpop was back in a way it hadn't been for long, long time.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 20 August 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
seem to recall the ordinary boys (and the killers too) were somewhat derided by srs ~guitar music~ types for being a bit too pop, a critical tendency which had signficantly diminished by the landfill era, so i guess that makes the ordinary boys proto-landfill
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 20 August 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link
and the guy from the ordinary boys went on big brother or some other shitty tv show like that.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 20 August 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
he was on the celebrity version of that channel 4 First Dates show the other week! apparently he now writes songs for Cher and Olly Murs
― soref, Saturday, 20 August 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
Gavin & Stacey seemed to help the career of landfill indie bands. They were always being played on it
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 20 August 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, Preston was on Celebrity Big Brother. The thing was, at the time that he was on Celebrity Big Brother I had not heard one single note of The Ordinary Boys' music. I don't recall any Ordinary Boys tracks being played on nights out, and I don't remember their videos really getting any airplay on MTV2 or whatever. I don't remember much about them, apart from seeing their CD in a rack in a record shop while I was buying something else. I always assumed that Preston having to go on Celebrity Big Brother meant he'd either do anything for five minutes of fame or his band was wank, therefore I needn't bother. When I finally heard an Ordinary Boys track many, many years later, it turned out I was right on both counts. I hadn't missed anything. If Preston hadn't gone on Celebrity Big Brother, his band would have been so incredibly easy to ignore.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 20 August 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
The Ordinary Boys had some airplay & hits before CBB . They supported Paul Weller before CBB.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 20 August 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, but they were being 'shown the door' pretty much, but "Boys will be boys" got back in the chart while he was in, and they got a bit longer to live.
― Mark G, Saturday, 20 August 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
was that a cover of the hit by 'A Bunch Of Wally's' ? ;)
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 20 August 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link
I since found out that The Ordinary Boys were one of those bands that deliberately changed their name/sound/image in order to jump on the bandwagon. They were a hardcore band called Next In Line beforehand.
See also: The Bravery.See also also: Kaiser Chiefs (formerly Parva)
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 20 August 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
Also "Modern Romance", three style changes at least.
― Mark G, Saturday, 20 August 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
See also also: Kill The Arcade/Wolf Am I/Brother/Viva Brother/Lovelife
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 20 August 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
I think a lot of britpop bands had started off in another life too. Like Travis and that Scottish band who did that terrible "smile" song that was a huge hit but started off as a grunge band.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 20 August 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
Morrissey was a supporter of The Ordinary Boys for a while (they were named after one of his songs), put them on a compilation he made but after Big Brother he seemed to change his mind.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 August 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link
Benchmark set in very first episode
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007j8w4/segments
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link
Landfill comedy with landfill actors
― you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 09:23 (seven years ago) link