MAKE IT POLL: ILX Star Trek nominations thread at last! VOTING ENDS 2016/09/09

I would vote in this poll, but I would only vote for the "Original" episodes, and the films at a stretch.

And, most of these I've not seen since 1968 or thereabouts.

My top two would be the Time travel/Joan Collins one, and "Mudds Women" probably.

Joan Collins one is "City on the Edge of Forever" and is just ok imo

Can I vote just to put all my points into "Darmok"?

that's def my highest tng ep.

"Amok Time" a #1 contender for Vulcan horniness, presided over by Peter Lorre's first wife

"city on the edge of forever" is hugely overrated i think, slow and schmaltzy, plus afaict the point of it is that if there's a really important war on (they pretend they're talking about ww2, but uh) it's best to kill pacifists? spock's outfits are funny tho

"spock's brain" is camp, essential in its way but not recommended in the earnest way i recommend most of this.

"for the world is hollow and i have touched the sky" is downhill from its title imo, but that's a big hill.

killing pacifists is standard liberal palaver, if you've been following social media this year

tho Ellison complained about his script as aired

why would i follow social media this year

Ellison complains about everything fwiw

"amok time" def great -- the most important kirk/spock bropisode (the smile), but also some great fantasy set design and space ritual. features the first appearance iirc of the lil vulcan meditation chamber in spock's otherwise federation-issue quarters which i think is so cool.

ellison later republished the original script of "city" w/ this hilarious cover:

http://harlanellison.com/review/covers/cvforever.jpg

i have no mouth and i must lol

Should we do a side poll for 'best Beastie Boys song in a movie reboot installment'?

share mark's fondness for "mudd's women" tho i like "i, mudd" a lot more. mudd btw would be #1 on my list of villains to resurrect if given charge of a star trek movie so be thankful there are people w worse ideas than jj.

i have no mouth and i must lol

lmao

btw i read the ellison "city" book when i was like 15 and remember very little about it other than the rather amazing fact that gene roddenberry went around for years (falsely) telling ppl that the reason they rejected ellison's original draft is that he had "scotty dealing drugs on the enterprise"

haha i just went thru the wiki section about the teleplay and it's... convoluted. much rancor over a proposed plot device involving mccoy injecting himself w dangerous drugs as well. as far as i can tell tho the distinct fuck-the-hippies vibe is ellison's.

(it's not that strident, kirk abandons joan collins w regret and admiration, etc, but idk it still feels nixonian to me. also not sure what exactly happens w/r/t pearl harbor in the joan collins lives timeline. usa turns the other cheek i guess.)

Ellison there looks like Michael Dunn in "Plato's Stepchildren"

Jeffrey Tambor IS Harry Mudd

i did always wonder why they didn't just take joan collins back to the future w/ them, but maybe that wasn't an option w/ that particular time machine

her absence from 1930 Chicago (or was it NY?) might've also caused the Nazis to win

idk if i like any episode that takes place on earth. spock peering through the goggles at a backlot set and saying "strange, captain -- it bears a surprising resemblance to mid-20th-century earth" -- that's fine. the planet of warners gangsters is fine. just as long as it's not earth. even star trek iv is working at a huge disadvantage w me.

IDW recently adapted Ellison's teleplay for a 5-ish series:

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/cotef.jpg

idk if i like any episode that takes place on earth

the only good one is the Gary 7/Terri Gar one imo

DS9 had the best earth episodes ("Past Tense" and "Homefront"/"Paradise Lost")

No way, this was best DS9 earth episode.
http://i.imgur.com/zbHnqYS.jpg

you know that was supposed to be a pilot for a series, right Shakey? honestly, would you have watched that show?

!!!

In 2008, IDW Publishing launched an Assignment: Earth five-issue comic book series written and drawn by John Byrne. The stories show the characters' lives from 1968 up to 1974, including Seven and Roberta's peripheral involvement in the events of a prior episode, "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" (occurring before "Assignment: Earth" for the Enterprise crew, but after for Seven and Roberta), and an epilogue set in 2008 depicts an annual reunion between Roberta and Isis (in her humanoid guise) at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial to honor a friend who was killed in that conflict. The characters appear also in 2010 in issues #3 and #4 of Star Trek: Leonard McCoy Frontier Doctor.

Author Greg Cox has included Gary Seven and Roberta in three of his Star Trek novels, Assignment: Eternity and the two-part novel, The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh. In the latter two novels Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln go on to eventually stop Khan Noonien Singh and his fellow genetically engineered humans from taking over the planet.

I doubt I would've watched the show but I like this bizarre mysterious character dropped into the Trek universe, it works well

mudd's women was one of the three stories roddenberry pitched for the star trek pilot. he was using the fantastic allegorical power of sci-fi to tell the story of a pimp who lives in a cave.

even star trek iv is working at a huge disadvantage w me.

"Don't leave him at the mercy of twentieth century medicine" all time win.

I've only read a couple novels, neither of which were the one OL mentioned.

How Much For Just The Planet is indeed great, but John M. Ford's other Trek novel, The Final Reflection, is far more serious-Trek for people that like that.

Already got a ballot!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CplEsG1W8AQwG3e.jpg

This is v. exciting, thanks Leee!

I heart TNG, but I've hardly watched any Enterprise, DS9 or Voyager. Always happy to get TOS recommends - I remember watching the whole series on BBC2 in the early nineties but I can't remember much except that The Menagerie seemed like the most interminable thing ever to a 13-year-old.

Recently watched the remastered Doomsday Machine on Netflix and that is fucking bonkers good.

I'm ambivalent about the CGI inserts but the remastered interior scenes on TOS are just fucking beautiful to look at.

CGI remastering is a tragedy of Lucasian proportions.

It's pretty seamless (and often an improvement) on TNG, but the CGI ship on the original series looks wack.

(I believe the CGI effects shots were a necessary result of remastering, rather than Lucas-style "improvements". But some of them are pretty shit-looking nonetheless.)

And, that said, the Doomsday Machine space dong on the remaster looks fucking groovy.

Sharpening up the picture is one thing, but adding effects shots is totally misguided. Better to let these things remain of their time. Part of the fun of TOS is going back to the 60s.

Otm i hate that shit. Glad i have the og dvd sets

I would agree but I love this shot too much

http://67.media.tumblr.com/7d4fb230cb1c40d6d39b363a6543ed51/tumblr_nw8gm7vPdY1ufg9h8o1_1280.png

I was referring to TOS

voted!

Received! BTW I'm almost certainly going to extend the deadline at least one month just to give myself time to finish TOS.

maybe I will have re-watched all of TNG by then

probably not though - may just revisit my favorite TNG villain episodes ie, the Borg, Lore, and Q

I think it's time for a DS9 rewatch.

i recommend skipping season 1 other than the first episode and "Progress" and "Duet", it's a whole lot of excitement-killing nothingness otherwise